Yates vs. Yates

Aug 2, 2017|

Clinton Yates & Sean Farnham talked about Colin Kaepernick and Ray Lewis' comments about him and LaVar Ball. Plus, they talked with Stephen A. Smith & Will Cain

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Behind a milestone moment for just tell portals once that your particular remember OK I hope it's good I hope so it's little like I'm kind of counting on you even allow me ways of doing a great job of voter McFarland I'm here. Cindy dean Billy oil market that reference later or is it about the residents are all yes appear on its opens our performance on its latest. On the way out of flowers dot com two feet at its which handles. As Sean Farnham which company it. Vary vary straight forward ides or that so we medi zone last night for the first time you are on the West Coast time yet be clear and let the people don't know who you walk the laptop right here promises for real 1 in the morning a so I'm doing great right now I'm usually up I've got three kids I was admired it for fifty years of working media via covering college basketball mainly on Super Tuesday were with a great joke tacit torque okay and of course Brent my birth of a 250 and I was 258 it took three games working with the enemy was like I'm Donna mango Paisley and golden Vegas. And be before that the great brand wrestler so it's it's it's been a good run a college basketball but. Did radio for a long time before. I came via Vienna excited to be here today with you lots to talk about unity about August and you think about on what it what are really diving into. Obvious the NFL is starting to take over. But. There's a lot of things going on in sports at the uncharacteristically. For this time a year. So easily did about school and I will confront if we have regular hoop for nearly complete New Zealand got some nuggets on album but. Happy it's here I'm happy to be here this off. I. Christian Vasquez and his first career walk off homer and a Red Sox defeated the tribe swelled to ten stocks rallied to win despite striking out. With two outs in the bottom of the ninth trailing by one from alliance. Vasquez would never had a chance to win the batter immediately before him Mitch Moreland had reached first on a wild pitch after striking out the last team to go on to win after striking out what's really with two outs in the ninth. Or later was the twins on July 31 2003 against those the game also feature would could be the case. Of the year from Cleveland doesn't Jackson who flipped over the ball and to make an incredible grab you know magazine this isn't. The good grab on to aimed at like. At some point that becomes dangerous in a school is that looks -- of that and have a different way up to intimate that Internet OK but it happens every base a lot of times and the ball gets it down foul territory that's who do we do we say today that's dangerous as well should be put up nets and fences all the way around I sort of feel like you have a choice where it's in foul territory that the he has a choice weather's gonna go for about an -- if he doesn't go forward it's a home run if he does go forward it works out great. It's a good point the Dodgers moved to 75 and 31032. Win over the Braves. The third team to reach reach 75 wins in a 106 decisions or fewer in the last seven years throwing in 98 yankees were 75 to seven and ends into 2001. Seven found its way not the fastest the Dodgers have every semifinal wins in administered as your voice and no I have a giant fan I just happen live in Los Angeles but I will tell you this everybody in LA this is fine you can brought all the numbers you want right now. But if they don't win the World Series. They really don't care I mean they've won the division consistently but they've got to get to the World Series and went marked -- edit the other day on B baseball tonight trade specialist at its World Series of possibly think of you don't respect I think it's U coach they needed help in their rotation. They got its and when you look at some of the problems that the nationals are having. Serve double play this problem with the attic. Longoria became the second player in razor asserted for the cycle in their six or win over the asterisk. Ask rose joining BJ Upton. Some on Melvin these days in 2009 against the Yankees those of the last two in visible player hitting for the cycle against the team. With the best win percentage in the hailed at a total realized that. Asteroid Astros doesn't really matter they've been a great baseball team all season long opt out at the data and make more moves obviously inside the clubhouse they've been talking about that. I think the Astros are going to be just fine if you're Roger congratulations to Longoria I went to minor league game the other day I'll have the cycle is part. You buried the lead with a minor league game they now I've got relatives also likely that partly games are fun acute score. Is there and hit his first career home run but took himself out of the game after an inning on the mound the next spasm for my nationals scherzer is the first our interests at a home run and not last piece board lat last more than one inning Randy lurch. In 1979. Surgery is second in the bigs and Jerry points in one case to ordered one. If first in opponent batting average that's only once 69 and I'm not worried about that he's going to be OK I've I've at times slipped portly and had a and that the tools stiff so. Are you imagine as a pitcher taking yourself out about the best thing it'll last night was his wife's tweet. Saying that she's gonna have to continue to listen to this for the rest of her life that he actually hit a home run. The funny thing is is that scherzer is such an intense guy and delay. I feel like it next week for him is it different being that it is everybody like that this series in forgot it moves around that much just. To pitch you've seen him like soccer on about it he's he's series do what you gotta you gotta look easy at all at this point time it still is August. You've got all of September and in the playoffs still to come after that. Is there any reason to push it right now and say you know what I got a strained neck but I get on the day after on the mound I know bill and they district governor Edwin Jackson who's even. For every team in the big it seems like it only thirteen years though we're discouragement. I hope for my sixers are gets better. And honestly Jon Lester record is 2000 strike out and hit his first where homer in the cubs' 64 win over the Diamondbacks. He became the second pitcher in the modern air since nineteen hundreds you hit a home run in the game artists who does right now joining yes it does most. In next united topples all of that was that's very cool here from the cup. Dug it up there on the cubs again restarting the W here it comes I had lamented the full of cubs fans because I told the data and deserves the Bart meant as a class acts for grabs it yesterday on the show and out people who knew with that not all cubs fans if you ever find yourself saying not all anything that is probably. This. Are. Mike in my X is in about resident Sarah spears I guess those murders on behalf field Yates my cousin at 630 Herm Edwards is coming on at 730 will cain's gonna be 88. Stephen A Smith is at nine and Jody averages a friend at 930. All phone guess owners themselves are performance on if you missed any of those guys it was all four hours of Mike and Mike on demand. And yet. So. Colin Capra. Baltimore is game I don't wanna say flirting with him but it certainly discussed the possibility of bringing tournament Joseph Flacco. Starting quarterback there has been injured. And John are ball. As discussed openly whether or not he wants. To bring him one. Steve the shoddy the owner has set as many egos talked to a fan form over the weekend it's it looked. This is an embrace being we're talk analyze different people they console to great Lewis just so American knows what are your talked earlier about sort of how the situation has developed I was over the last three months over the last month. And we're not going all it back to last year you go wherever you like about it I'm assuming the loyal listeners of this show have her auto color etc. calling governor don't hold soaks your listeners sports talk radio long would assume that you might have heard this once or twice before. Look I I think that. When it was in May. Some meals and OK I'm I'm kind of like a wait and see what's gonna happen here. That there was going to be a team I really thought would probably sign Colin before now. I'm now a treat cancer and actually opened now you have some quarterback he'd injuries you have won Indianapolis you have one. Obvious he is in Baltimore and on its malls. Commonsensical because of Greg Roman as former often coordinator being there from our utters the Harbaugh family they don't acutely howdy used and how does it work how can he make him successful amateur team successful. A reason most natural fit. I think that we have to get to a point where you look at this in two very different ways that you look at it one is okay. Ownership and maybe some people are worried and concerned about what transpired lab here and take him in the and how the public will react to that. I think we need to get over that personal OK okay. The secondary option is quarterback wise is he's the quarterback that you think can help your team win at the end of the day this is a business. At the end of the day the business is of winning in all professional sports you have to win so if he can help you win the game then. They yeah you gotta bring you mini feed if you don't think they're calling Kaplan it is going to help you win. Then yeah gold somewhere else and find somebody that you think is going to help you win but when you look at some of the names that have been sign. And some of their Reza may compared with mechanical cap literally blowing guys out of originally yes one could say. They're calling capita resonate is a lot better as solicitor were rivers Echostar Harbaugh had about what's actually signing. I mean I've douse governor George I mean I think. All that not just quarterbacks and we are looking to different position guys I was looking at guys last night on tape and that's that's fun for me that's exciting that's something that you love to do as a coach but. With with a course record of our situation our guys it's been so successful with a guy that I really liked personally. Had good conversations with his relationship obviously play from brother. You know he took him to come within five yards of where when and super ball as we all know so. That's been fun to talk to me it's known better and you know on the before receipt out plays out it's it's going to be a process here and she wrapped. That's a little weak as a brother broke out there five yards five yards by the noise those guys. When forty none of them by the way I'm still upset about the fun OK let's understand that America I want Farnham debt buyers about the cavern exaggerate I wanna those five yards and a one observable ferret out but what I do enjoy about this is that the ravens have at least come out and said. And probably more of football. This isn't just a matter whether or not the guy can win games the owners said. Not raise so it's now whatever but he made the point. That we understand what this means Baltimore is not any other city in America where it comes to Colin capita coming out the police brutality situation there is being on the front page of many newspapers in this country. Kaplan it comes there. They know they're dealing with a whole lot more than just got hold of clip organs hotline and they've got a guy who's going to be in the community they've got a guy going to be trying to be in the community. And they're gonna have a guy who potentially. A lot more people like. Then maybe even like Joseph Flacco whether their football fans or not. What is that a negative things when does that become a negative thing I mean look I don't think it is like here's here's the crazy thing about this is it easy you look at it it and this is a lead in the NFL where you know you read through the draft and guys all got drafted we all have a preview maggots. And we all you know reading up in the off the field issues off the field issues off the field issues off the field issues are listed on like almost everybody. Raft and somebody with an off the dovish right. His issue was that he wanted to voice. A complaint he wanted to voice and bring attention to an issue. Now you can agree or disagree with the way that he went about it he did not break any laws. He simply. Protested something that is about a weighs a right in this country to protest. Ed and put himself out there now. When you put yourself out there like that there are going to be people regardless of what your stance it is. They're gonna agree or disagree. And I think now when you look at the way this whole thing has has shaped up we spend more time talking about that than we do the quarterback. The play. A what does he bring. If you look at the time they have emphasis on particular last he's once he came as a starter is QBR wasn't very good. Com however his ability to run the football still was a leak use them leading rusher as a quarterback during that period of time where. And and I think. To me I go back to Kirk Morrison and the locker room which comes on after the morning wrote I made Alec that Lozada was all right I mean how is going on Sunday thing but. And lock her Kirk Morse and former NFL linebacker is said to when he broke down the film his concern with called cap and it was his ability to read the defense okay and two. For grass through the route so I don't sit in the film I'm not a linebacker out and play in the NFL. So I think there's two ways of looking at one is can your community handle. What's gonna happen with Paula capita comes to town from that standpoint which I think after having somebody we want Reese halftime we say we want athlete actually talk. And come out of their shell and stand for something the other half now and we say we don't re it's time we pick and choose. Well we pick and choose what we want them to talk about. You know like when when LeBron James. Came mountain and he gets involved socially we tend to be like oh no this is great this is great LeBron is making the states stand when the FB started. And you had Dwyane Wade out there with LeBron. And at tennis is a case that was a powerful moment very big moment yeah okay. Dowell that there's other times so what we don't we don't look at it one way and that's that's a better question where I think we need to stop projecting now. And that's when you sort have to project back in and see how you're doing. Mike the Mike is the embattled residents aren't you could save hundreds on her car business or recreational vehicle listeners from a local independent agent go to progressive.com. Today and that's progressive Clinton Yates on form filling in here on one Wednesday. This fragment is chairman of home headline because Ray Lewis to Colin cap predict your play speak for itself. Reverend ray decided he was gonna go super all local black man to make a video of him Bratton and his heart talk into the people. I only notice that I got millions of dudes my FaceBook featured relatives minded friends about it it is everyday and he said the football field as our sanctuary if you do nothing a young man. Get back on the football field and let your play speak for itself in what you do off the field don't live too many people though. Because they gonna judge you anyway no matter what you do no matter if it's good or bad. Imus. This is. Add it. Very claim it is stated to please argument from a guy who. Claims to be a man of god guys who had a second chance not only America but in this league to play the sports I understand where he's coming from. But to say this to me implies that Ray Lewis simply believes. That we are to be seen and heard the limits or something that is incorrect in it is hard. College averaged speaking up about any issue in America your police brutality be it. You know urban farming be it whatever it may be it's his right. As an American forget about football. It doesn't matter whether or not please in the NFL or not he is allowed to see what he likes or do what you like because those of the rights of sports in America saw what he did well in. That's what I when I read it and how much like yesterday out here I was I was taken back by it because. He's basically telling them shut up and play football. And exactly and that's not. That's not what we should be telling people we re should be able took pressure off like now it. It again. Culpepper it's gonna make the decisions he wants to make. If that affects his NFL career affects his NFL career that's his call. If you wanna let his play for speak for himself and then go off and another direction. And yet. Be involved actively in in any community or any cause that is deemed necessary for him than go ahead and do it be true to yourself. It that's that's a thing that we lose sometimes I think in life is just being simply true to yourself who are you. What do you want on a daily basis what are you wanna get out your day how do you want yourself to be seen. And the more that you do that the better if you start trying to hinder your own personal self. Because you think that others aren't gonna like who you war. Then you're a fraud and you're fraught. I totally agree I think that if the NFL really wanted to make a statement. About who they are as the league who they are as an accepting pleas and what they're. Trying to do in America. Colin government in Baltimore would be a great idea and considering some of the headlines that are camera coming out around that league this might be a way to actually step for Mike and Mike. ESPN radio ES PNC Clinton gates on farm animals was here's a little bit your basketball guy. You're West Coast guy. He amazed of -- congress on a parties are good but lights but he's all element of fun LeBron James in vetoes he said he didn't mean to mock him. You're in basketball circles out there what was the first reaction when you saw him at Harrison Barnes wedding with Ty re urban in the background. Yuck it up I think. I think it's just fun I think and you know I mean look. When you have cell phones this thing that when I talk to college kids now what you realize ever party you go to someone has a video device. Still frame can do whatever they want to date pitcher. I so what you just having fought like to me it's it's a nonissue powerful on enjoy it staff hit the ball straight this week I think that more than thing he's on the Web.Com tore with the sponsor exemption this week I'm more nervous for him for that. And I'll tell you watch. Have you were playing the pro am I do not play golf OK I like black men from the disc problem that. Again OK if you wanna peek and earlier I wanna pigeonhole your off I don't Israeli camp play golf that I out played off our debt I play golf. RK and I got invited to play in the regions tradition down in Birmingham Alabama. A year ago which is a senior tour event. And like you know I don't know what I cover the SEC for college basketball purity is yet they're gonna probably put me with some no name pro. A mere (%expletive) no they put me with two time US open champion legion. Collegiate incidents that our rights also I'm like OK Natali. When you realize that your program right. You're sitting there and now you play with somebody that actually people wanna watch. Now there's gonna actually be people lining the tee box especially at one maybe not normal some of the holes but on one. And I agree with that have said this earlier today he said he's most concerned just getting off the tee box on one. It is the most important thing you can possibly deal. I hit my first shot and actually went in the middle fairway so I was like. But it relaxed me for the rest of the day questions when you hit that first drive users wholesaler. The club and after that it was routine that's soulful blue and no hesitant and don't you wanna have to prove they're not approach you'll want a 100%. Elected. That's someone here all day fellas let's go. You know but in reality your mind and your heart elect. You've got to think for anybody on the first week I gimme that would have been probably the worst thing that's the worst are you positive shank. You drive it once that's my concern is he gets going on the Web.Com for today let's hear it's that bad this day about the LeBron. I was that in the you can buy this film is so I sort of video on newsroom blow up it's not something that. If you they're getting through the keel just that seems way cities are understand what I was doing. I've been since he'd post differs videos. I've loved it his name is he made a song. And maybe a lot of people wouldn't have known pretty popular just a posting the video soon he's got mean and advance. This is way too serious for me okay why is he like I Israel in the camera. Addressing this exhibit any other than awaiting video I'd he's making fun of a guy he knows and another guy he knows is letting this is still not a big deal it was actually hilarious. How did you not know that somebody would videotape or death curry for your at a wedding. Like that's that that's the headline to me out of all that is that obviously I didn't know that somebody was gonna. What do you mean you don't know I think that when you don't shot at the worsening filmed it. When you walk out of the house in the morning I'm pretty sure somebody's kid you walked on the street summons ravenous cellphone to take a picture of you because you're stuffed her after him a day especially if he's in the Bay Area or whatnot. Like me. He's one of the faces of the MBA he won the most recognizable athletes in the world. Did he not think somebody was going to take video of him doing something like this. I have to ask you this was your golf styles. Who whom whom do you most of approximate when it comes to how you bastard on the court. There there's a big deal in my world tour is that what guys Wear when it was sports has far more intimated the result I look like I looked like I can really play that's the important like I I don't know visor dire Capcom dot -- capped a tech I'm weren't somewhere in the cap white belt. If the pants a blue yes. If the pants a blue your goal wide belt no question. But because yet at the pop to yet and it flared through a I just got these new Nike shoes that are that are unbelievable well plugged there. The field Yates is joining us here as well. Were there merger of gangs tried really fancy appropriate drafting you screwed mine now I'm directing that sums. It up with their boys and. Look so what's this could be here here's Angela was placed on the pup list to begin training camp which gives teams the right. To keep that players they wanna use them on our but I want from the regular some pop list as well like that possibility. Remains. For now Andrew Luck is not. Practicing in full for the wood with the Indianapolis Colts but he has begun his throwing regiment. He's noncommittal on week one. On but the team has said they are going to lift him off the pup list before the regular season begins. I always turn back to this factor if the colts were seriously concerned. About Ian drew Lux. Availability. And viability as a starter to begin the season. They would have addressed their backup quarterback spot anymore significant way. Many people watched it Thursday night game last Thanksgiving got tools he stepped in free Andrew Luck against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Calling it an abomination to begin. Would be the nice thing ever said about an abomination it was that they would have more aggressively addressed or back up quarterback spot in my opinion. It but it the beard injury luck might miss significant time or even time at all this year. Our. It's time for America's they were game show. It's risen. Some may ask. So yeah ones who have opinions where one commonality in their name. My kids might precede sees. Verses yea it's. Three during the air person and describe that we are related people definitely yes app where you're back in one in the same league let us nearest exit like the movie back today were it Arnold Schwarzenegger and Dana Perino twins that Yates vs Yates and this is gonna hopefully. Clear up some of the Twitter issues the two of you have. First question is to Clinton. Where did quarterback. TJ Yates who won a playoff game with the Texans back in 2011. Played his college football he went soon. North Carolina Tar Heels today. Are you have a newborn a report seen as well what they had no odds of field what team is he currently on. TJ Yates is the best quarterback on the Buffalo Bills and I can get back to the second well who say they're mixed I'd say take your name in the other teams that he's played for. Other teams for TV eights include the Atlanta Falcons. O in. One more he missed one that we guarded even the first question he won a playoff game adamant when when is Texans are big. Yeah it's doing great we're off to a hot start here and he verses yea let's go back to you Clinton all right I'll former NFL running back Clinton. Portis rushed for 1530 yards in each of his first two seasons only with the Broncos he was traded before the start of his third season. Who was he treated for bonds the lay out loud stadium for Champ Bailey. I don't know that also pockets Champ Bailey played with my radio mate Dominic Foxworth. On the morning of Sunday night in the about about cubs on this it was well in Denver that's on that. I'd lets us it would Champ Bailey would build a field Champ Bailey was the seventh pick in the 1999. And a belt wrapped. Can you name the six players that were taken ahead of him in the financial draft I. No chance I know. Lindsay what was it again a couple of these. Is obviously really our question yeah question I've got a number it was first pick his first record in brown. That's Oz I have the draft years mixed up then it wasn't that abducting couches here at it was correct him counted out rush right over in Iraq from Kentucky but that would have been just who was the number one pick as some of the quarterbacks there who Philadelphia. 99. Don McNabb well. Time. The quarterback. Achilles Smith no problem. Colts and say it was a Edgerrin James spoke daughter Lucille. You maybe that in the eighty's I'm not really batters later our wide receiver fast is showed greater shorter. Toward big game hole they felt they got home. Ricky Williams who they traded the entire draft for that your right yes. Yes so August saints traded their entire draft to wire didn't know who did repeatedly gap it yes. All right let's go to number five Clinton this zero perhaps most famous athlete with field in their name our father son duo Cecil and Prince Fielder. So out of the two who hit the most home runs in a single season. Rule. I think. It was Cecil. And how much it was. 5151. Back in 1990 out of here that I guess French is I guess after a government that is that I have a busy market and I'm spent I knew was fifty something I could we are big they are doing and I today a key court mightily toward games that I go to mentally OK so bring his best was that it will be in 2007. Back to you field okay. Which of the two hit for a high your career average. A legal prints here. Again I think it's fifty shots I put the odds yes he's got the first day and writers like you know gonna try to be Celso was not exactly what we would call a wouldn't Cecil overseas and that's just nestled OK he was not a contact Terri was you know situated three by the way with prince's best. Cecil was 255 per. I'd lets your question number seven Clinton which of the two had the most career home runs. Field. And correct my guess again. I guess Dan I forgot it's Gil got career was cut short as a guy that's obvious there was doesn't out of Zagreb. Well you're wrong they both had the exact same amount of 300 and it may well see all hot joy that we could job by the I mean between friends maintenance. The runner out at his career cut short right field when we go to you know which of the two had the most runs batted in. Cecil because of the the prolonged career. Well France 1028. To one fouls and back and and that my friends is we call Yates. First it's very well place. I enjoyed that it's not any guys come up. Herman Edwards they steal that one who won there. Wait to tie the best avoided double gave it is my complex yet he had periods you know radio. Home isn't just a place. It's appealing. Whether you're at home to your business or online. HT helps keep you safe. With security system. Home automation yeah alarms and surveillance. So you can feel at home. Where every. Putting needs. Get that feeling. Well green or half. 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And and I had a good time this this is gone his move as I could have hoped might that was right you're pretty good I appreciate them joining us right now is studios he is an NFL analyst Herman Edwards. Given the streets are brought back straight talk wireless phones best networks no contracts. Coach I've talked a lot about Baltimore recently yes what are your thoughts on just sort of how this is developed where this has been from a football standpoint to an estimate as far as their quarterback which. Well they have to make decisions at the quarterback position effective Joseph Flacco right now seems to be up. Still not well enough to play rhyme mound struggled in camp we think about the situation with with cap. He's a guy that's familiar with the office coordinator he was with him and Sam Disco. Hit coaches can get all the information he needs. On his district of phone talked was broad. And then from there you you talk about a team last three or four years have not been in the playoffs but they they talked about being a dominant team again in the first thing they go out as. Through their draft picks out of forward would defense player so. Their minds is very simple become. Dumbed defense in and in office release are run the ball better and if you look at it captain nick he's a guy that can help you with the run game they know that they faced him in the suitable. Being they feared to most of his ability to get only did you run the ball so. He's a guy that's available it's puzzling that down. He hasn't gotten the job yet. Hopefully this might be Alanis. When you look at a quarterback situation you going to camp and obviously you've been in this position before. How much of like a Ryan mallet struggling right now even just in training camp early. Does that concern you. Well. Couple things come to mind. The defense playing better. I'm a billionaire and a lot of guys to the secondary right if he bought in free agents he drafted get ice. So that's like that's a good thing you know I mean sometimes you look at what's odd ball you know with as fans we were all. Well court backed a bunch interceptions. With that they're pretty good deal and that's what we'll save that which they what's quarterback I understand but. I actually when you look at the history Ryan. It's a concern he's you know he's a veteran guys been enough training camp teams in the system last year. On that's a concern. You know we we we know portals down in Jackson do this week who think five intercepts in practice and there was a big. Oh no and we view you get all but but you know practices one thing games another but but I still think their quarterback situation is is flew through them. We'll talk term hero on Mike and Mike Clinton is on foreign insulin and I said before that I think that the region's. To me this decision as far as getting pat doesn't need to go further than owner GM had coax what do you think about the fact that they've decided to hold the community even go so far asked former guy like Aubrey Louis. From the team who's come out and say all he needs to do with some political. Well this is an or it is a wise yes apple. Basically. It has been received just not a hit coach or GM sees his own decision and them. You know you can spin anyway once been on here's a young man that took aim and use of voice and voiceless. Now and and really. You know when you think about. How it affected people. Two different camps. We know that this is a team. It was assessing how team this is a league that we know that there are players that are playing in league and had transgressions that didn't meet up to code of ethics. Now but still have the opportunity to compete and play in the league. This guy has not. Now he basically pro tested nonviolent way. But basically didn't respect fly. It tells you a lot about America. And you know whether right or wrong or gift from what side you fall on it doesn't matter I know this. At he said in a situation now where. Basically it's owners' decision. It's not a coach's decision the stone dust don't put on the Coke because if if you're truly trying to compete. Every position you're trying to upgrade your rosters and every position. And Coke just what the best players as long as they conform to two obviously. The expectations of that organization. With that being said you think about a hundred quarterbacks were in camp. He's not 100. Given an opportunity compete for a while okay we can say the fans that are. Mad at him disgruntled. Jersey sales is what number 39 a so. You know we we can make excuses for and I did it on. I was there the night that the the Philadelphia Eagles signed Michael Vick. He was incarcerated and rightly so and I can remember being in Philadelphia doing the game and pre season when they called to the box is that it will sign Michael Vick. And when they said that. Cellphones would be. And so many people sale falls you know we get out whatever they would go and guard Michael Vick is goings on Philadelphia. So. We'll see where this goals. Hopefully this gaga an opportunity this would be a good landing spot for him as well as an organization as well. Moving off call capita per second Vontae is perfect this. Obviously he's had a few yes 800000 dollars with a finds over the course of his career for unsportsmanlike conduct. Yeah. Yes straight eight camp goes low. On Bernard in a non contact drill when Bernard is coming on a Yelp. As a coach how would you handle this situation how would you try to get through this this man who seemingly no one can get through to well is. It's an emotional game in in certain guys that. Have problems with quote control their emotions especially. When it comes football. It's it's competitive violence. With the root within the framework of rules we know that chrome. Vontae is is the guys of veteran do you expect more out of him no I'm Omar personally and moral calling to decide to say look we can't have this. You never have the intention to injure players that that's never the intent of players to be quite honest. That time he gets a little. Outsider Romo of playing within the framework of what is called you know legal football right ended today I mean that you always look I played my whole life I gave it you know and you never want that to happen especially entry Gabbard adorned season at best not a good that's not a good image of how the game should be. An idea. That. We don't practice. Fight. You know when you when you think about it is kind of thought of almost comical because basically I tell players only reason won't fight coached art. As a reason to fight cause retired wanna stop the drilled and you got to take five minutes to break it up and then all of a sudden you don't you work all off season put this practice goes together. Of time periods and number replace you one Ronald appears not till wears a salute men in my whole offseason trying to. Wing down practice schedules and UID two guys in and out and once you start fighting. You mess in my schedule. World's get you that our reporting that a surprise now are 25 as we got a break up a fight. Said Le will fight in football when you fight to get funding kicked out again. And so when that happens you're gonna get some skirmishes there was like guys pushing the legal war fight. Mean we really bright we really want to fight was held little I shall present. A most organized Golda nobody it to did you put some boxing gloves and an after party guys like. Don't go round in two. Wolf so I mean if you don't wanna teach that it it becomes a distraction people say Willis to pull off. Letting tough you kicked out again. You're out of gang I mean you're out it's not like we'll get a second chance. The officials say you're out of a game so now your best players out negate the fight really go. When you look at what small items and view today fifth time what was your initial reaction to those common. Well my reaction be made out of it. Well I think. Arnold too much made being made out of it I think now with all the information we have on CT and obviously the families that are affected by that. You know it's a sensitive subject I think if you know these young man he was really talk about the passion yes football. And I've said this. All along. The information we have today obviously helps players and in family members make decisions. On whether they wanna play the sport I do know this if like 1 o'clock back all the information I have on the first in line. That you agree it is game ever invented. What about some of the desert generation nominee buffs have been around this game for a long time as everybody who's a friend of new orders in this sort of Roma football at this stage delight of the same way it's. Policy probably 95%. The bottom. When you think about this game on what it brings you the life lessons it teaches. For a lot of players. It's their area. I'm not sitting here today to win for football decline. So before we bash football. List is pumped to breaks. We all collection of what choices. What you gather information players every formation now to know if they play this game there's there's certain risk you take certain re should take. Off Bobby's done all the time he took a risk joining the army. He joined the army fought the Korean War war war to. He put his life on the line for us for our freedoms okay that's part of when your police officer. Every day you walk out your home as the risks. When your firefighter. You walk into that dueled it was a risk it was risk your life we understand. There's a rear spring football does this play sports I get it. That's part of you get to choose which you will choose this profession not so what do you if you have talent enough yet passion for the game football go play. I'd never live my life in fear. Never ran never would. When you look at its. The non guaranteed contracts the players are getting. And this is gonna think he's gonna become more and more of a focal point in the next two years yet. What can the NFL do I mean how can they get to a point where this money it's guaranteed for these guys so when you look at these contracts that their car did its. And it's a hot like stuff creates a 200 million dollar contract he gets all 200 million. DC Derek car's contract and it's a 123. Million dollars but really when you get down to it it's far less money comes up to about seven million dollars over those five years. Do you see this changing without a strike. Doesn't have to do. So in Wisconsin. And the only still. Because of 2000 players that lost to the house and house on the in the strike missed a game. Went on strike you know in the state games and we ended up coming back. And we got them who we got some things before that obviously. But but I think when you when you think of a player's ability to get a guarantee contract if Obama player in today's world of football. It's not not difficult it's on to your. Asian even get enough of fiscal two year deal got to renegotiate every two years but it gives you the opportunity. And maybe one of the smartest guys ever do this. Was Darrelle Revis. You got yourself. They got a guy and it created does it every two years to name it LeBron and that's where implant right. Every two years a stay here give me a good team asked they have not go somewhere else and of the I'm done with jabs right that's itself so unless you're willing to do that. That you gotta go strike. I mean we got washed into it right now Kirk cousins. Smartest guy and he says you know what would decide if I wanna play for guys because played. Good to exit row. You guys won't be long term deal taken to receives away from me for a thousand yards apiece and I got a tight in the assault was or maybe a year. About that. I bet you a little bit on yourself right and that's the scary part. A football because you're you're one hit away from being injured and I get damp but that's part of the deal if you want. The big money you wanna stay in the top news of now it's your position bet on yourself. Two year deal if I'm playing in today's world to your deal. Yeah. Mike and Mike ESPN two ESPN radio Clinton Yates nonfarm. All guests are on a cell plans or performance line were presented by progressive in errant. Joining us in studio right now as he has interbrew will okay well. Morning guys are you good. Wills dressed to impress not is not present laws seals to aside I would pastel on it was Easter colors as saying gimme very Easter inch Cummings is very Nantucket that's healed you know some of his finger up on the East Coast tomorrow is gonna mean later on today's gonna go on a yacht. And sort cruising the harbor that was relevant that surprised a blizzard is that a sale to assert sensory here. Mike you might coach Herm is spot on football is agreed sports seat he has a risk. I'm positive genetics please mark some more susceptible is probably doctor well. Well I do I've I've I've said this I think that our knowledge on CTV. Falls short of our certainty I think most of us come out here and talk about as we know. It's CTE is a definite and and and positive symptom of playing football football causes brain damage in these conclusions. Honestly the science is not back up yet there's a correlation. Does seem to be a correlation but we have no idea what to compare that against. Jessica I wanna do I'm going to be enough and compare attributes of the CT being as it goes on. Is how does the obviously were focused so much on the NFL. But how much is it gonna come out like with soccer I mean there's a lot to the taking lessons and soccer you know there's always been bizarre to ban on soccer players they don't remembering. With a concussion that matters that they take. Is this is symptomatic across all sports obviously boxing is is a focal point of the UFC how does it impact how we view those sports movie full. Taylor Twellman who works for this network famously retired as a result wants me quite a few of the sparklers have gone as well. At Mike and Mike. Herm Edwards is often the smartest person in the room I would DREAM Act that was certainly the case I would not I know last segment. And Michael exits he completely disagrees fight guys are fighting for everyday regarding fighting in on training camp things get any intentions rise. And in agree and add to that I agree most fights happened when guys are frustrated which comes would be tired and with his. I like I'm going to cut that actually ran an NFL football game. An animate agree with the second one which is that they're tired and frustrated they wanna break it's easy way. Congress that Dylan Armstead is busily says guys like I like it it's not time yet video he basically was like when you get tired of running drills you mess up the schedule and everybody is decided I you given the petite it's a mental thing you've given to fatigue frustrated and that's a byproduct of OK okay but not like a calculated I'm going into this on another. Hello ounces at a level above but sometimes it is yet why don't fall back on her experience I don't have the background challenge my net that's shocking how about how about this I mean there there are times where. Mean you're going to training camp for your going through conditioning and stuff you know like I. Oh my my back has tightened up on me here a little better in the shouted and a little bit I mean there's there's those two guys is wanna take a break furlough Lothian just tweaked an ankle yet so to see the trainer get that fixed with OSHA. I was gonna say it was a swipe at his slip out and that now we're comfortably you know value to do it some doesn't mean I did I think it in my senior year. Once summer I'll running in in its August in a life. Edwards is doing some conditioning now on the field now is like you know my. I'm done for today I'm taking this one on again. My back. The trainer and there's I electoral outside I'm like that's just to the back work out with the weights right before it came out here so yeah the it's gonna work you Betsy images so you really get Smart with it that's the privilege of a player that knows his place on the team. Now I'm not gonna hold myself as any big. I did go to school in LA as well placed always wind dying however. Man I was hanging on to a roster spot and if you're like that you're running every hill at full speed the guys who don't have a C plus Pepperdine at Pepperdine doesn't get over AT and you know you got Pamela Anderson walking across campus and Montell Jordan this is how we do it like sitting courtside at best ball games still puzzles with government as the facts blow came to register movies are on the hill he's a hero to. Some streets are brought you back straight talk wireless best phones best networks. No contract you said it that you didn't think that Jamar Adams the player who came on that he didn't mind dying on the field you need to apologize tells you about it. Yeah I Clinton I don't think. Not only do I think he should of had to apologize I don't like that he had to clarify his statements at the to have Todd bulls. Jamal Adams said something that if we're all being honest we asked school football players that we ask that if anybody in the in any profession. Are you giving your all are you emotionally committed to the very end of whatever it is were asking you to commit yourself to. And when it comes to football it's inherently gladiator sport it has the war in battle metaphors. Woven throughout it. But what we do that everything's society from Paula needs children up to work that battleground states and fight fight fight. But football it's no inner world and ending here's a guy that steps of to a microphone in carries that out carries that metaphor out the full extreme. And that's all it was meant. It was a metaphor. I don't disagree but I think that the reason why it cost socket I think it is the apologize either I just thought it needs to be clarified. Why people. Took issue with it wasn't a matter of right or wrong well it was a matter of you this is scary. And now the we've seen these CT is old now we've seen sort of the theories serious reality. Of whether or not the science proves it or not which by the way I don't need signs to tell me if Obama's brain and just walk around the guys I know that little while their whole lives atomic anecdotally I am fine but my point is that. It's wanting to read a report. It's another thing as he guided carried off the field on television screen it's a third being to hear guys say I'm willing to die for this. And then have people up applaud when he's right next the commissioner I think the for the casual fans that was a shocking statement to here said it's it's a forceful and direct way from a guy who is extremely youngest. CI I agree with you will and I said this earlier it's passion. That's all he's talking about is it. My whole life I've thought about this and neither the clarification that while Watson as a person is Amanda's eyes so passed about a sport he he wants to give it all for his sport. And I think anybody who's been an athlete water polo soccer. Golf basketball whatever is you invest so much into it. To give to whatever level you get when you tap out there I got no more can't go any further my career that. That's all he was sane is like I'm I'm just all in here I'm 100% committed. To everything that I have to do to be the best version of myself for not just myself but also for my team. And it's at that simple. I mean at their summit felt awkward on Gaby is it was clearly demands that next absolutely I'd be death on the field are a good age trying to have happen I would really like. Had like a live during what was going through Roger Goodell is mine and I'll add the speed. There in real time and on well stocked well self protective shield protective shields but both cut. He sure had. Here's where dispute Clinton helping many people sent their shops I mean I think that the crowd illustrated there was clapping because were all in on this emotional matter for this emotional commitment. And the truth the matter is here's what I think's going on. I don't think what Jamal Adams had anything to do CT. And I don't think CT has anything to do seat at some point we start having fighters that what does that Arabia you confused him I want you to he had me at hello but then you lost me and Allan the fights that we have a very rarely about the things. We seem to be fighting about okay. And you talk that this is morning Clinton and I totally agree that calling capita debate is not really about Kong capita guest quarterback now it's. The reason he is the number weighs 39 49 selling Jersey in NFL is not because of his quarterback play. It has nothing to do with how the guy threw the ball it truthfully has nothing to do with the guys human being. Asked to do right to symbol and the cause that he now stands for and every time you were hiding you've got in I've had he back in force and has had a debate. We are in some extent pretend. We are some mystic pretending when we use the name calling Kapanen if apple were actually talking. Aren't you talk about me Playboy you have to stick we we we can make it personal but Q I know her elbow whatever it is this I I. I don't what are your thoughts on this because for a lot of football fans I think that when we discuss the attack on football in the war on football all of a sudden becomes this world where it's like would either I'm willing to die for this war I don't care at all there's a lot of football fans relate. We're just got to get a check out and I don't need to see anybody died in an hour and a wonder were you think about sort of the long term viability. Of the game for fees that are like that because there's people like yourself were like yet is violet I'm here for it that's fine. But there's also good that elect look this is BP just a tad too far no wonder what you think about the long term ability of the NFL's sell the casual fan considering how obvious some of the violent. Fax now now I think you get to get a talking about IC CT conversation isn't about CT I gotcha that the truth to matters what were have a conversation as football because football itself has become political. I don't want it to be that way. I don't know that you want it to be that way you just is bubbly I was on outside the lines last week and bubbly pointed out to become ETE research somehow become completely and utterly partisan. Republican on one side Democrats on the matter how possible. How is that possible. You know how that's possible does not Betsy to him. We're having fights about something else you said war on football culture what's football symbolizes these things haven't like. Proxy fight about and end to treat the matter is I think the long term future football can be totally and utterly fine Clinton because Ali to casual and you point out act Indian. As we hit politics doesn't his symbolism wants to see. Hail Mary the into the game to win wind again cotton. I've two boys 11216. My wife has already stated they will never play for. Because there's fear factor the fear factor of these reports the fear factor of what you read what you see in the news I do think there's an impact that's going to be had on the sport because of it. You know look at I look at high school the high school team around the corner. Ten years ago there was 65 kids on varsity. 55 on javy and they had a hundred kids trying to for the freshman team and they whittled down to 55. The issues freshman team. Has less than forty people trying to port. There is an impact at that level does that mean there's going to be an impact that the NFL level know because the best players that play the sport are still going to stay with the sport they're still gonna rise all the way through. But there is an impact from the fear factor that is being created through this discussion of CTE how parents that have young children now. View the risk rewards of playing a sport ai had a. A nine year old and a six Schobel is well and you know. The nine you'll please flag football literally feel like I'm invested in that debate Adam had to make two weeks right. What is what he'll do what I are not to be honest and and and you you've heard me. Is a big difference between the intellectual debate in the emotional absolutely Angel when you do the risk reward analysis on your own children you know it doesn't how. Have to be much of a risk. Tuesday no no so is it a correlation CT in football yeah is it a loose correlation. So when I go home care too much yet but bodily just Indians to viewpoints on. I don't see how you can click the dominoes to the point where football ratings and popularity dart. The fall and we had a down year last year but there may be less participation but that doesn't mean lets people watching. Mike and Mike is here radio he has paean to Clinton Yates -- Arnold will Cain. I wanna ask you this because this is where Matt right now one on cap and whether or not ghost Baltimore we talked a lot about what the as the Saudi. We've talked a lot about what your head coach art. I'm personally of the belief that number one. Baltimore's agreed an Xbox and the reason that it had nothing with the ball I think that's a place where he could alternately be extremely popular. And as far as his cause and his efforts and activism goes he could be extremely effective I also think. That if the NFL wants the final witness in this board in amended act makes some level of Santa beyond controversy. Having him be a little bit of a cult hero in Baltimore connect help them what do you think bubble is an expert who tweeted this yesterday someone can remember but okay. If these guys aren't actually human beings we're talking about their just symbols you know the ravens audited. Day on nine comic cap rank and Tim Tebow. There are balanced these symbols out idle time. Painted both of them on the roster. We are between that put us is a perfect. Out metaphor of how we turn these guys into just symbols and not actual football players I've listened to you guys this morning at a couple points on his cap. On number one. Ray Lewis did Ray Lewis give Colin Capp predict bad advice will that depend on what advice giving college. I defended Michael vick's advice to can't happen because Michael Vick is getting caught on cap need advice on is how to get employment not. The spokesman for cause not be true to himself not anything else but the bad steps to saint act and someone else thank. I'm gonna give you a job. Adding dissenting about Ray Lewis is Ray Lewis saying Colin this is the best way to get a job put your cause in the background he's probably right. But be clear that doesn't mean it's the best advice on how to be true yourself or or how to sleep well or how to do greater things done in your life that you think you're committed to. But if it's about how to get a job I don't think we should be taken Ray Lewis missions over this well let's be clear but the problem is that then I think you're right on that if it's about how to get a job. Here it is Tuesday at home with what you're presentation is like or. Things that have been issued in doubles across America and that's what makes a lot of black people it quite frankly the notion output repairs Kutcher here. Device right here that because that is what the excuse is always being to not award somebody in an otherwise they're -- some sort of dessert that's what people get upset about that when it comes to breed Lewis because it's like equipment. It's the NFL. It was never just get a job anyway let's be real little Rex. The second thing a wanna say on this is you ask me directly you know I think about Baltimore's landing. Now you know very well we're up and contact you and I've had personal back and force of pat with a Mike Jones pat Michaels missed. So might my position on what I thought of comic captain expressed very well now I think. The Colin Catholics future employment is a simple risk reward now. Does he from a business standpoint bring you more than he costs at the bottom line and I've been through that Clinton. I've done this risk reward the best of my abilities not being in an owner. And it comes down to me on you probably Hong Kong cap program because in the end. Making use him on the football field Baltimore Ravens and I don't see no matter how mad fans wore myself included. I don't think about cap I don't think Baltimore Ravens fans buy your tickets I don't think they turn on the game frequently. I think he will not hurt their bottom line to have can't cabinet on a roster might now says this I'm a huge as a make parliament now tablet. Face icon can't predict it will not impact my phantom what tiller. But the bottom line comes as the deputy went. As a sport I mean her roses are you played when again and Kenney help your team win. If there's availability if you have an injury now or if Flacco struggling you need somebody to step in. Is there availability here to have a quarterback. That has enough experience. To actually make your team better. To compete and potentially to the playoffs all is often forgotten in sports with wins. When you lose I think more of the wheels start to fall off and people wanna take shots and all cable things are going right so therefore the knuckle and right because you know you said that or you didn't do this and it's the blame game goes along. Winning kind of stalls all of that because when they're winning everybody kind of like in join the train and going to have a train ride is good it's movie right now here we go but here's one thing Barbara but voted yesterday which is that there seems to be no allowance of the notion that. Let's just say cap goes in people really liked him. Cricket moves beyond whether or not you're winning football games it's like it's impossible for people to believe this notion that'll actually help the popularity of the team itself. Cause aside if it turns out that he's actually doing all the things whether it be in the community for black people or grievance and whomever it may be if yeah oh. We kind of cool I kind of enjoy his presence it seems like it's never been allowed for in terms of where he might go automatically assume that everything is going to be a problem and I don't necessarily believe that's the case it's entirely possible that shows up to a city. And people don't really enjoy is present anytime you make a stand on any issue. That is outside the realm of your profession so OK in my profession is a quarterback in the NFL. Now I'm gonna take a stance on social issue outside of it when you make that stance there're going to be people that are going to be support. And then there's going to be others that are not supported so I don't think that's gonna change. It if he did sign a big there's still good now. Shortages of who and how they feel about it. Maybe that changes yeah. But there's always going to be people that go now I'm against it because that's as their personal belief of how they saw the protest what their view and what their take of set protest was. Is it going to change whether he's on team now I don't think I agree Hewitt soccer chief whether other fans the football team. But I don't think it's gonna change their opinion. We're getting refreshing honesty on this I mean John Merritt told I've never seen this kind of push back and on my history of owning an NFL team with a New York Giants. Louis Riddick yesterday on adding it was on the shores today's gonna said. There must be serious serious push is that it was writers and career because look at the guys that the leak as a brake on second chance. So this push back must be very very serious and Herm said this morning with you guys well this is an ownership position this is just like John to your point about winning cures everything. Only pushed back on that as I just don't think a football decision in anyway it's only an ownership and only a business decision. And here look I'm I'm taking a position to its contrary to the one that I that I am mostly fell on it can't happen. Starters protest I just don't think ask yourself coming out of your engine at. LA on eight year are you afford announcement is that what happens when you don't have a naming your. I was I was born and raised in the Bay Area giants fan warriors fan and a 49ers fans now's our growth of my my team that just took them to LA Reid the only woman has direct experience of this and con capitals on your yen did Akashi to pop violist tickets watch your game by fewer jerseys not. Because Ed didn't have anything and that act I don't Wear other people's jerseys and by the way they stop an -- horrible well OK dog he's. President it's been hard to be uniter it like when I grew up it was Montana was young it was rice who was John Taylor Roger Craig. It it was and this is. Woke and to register in my in my cling yates' son farm he's hosting the Priscilla ocean all week from one to 4 PM ESPN radio and solo and you get this under state solo really is still a yeah well speaking of where someone asks a lot pipes for you and ask your thoughts on a different matter which is. The NFL thing at they're considering allowing marijuana use it for players in terms of pain management where you come down do you think. Your personal things aside do you think Smart idea for the week dudes I was Randy graders on the field the Dallas Cowboys. And that's kind of a start in the in the minor health a right. Now I mean okay. Arm. I have two things on this if there are very clear rules and you can't. Abide by them. It's calm and I mean if the article has a rule against using marijuana kitchen set that aside and make your multi millions of dollars played overall we're talking about for the purposes of Pena phenomenon is set out recreational stuff I mean we're talking about guys were obviously hurting. If it helps the league and helps the product. Why not move us out of the rubble Ali okay you know I mean hold all these thoughts at same time okay. Number one he got abide by the rules I mean he can't make millions of dollars and I had very little before number two should be NFL embraced marijuana. As a pain. Mac paint helping making you have probably I don't have much problem with that probably better than OP always that we have running rampant on their football but to society as a whole. Number three though. I just think when we did it and political opinion marijuana and you need right now it's oddly consistent out there play. House. It'll be like glossed over it. Oh you have cataracts and yet you got catamounts that your your gas and. You're on you guys at ten years in periods train the conspiracy dare I noticed you brought it up the hill politics back. They're got to get itself and not conspiracy calling you know you are you saying that doesn't go on and off Sanjay you know it is obvious I think that that doesn't mean at the people who actually I gotta have it use it shouldn't have gotten one person is willing to lie. I got ones. And that's not a. Don't pardon me I just think sometimes bodily not it's not is not conspiracy theory when Mike ten out of a dozen of your friends' latest hate those those different path. Marijuana some times we lost over it's not a harmless drug by the way is just not. But I think adults to be able to make their own decisions each bill would I don't wanna cope with pain in on mechanism at their positions out of the failure so be it let people make their own failures but let's not pretend like marijuana is this panacea with no down sides whatsoever marijuana back. It inhibitors and and the fact. There's other things in the world and also do the same thing absolutely man I mean look fact alcohol really not a great thing for yes people children. You know so I added I these hates it's Chris again it's about personal choice to it's about risk reward. And it means our nation. As a whole. To get outside the world of sports politically. It is becoming more and more acceptable more and more states have legislation on the books to allow recreational use of it not just. Medicinal use of it but recreational use of it many that's gonna become a gray area for a lot of lot of is professional sports teams and college sports teams are gonna have to deal this is well. Nam because it's become legal in their state. He's okay well it's legal here it's not legal there now yes the rights of the and away. A Major League base ball. MBA. NFL to determine what is legal and what is not legal even if it is actually illegal in society lot of logistics one word answer and other stuff you'll Kaydon will is acutely and about. One word answer. A couple of yes okay. You're listening to the ice with Leann caller you're on the air. Highly and long time it was her first time caller how. Why in your professional opinion in my calls off the year this car. Yet it's Carl I mean we had he dates it was great thoughts. Well you know. When you switched to Geico you can save a lot of money on car insurance. You should call them well Geico because saving 15% or more car insurance is always agree to answer its roots and to it's. Fans don't care. Who's on the run of the stadium will still be full on Sundays they should worry about sponsors. Calling up on this that's its sponsors Robert furrow. Like you grammar police earlier I'm glad you did that. Because because I did grammar police all the time on Twitter. They always eat it all the Sean that's not how you say that he should have said this way or you know your tweet was wrong is inaccurate or the so I'm glad you did it I appreciate that. At Mike and Mike everybody's going to be out there higher than a kite integrity of the game will be damaged but that left a long time ago. Talk about the potential of marijuana use her for pain. But it is I I disagree I don't think there's going to be a bunch of players running around on the football field bid are smoking. Right before they take the field but it does. Inaccurate I mean professional sports and athletes in general. Care about their body. They care about their ability to perform you know why they care about the performance. Yeah that's how they get paid so if you're going out there and you make the decision Richard take a football field or any professional sport and you're going to be high. I'm gonna gonna limits or you might not be interpersonal bass as far as an out but likely add Mike in my class won here mark my words in a mind numbing paradox marijuana will be found to prevent the onset and the best treatment of TE. I'm not a doctor and I don't play well on the radio but I can guarantee you'd probably be wrong. Mikey Mike when it's somewhat. You're here today from Los Angeles. Los Angeles is the home or the matchup. Paul's area home. Of one of our ball and the ball for him right I said this all week I like Lavar ball the debt. Can I like love or the EO. I like Lavar ball the hype man for Lon crystal ball who is now playing for the lakers I do not light of four ball the basketball coach. And I thought that the way he carried himself at this AAU tournament that a deal is put on a blues and Vegas last week. Was deplorable. It was embarrassment and I think that if this dude wants to be able to tow the line of being relevant but still having people sort of think that what he says is kind of a joke. He can't do both at this point he's got a responsibility you know him and you know this situation well as a guide has been around as well apparently UCLA. Some what you think about this from an insider's standpoint alone I've I've watched him coach BA you are Gibson's Alonso was in the eighth grade. Want you saw this weekend is not how he coached. OK so something has changed really what has changed how well now there's a boom Mike in cameras following him everywhere he go. Our I think it's deplorable. First of all the way he treated female official. If he'd use terminal I think that indeed you know what your your right to apologize because you your name is on that tournament and you allow that to happen. Just because you wanted to make sure people came and watched the sideshow in the circus that is. Wrong now I'll leave strong from another perspective. Twice during a life period like periods and for the recording world is when coaches he called coaches can come watch kids he pulled his team off the floor. Not for something that they did. But for something he did. So now you're limited not only opportunity for the kids that you're coaching to be seen which are also taken away the opportunity of those you're playing against. Who's to say kid doesn't get hot. And all the and some division two school that maybe not have them on the radar screen goes you know what we need to shooter in active shooter and I want a more. We need a big and this guy can rebound and so. I you know I'm I'm gonna come back and watch him play later you don't know. None of us know. But what I think is it speaks to a larger larger issue now at the AAU circuit. Right eighth circuit is not as the grassroots program is not that I get the label of being bad. Here's where becomes bad there was a hermit like angels of woman best friend. Was coaching in the stern. And he's a you know it's it's the same terminal Lavar originally took his team off the floor Boca at that's interment based cores or god was keeping score. Got to a fist fight with a coach. At that same tournament there was another coach after Lavar they took his team off the floor. At that same tournament there were multiple incidents is amongst parents for to be exact. Where they're going to blow in the crowd you'll have funny thing about this is day I never once mentioned the kids. Isn't that what grassroots basketball supposed to be about now you talk about Lavar ball before ball I will never question as a father look it wants. He is one of the most humble. On selfish plays the game right away. Good leader physically skilled as well thought it assassins on that you talked get everybody that you Elaine and I think he looks guilty to develop skills from when you have a personal coach that have come from debt. Okay but your traits as far as who you wars person often reflected about what you were taught at home from your father. Want so. Is an outstanding team talked to anybody please heal last year ducked anybody who's ever played with him at any level and he'll tell you he's one of estimates are you'll find. But what comes that becomes a distraction. Is now when you were selling merchandise your marketing become more important than the actual reality. And I think that's where we've gotten into an area with what four ball that's dangerous it's dangerous for him. It's dangerous for the parents on the outside that want to be like him because they seated as a way to they can have personal and financial growth so it's not just about what parts about the next 5000 Paris wanna be just like Lavar because they think it's the right way to promote their kids with out the other aspects. It yet is on right. I I think that's a danger and and the other thing bit of a byproduct of it is I think this is gonna affect you steelers' record. Because he has two other kids that are common on the part wondered you elect yellows right there announced a freshman right he's he's going to be an attic component this year they needed a shooter on the raw or he's been inconsistent at times high school level but he is very skilled shooter. Low Melo I think is much more like his father. Then the other two r.s four personality goes and how he goes about conducting him self. Obviously gotten issue with the WW we oh with with what he sat open Mike on live television. But I I think there are there are going to be kids. And parents are going to recruiting process right now that do not want their kids part of any any part of this circus that follows Lavar ball and that's going to be an issue for Steve Alford and he's a basketball program will be full list here with Steve and his residency about this will be joining us by the way in the next hour. This falls on the shoulders of the ball ball who I happen to like generally as a person. I just don't like the things that not seen him do but haven't talked to him having met them. One a few occasions and what have you obvious these very affable is like a fun loving guy and what have you. But he has. Ventured beyond the rounds of obnoxious. And that's really where this becomes a comfortable. I'm not put an ad on the shoulders all of the media when the cut dashed his could have they owned a reality show you got the house wives of every city in America point eight AAF army and anyway the people's lap of one another two bit any devils face get ridiculous not sit at the Nazis did at that I haven't seen that could I don't watch that nonsense but in the end when it comes down to a given us and at the at and amp put both both on the airwaves don't suddenly tell me that is the media's fault that we covering a ball ball. Now look I've been very vocal. On these airwaves about how much I'm rooting for the balls if you agreements are up the ball to act against me I'd had nearly rooting for them to. Make a growth from a media standpoint to make that gamely. Famous because anybody can do an American I got no problem with that route however. What this situation shows to me is that Lavar is not in control of this he once thought he boy would lawn still came out. That was one thing but if he's trying to market this entire family if he's trying to get the gold that he stated for all three of his sons to get to the NBA. He's not gonna be able to do it this way he's got to tighten up the ship and what I'm saying here. It was one thing to get Alonso out he's probably the best player and he was the first one. But if he can't keep it together on the local level. There's no seat for jello oral Melo to be able to take the same route as ones are simply because of partisan having control well. I would go a step further when you sign on to be a coach. You'll immediately become a leader of young men. What you do how you conduct yourself on side coach in the eighties circuit. I would never. Ever. I would never call an official other bad officials on the AAU circuit yes of their officials were personal jet engine agendas on the AAU circuit there's no question that terrorists. But they are the officials of the game and I got in a technical before as a head coach on a U circuit yes I have however been thrown out of a game. No. Aunt and nor what I ever forfeit a game and take it team off the floor. It's not fair to everybody else you're what precedent are you setting that's the concern I have again I don't have a problem you. All parents make mistakes. All that make it might have made mistakes I'm sure I'm making mistakes right now to my kids are gonna look back on twenty years and I'll be like man. I was dad never did that OK we all have that OK but at the same time. When you sign up to be a leader of other kids there's a standard that should be set in my subtle plan on a team. That had a coach consistently pulling them off the floor forfeiting games I would have them go play for another two. Mikey Mikey ESPN two ESPN radio Clinton Yates on Farnham Stephen A Smith joins us here were present by the president's arsenal phone guests on the soap and Soro performance line. Steve and of course is in studio given a race talk brought about street talk wireless pestilence bet networks no contracts. Quickly you want straight talk right now 60% of America agrees 60% of America and gotten on to do with whether or not easily to his lawyer to me easily right there you have no. Marbles a listen let's talk about what happen in a play yesterday when I saw on the ground here's the ruling if app or making it legal catch if you falls into debt ball territory that is over a real or fans in into the stands or other deadly area at the Texas we goal in the out dance but the ball was dead bowl and all runners award. That's fun I I still think if you jump over France to catch bull. Should be all right now I'll contradict myself here a little bit beat that the B and out about torture fair enough reason to be home. I think it's odd I think he should be and now. I mean it was a fantastic at Torrey Jackson last night that was a sensational catch up they did you know he he jumped and obviously. He fell over the wall and we get all of that but. Dallas is sensational catch it throughout India and MLB history they usually would be an out I don't see any reason to change to rule now. We've been talking about it all week and here's what I've stated concerning college applicant ravens I think that not only is this a good potential football situation I think the Baltimore has a landing spot. Is a tremendous potential place for him in terms of what he could do that community I think if the NFL. Really wanted to be forward thinking on this. They would be looking toward the potential positive effects of him being a person in a community not just how many fans might make Matt what do you think about Baltimore is a location for him. Over the wheel I think he should be a location for him because I think that Joseph Flacco hasn't done much when news of global in this questions about him. Not just as a player but his health obviously it's not one of the two Baltimore Ravens haven't used to be since the likes of ray Lewis and Ed Reed tied number three. However rose when you bring up that the Baltimore community what have you. Let's look at it from a different perspective. Colin Capp the naked body did you know obviously is an incredibly polarizing figure. Yeah segments populace who highly offended by the fact the elect protest the way he did by the national anthems that Stan. We get oh I did feel that way most black Americans and did not feel that way and we get that. And so as a result of it you have an abundance of white folks who felt otherwise. And there is no question that is of that is influences applicability. Of that award. You know yet Pete wouldn't hesitate to bring him on board because. They just don't want to headache owners are about making money these same as but wait who who who may pocketed like over 246. Million apiece. You know in profits for one year alone you know last year the year before. They make money hand over foot but he was still woman choice be performed at halftime with a suitable so they all about the money if any bought. Anybody. Compromised the bottom line anyway in the eyes those individuals of people have to go. And regardless what anybody says that's what's happened what Colin Capp Dixon how we take into account we put him in the Baltimore community. And we noted is to redo mr. grey what happened Leeson etc. we get all that. That's going to galvanized. The black community certain ways but does that appease the owner is that which you. If you of the shot at a Baltimore Ravens is that what you want if you own in the national football be to put. Collie captain nick in that kind of environment with the folks at the rally round him. You've been more vociferously because he represents exactly the Condit they that they were talking about I'm saying you meet you. Others who had no problem we'll comic applicant so he announced that he doesn't go away but outside of that we had no problem with them. But if I am a billionaire why owner. I'd be reluctant to bring him it's that kind of farm but the calculus there is basically saying. I am taking what is effectively white fear over what is potentially black support off he's selling jerseys are going to mean it is entirely possible that this could. Had a component of phantom too his coffers if people are willing to step to tables know what you were willing to do this. I'll support and my. Saying that all I'm asking if that's what what what that what I'm saying to you was at a fumble white billionaire who happens to own an NFL TE. I'm will think about what I said before you just mentioned which it a Amin go to I mean this is a sure he's also Jersey Shore he's gonna generate some revenue in that rig caught. But I also have to take into account what he's going to cost me. And that's the reality of the situation like this inescapable. It's not about right or wrong because we believe you believe he was right I know I believe he was right you know I don't have a problem and often tortoises is it's it's his right as an American citizen he wants in the of the national at the particularly if he highlight that he's not Amy has I in the direction of us servicemen and women who represented our country if I don't I'll be app and we love and appreciate that. He was talking about police brutality racism prejudice the exit that each and bringing attention to court on and that the improved pool. On that or speak against him because of that reality. But I am a black man who feels that way if I'm a white billionaire. I have an entirely different agenda I have an entirely different. You know just to sculpt of the matter. And that's what we have to take into consideration off ought to be the case that the of people who support him who who supported primarily from the African American community too busy thinking about what. Three and what node view right there we're not looking at it from the lions all of bill Indian. They're not going to be an African American he happens to be light. Who's to say that he not offended by idol with the that he and hey you know what. This is going to affect my bottom line and I don't know the dude whose 1121. His last edit box dot. Who struggled to complete 60% of his passes who hasn't won in the last three years of work this it's that's the reality. The reality also ray Lewis and his comic history on Twitter seemed to keep off field stuff Friday was your reaction right. I did have a problem Ray Lewis in what it and a probable rate was being one that. Because Ray Lewis does not want to keep his mouth yeah so how are you going to advocates somebody Cuban amounts. That's my issue agree with the beat that listen I've known Ray Lewis use he's a friend love immediately law. And and and I'm not one and it hearkens back to the troubled past that he had in 2000 what have you. I'm simply saying there Ray Lewis local bulletin purposes to support me as Pritchett. This dude gives sermons he doesn't have conversations at third it's OK how in God's name are you on its program. And encourage somebody to be quiet. Talk about not practicing what you eat a would be the in the of that because no Ray Lewis to be hesitant to speak. On social issues and what he believes Ailes not communities. Even when he wasn't playing you talk about him when it's written by him on Twitter YouTube the video of the army of makeup you of all the opening about the listening to be quiet. I met shortly again his methods is appreciated. The message are in particular is that. I mean I got the call already darkened lab own oil off on all the is a joy I was in the space lab and it's people like that you. Yeah you tell. That's the shot. Stephen a Smith joins us here Mike and Mike Clinton used on pharma switch gears a little bit here detest rookie Jamar Adams clarified comments about the football field being the perfect place to die did you think he needed to do you really did not. He did not need to do that at all he never once mentioned the word CT he wasn't talking about TTE wasn't talking about those who suffer from CT. This guy as a young passionate football player and it said the part that placed the guy would be on the football field meaning doing something. That you love Fernando baucus was boxing one top forgot what it was going to be right before it's fighting it's not available you'll Felix Trinidad at all. All she mulls the somebody he said I would rather die in the ranks that's how much he loved sports you have of the people. Who have what securely to certain positions that you can disagree with them like Martellus Bennett did and he's absolutely right because he's older. Why are and he places more of a value one might be on the playing field. Than a youngster evidently like Jamal Adam's apple what to mall as an average was speaking about was his passion and his love. For the particular game that he is playing and how he loves it so much that if something happened to him. Or in the field. That's week he would prefer it happened to him rather than a caught crash or a plane crash or drowning Ingle suffering from cancer or something like that. He say he'd rather doubt on the football field that what they're speaking about CT. That people Goldwyn that would build individuals that would misinterpreting it misconstrue in his comment. And using it for whatever reasons that they were using the heel he owed no explanation. But he's young he's in the NFL he's a rookie yet to golf which you say is so he was probably buys. To do exactly what he didn't terms of retracted Alex waited that would mean I'm told the world kick rocks. A medical marijuana and its place in the NFL. For pain tolerance your thoughts on them explore and while I'm famous for telling everybody that they all of the we need. And I stand by that that was the week wears you out I was overflow I was over four I want a vociferous at that that's that's that's the first take for us as they but I would tell you this I would say you found out to mall items watch. Well I knew he watched as he was on the show but Alexei it is. Law. There is a place for medical marijuana is a place for marijuana to be used for medicinal purposes I happen to know people have used it. Who battling cancer when I keep. Not tried to dissuade anybody from doing. What I'm focused on our people like try and hide behind the when in fact what they wanna use with recreational purposes examples of medicinal purposes. And beat to be clean even though I'm not one who doesn't oil has ever done it. I obviously grew up and I grew up in the streets Hollis queens New York's city. You know drug clip the corner OK I know folks who who abused. Marijuana some have been members of my family not my immediate family but my family I mean listen I try to be a hypocrite he. I hop on I am good friends Obama as snoop dog who gives new meaning to green rooms okay so I am in no way encouraging people. Not I'm not trying to be judgmental in terms of those who elect to use wheat. I am directing my comments when I say state all though. When I mean. Every you know I am not talking about the average person out there or even somebody who knows what it's not collecting any team out. I'm talking about these idiotic athletes who lose millions of dollars because you using. I have never seen a joint that was worth it let me I challenge anybody shall we want joint that has been worth millions that's. Mike what is the purpose of delineating between medicinal and recreational like what I mean what to the average for apple asked the purse what does it matter to you is wouldn't think if the NFL player like it's about pain management. Medina and all recreational pain management to me sort of fall somewhere in between clay that's what I. And when I'm saying is if you're talking about pain management to meet Apple's long lines of this practices. I have no objection to it. What I'm saying is you went out Bolton though. The cat out there at eight degrees and use and you go to a show it is all season and they showed up to a bit top stock. Stop what the excuses you want you up with the NFL. Prohibits its use you know that. You know if they find out about it it's going to cost you hundreds of thousands or in some cases millions we have a guy by the name of Randy Gregory who works who played for the Dallas Cowboys. We've barely seen this may play because he's been suspended more games that he's been active because he can't stay all the all we need it makes no sense whatsoever if you're going to court just sell dollars. That's what I'm speaking to get it of course you dollar store toward. If it's not gonna impede you ability to do your doctor what you wanna do. But when you know. That whether the suspension or anything else that it is going to impede you ability to form your occupation. And it's costing you major major dollars UN you know fooled the use of the UN no fool you again sympathy from me. You shouldn't be doing all but there are a lot of things that we'd like to do that we do all we wish we could Kabul today and look ahead as the vehicle do you know say can I mean I got to drink maximum don't get me wrong. I love I'm Lebanese and the fiasco that's obvious at Tennessee army vehicle outlook the outlook of two drinks. Guess what. You don't see me off birthday that you see me with a cup team bro. Because I got to work. And that's not allow. Really. I don't make the rules go to have the gold make the rules but the golden rule. And got me to grow up and accept that is that a look at excuses. To justify doing stuff they know they have no business doing because it's prohibit. This was gears here a little bit I wanna talk about basketball you're favorite sports Stephen A joining us here Mikey Mikey SPN radio ES PNC were presented by progressive insurance. All guests on soap fans over former slot. Elect Lavar ball the dead. Elect Lavar ball the CEO elect levoir ball Heitmann. I do not like the volleyball basketball coach so on sort of great story about how back when he saw him coaching Alonso when he was younger kid and age you. Of articles like this now I can carry a dollar and act like a complete. Aaron you know cave man. Toward female residents on some locals doesn't even matter that he was a woman but there's an attic for their jobs because of the patriarchy and all this other nonsense that women are forced to deal with. I can't deal with him act like this as a coach I think he's gonna ruin it for jello and Melo how do you feel over in the far. 1000% agree with you can have articulated any better that you just did it's an embarrassment in disgrace he's conducted himself over the last couple weeks personable. You don't. Take your teen wolf too cool because you don't like the fish. I tee and I said this on our radio show over the last several days she'll be one. From high school to college to the probes. That can tell you with a straight face they have never have been exposed to bad officiating in the Korea. No matter as it happens to everyone it's indiscriminate. Officials are not perfect they make mistakes sometimes it is bad and incompetent from time to time we get all of that. Which you don't take your ball and go home that's number one number two. He has been talked about how you can do whatever you want you know and he was alluding to his keys but you coach and other people's kids to. Chances are they wanna play the game they don't wanna get taken off the cool okay that's number two. Number three. He doesn't seem to be to care about how it could potentially be affected most reasonable for he tells the kids you can do what you wanna do UK. Who gets to do that we're grown men we're adults we got families do we get to do what we wanna do no we do not we have to somebody. Who in God's name told them it's opiates that you don't have to answer to anybody that you get to do what you wanted to evidently they have to answer to him because he's the coach Bryant and he pulled more to coordinate again it also accused what is important is that the bottom line is they had to answer that you and then last but not least is like this. That female ref for re. You specifically today quote she. She stand alone. As I asked back if you've got about. What's it to work and you got her replaced. Bottom now every and then we turn around again get to go to. And then you'll be you know all of us that that you want Lee is bad at an update us and I've asked this question of radio show and ask it again. What happens at the lakers. I don't think it. Happens at the state issue and Alonso is giving ditched school. Okay not just by opposing point thoughts but in the media. Happens of people stock criticizing his. What's the blog duties that one. What is he gonna do that what he did when he shows that the state senate watches them play. Who does say he's not going to be a distraction. The magic Johnson. And an end Luke Walton and the Los Angeles Lakers out like I like you say the law of the EO. Or all the farm club and obnoxious as is it was exactly that we know we can't be Michael Jordan. We know you can't beat Charles Barkley we knew lob the ball the better than staff every week at all. You not look at people would you you don't take it really bad shot at him unnecessarily. But now what he has regressed to. He's got to be real day somehow some way viewed as a real himself and he's going to do major major damage potentially to Dallas got a great head on showbiz. You just never know what kind of distraction of laws is going to be and and and I just hope that he changes his ways because what I've seen. Over the last two and a half weeks has been a disgrace. I'll let. Go to the NBA with Carmelo Anthony. The report saying you wanna go to Cleveland while Houston. Do you believe that eight to be 100% for a lot of have to believe because I spoke to Carmelo Anthony and I happen awful fact it. On Houston's number one on the list Cleveland's number two that's what I've been reported for weeks. That hasn't changed I don't think he's ruled it out what the bottom line is is that he refers used. You know what he has told the knicks it is time to move on. On he has told an exit and a new day has arrived he needs the one they need to move more from him. He's look in the move I haven't spoken in the several weeks let me be very very clear about that this other stuff I've heard from other people but in terms of him having Houston on his list and didn't Cleveland. That I've directly hurt from him. He wants to go to Houston. Cleveland would be number two. But he hasn't ruled out anything leaping he's ruled out as staying in New York. But this upcoming season but then again that's not his choice because even though he has no trade clause even if he waved at that doesn't mean in New York Knicks have to capitulate and treat him. So they have some rights to. How much does this impact Tyree in where you think carrion to have a profound impact because Carmelo at the needs it to be showing a willingness to go to Cleveland. And once she showed that the network coat would plot an appropriate level of pressure to Cleveland amicable since he wants out if Melo. If he uses his top choice. And he's not you know really enthusiastic about going to Cleveland. Purse say. Then if your Cleveland what level of enthusiasm should you should go to move army for him. And then that limits your choices from the because if you Kyra he likes Minnesota. But Cleveland will want wigand's plus more of car he likes Miami but what do they really really have to offer to get cabaret. Currently like San Antonio but again of an ankle why would they really really have offer to get a concrete. And soda please that the teams that on his list because he's on the content for at least two more years you have to find yourself in a situation where. You know equitable assets are returned in favor of Harry Reid carried it to letting go up and that's what Cleveland thing right now he doesn't have a no trade clause. He doesn't have the rights of some of the other players like liberal Monica and mellow last and that's his dilemma right now he's got to find a way to do that. I'd it's only got to ask you this world champions are still Lumet Sankoh defenses stimulate weight world title and has to Tom world. Title challenger Miguel Arriaga Saturday. On the ticket with the what she wheezing Ecstasy off and somebody gets school. And as Mario I got because lament tickle is the real deal. Hammond Terrance Crawford to meet a battle right now the number 21 powerful on best south island world. Andre Ward would be number one particularly after his destruction of Sergei Kovalev but the bottom line is that I'm an aerospace junior fan. At the welterweight division term Cora for the small at 140. Obama McCain goes a bit smaller than Crawford to junior welterweight divisions well so we look at it from that perspective. Loma Genco is the real deal he's something special. Acts of the Nicholas Walters he destroyed to make him quit crying out loud moment jango is special. Com I haven't seen people I haven't seen too many fighters like him in my day I I I I expect a boxing lesson. Accident due to be fine pulled my post fight coverage for that does that but. I expect him to school biscuit that. Stay within obviously Tony is Kia OK but. How good is this for boxing mean last month Qaeda waffle box that we're having these fights. On you here and on paper you asked Manny Pacquiao Els a big name Loma. With crawler for yet. Right right around the corner as well how good is this for a sport that desperately is in need of a public push. Most phenomenal for simply because you getting boxing or free TV that your reminding folks that it leave boxes that exist out there so I'm incredibly happy you know actually football's not even a second boxing news I've loved boxing my first I'd have missiles when I was three years old. On Obama fought Abby watch box and I'd love deficits. You know you just look at boxing right now and I grew up in the days win. Boxing was ABC's wide world of sports. And the great how cool so why idolize wanted to people live lives Bryant Gumbel is another you know few others but I loved me so how close out. And he was the voice box of for the wild world sports. Com and something that I've advocated for years I was told me paean powers that be I give boxing back on on on on free television because if you do that we gonna due to seed content as we don't just have to wait for paper view wolf HBO to give us the championship fight. Back then and a day if you would a number of fifth ranked contender in the world at that it. We you'll going up against now before it added when you positioning yourself that title shot we saw what you wanna come up. Now in boxing if it's not a championship fight particularly paper view it doesn't really gonna ot interest and that's a share.