Aug 11, 2017|
Greeny, Golic & Mike Golic Jr. are joined by ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter. Plus, the guys discuss Josh Rosen's comments.
Doubletruck Stories: Joel Embiid has turned the Sixers' famed process into performance art, and everyone is feeling merry and bright-for now. By Ramona Shelburne.
The guys talk to Gruden about the Patriots loss on Monday Night, speak with Ramona Shelburne about the NBA and then bring in Charles Barkley who dishes on LaVar Ball and more.
The guys talk with Charles Barkley about the NBA and the antics of LaVar Ball and then speak with Todd McShay about his NFL Mock Draft 1.0 and more.
The guys play another edition of Fill In The Blank and then speak with Robert Griffin III on the current state of the NFL and is desire to return to the league.
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And that took the first thing people say to me now like he used to always be you know you're bigger than I thought he'd be get a good look I am you. Coming out over the years people will jump it all always make some remark about due to me and I sure vice Versa and human nice lower Chan. It. You mean the second one of the third one out which one of those dealers that his thirties devote my Graham posed is now you've lost weight it's like you deflated the stack below their fraud. Now it's like a floppy desert why are you still hear the hi Brett. The Avant. I've lost track of what our pick at everything that everyone comments to me on now is how much what you blow right at all ever hear is oh my god I can't believe how much weight Bolick has lost. And we made the observation earlier this week you've gotten down to an excel which is my size we Wear the same side shirt. Junior who is. Anything but junior when it comes to size and eyewear the same type shirt so we switch shirt during a break I think we both look fabulous Dario where were where it well right now your farewell green gets a little. Baggy on you to touch baggy but I mean much it's not like I'm wearing like a nice shirt it's close it's a reasonable looking sides it really shows off your pipe cleaners I listen I get the shall sun's out guns out my friend on Iraq in his defense I think if he would put that shirt on when I got a brand new in my BR right foot stress that I blown it out a little bit on the accommodate excel plot somewhat. I'm on the sex sells a little bit extra to it all right let's. Let's get to some football here not really wanna make sure we get to the Josh Rosen stuff because that's when I've been looking forward to a week is is this them. Now the discussion about that but quickly obviously top headline today Mitchell Drabinsky controversial with the bears trade up a spot in the draft had taken number two. And does one night mean it was the right move obviously not but you could not get off to a better. Our attention belliard couldn't say he did everything your asset and and as many will say dollars against third stringers or whatever but as as we talked about earlier he threw the ball poorly we were to have. Rift on this morning it's an Aussie he's not ready put him on the bench he threw well. He and forgetting the throwing well he looked good roll right role and left to put the ball on the money that Mike was one of the most impressive things to me. Is is poised and just being able to hang in the pocket and have command to come in at the end of that half. Minute 552 goal lead to a touchdown with thirteen seconds ago. I'll put together the string of completions that he did. He sure a lot of poise and a lot of command of the offense but I was really impressed with his accuracy he never really hung his receivers ought to drive at all. And you know what they count earn someone brought this up on tour this more when I was doing first and last Jacobs is up their play against third stringers he's playing with them to. The guys are blocking for him and guys that are catching forehand are not guys that are at his level either or at that starting levels of not like he's getting a ton of help from those spots either. But for me you mentioned situation that's a huge part of it that's a huge part of pre season is trying to see guys. In situations against different teams you can replicate those are practiced major two minute drills and all variations. Of time left of timeouts left of placed on the field and you can replicate that in practice but there's still something to doing it in a place that's not scripted doing at a place. We are not controlling all the variables and to see him be able to operate like that. In one of the most important scenarios in those two minute and a half and games scenarios is a huge feather in his cap. You know we always look at quarterbacks and other quarterback Sean Kaiser for the Cleveland Browns he's a guy that. Look like he was rising up and then look like a rookie in a scrimmage and he played well last night throws the deep ball incredibly well but what goes along with it. Is that guys he's trying to beat out didn't do a whole lot knowledge and Brock cost filers play against starters and then it was Cody Kessler when and then Kaiser. But he looked good I mean when they get their chance to show they're showing so these rookies it to Shawn Watson. You know it will he have a chance to displaced Tom savage at some point. Now which Robiskie threw himself and that conversation I know it's only one game Kaiser already kind of been in the in that that discussion. Were it won't happen is in Kansas City were what Holmes Alex Smith is going to start their so no that that's not going to change no matter how well ball's plays but these other three situations took some interesting turn well if you. Look at the four. There weren't more quarterbacks in the first Robert Kaiser went sore right the second. Let's let's use the four of them they're vastly different situations like my home goes to a Kansas City team that is a Super Bowl contender right and hasn't established quarterback. In Houston. Watson goes to 818 that is eight the Super Bowl contender without an established right quarterback. But beat the fact that he would everyone's estimation of him was he was the most ready to go and play I think he has a chance to go in and play I think. I don't think it's inconceivable he wins that job we quantity is the starting quarterback when the season begins in Houston I don't. Think that's inconceivable either I would word the Texans love Tom savage to play extremely well be being that he has more years in the league in Watson and probably dispute absolutely that's who they would want but. I grew fuel where it would not start mere two Charlie Watts or one match I know he'd Mitt. Doesn't make the decision predict John very Hopkins came out come out the other day and essentially throw his hat behind Tom savage as he did and freight dialects buy dot DeAndre Hopkins who's been one of the better receivers in the league what is supper to quarterback held there in Houston. That to me is kind of telling them what Tom savage put together behind closed doors so far. I went into this thinking that the Shawn Watson probably had the best chance to be on the field we want now that to me looks like this that are work could be the opera was all these other situations were it's a lot. You're not getting those veteran returns out of the quote unquote veterans that are on your team trying to stave off these rookies were Tom savage seems to have secured some of that. There's all these performances during you know this dead vehicle security more reps right in the following week strike may be Kaiser. And mr. misty give more one looks in game two of pre season so they can see them out there on tape against this defense maybe it's just in practice the way those reps to divvied up but they've earned that much out of this game down the situation in Chicago with I'm done with Robiskie is. They brought in a guy to be the quarterback this year they're paying him starting quarterback money for this one year only and you made a huge investment. Introduced he's eager to do whatever you think best develops him if you think it's put him in zone he'll put him in Sunni getting its way to the end the or not at all this year. I think the Smart thing to do with whatever you think is in the best interest of his development. That's job one this season over anything at first thing you're going to see there. The next step and Mike you know this is it'll be in practice where we don't see he'll take reps from practice. Always and that that's what's going to happen is is that they feel more culpable what they saw. A start to get more of those routes and it albeit Mark Sanchez expensed as he tries to go to move up the latter that. Picture starts to get super clear as the week's press on here receive those reps window and you start to understand who's going to be on the team and who's not. And that's going to become very very apparent there. You talked about it with the quarterbacks how much does I urge you guys bring it up before Ryan pace and John Fox they put out our list on dot com last night quarterback some hot right. John Fox's name was on coach is on the hot coach on a hot yet John Fox is name is on there. Hue Jackson is not if you Jackson gets to operate from a place Ryan understand I've got time. Would have all the sudden things are going south John Fox has to make decisions in a hurry. There are necessarily in the best interest of law Earl right for this week I put are going to save him his job in the urine now by saying are we got this kid out here now I need time. Those are things that have to be taken into consideration. Again fox is not a in 39 year old coach he's a guy's been around the block but he's also won his fourth coaching job and isn't going to get a fifth so it. Or third coaching job isn't gonna get a fourth I think it is. Right it was in Carolina and they was in Denver and Federer right so I mean oh yeah active coaches sometimes do things in the best interest to keep him on jobs of course they do and you can criticize that but. Then you would be being on realistic everyone does and it's not a criticism but it just acknowledging that while those quarterback situations are similar. They're driven by guys with agendas and places in their coaching career there earn a much different place you can expect the decision making a probably reflect that aren't that role on Mike and Mike presented by progressive insurance creators. Of an enterprise to Alter his range of coverage options and pick the price. That works for you so Michael senior and junior here. I'm one of the big stories of this week certainly were the comments of Josh rose in which it turns out or from an interview that he did several months ago but just. Was posted by Bleacher Report this week. And he is the opinion did an amateur at the right word is young quarterback from UCLA with all the potential in the world and he's a guy who gotten. Trouble is the wrong word but certainly got a lot of attention has got a hot tub and our men all kinds of things that have gone on with him he also might be the first pick in the two path next year depending on how the season plays out. And get some comments this past and that that were posted this past week in which most notably he said football and college don't really go together. And Michael X senior was put off I think to say man I don't put words in your mouth but that's where that we agreed to. Option if you ought to get off to let out a bit off that line of all football and and academics and college don't mean you can't do bowl. When there is a a a long litany of thousands of of people including an academic all American sitting in my left who did Dubow. Including Josh Rosen never say you can't doable right so they don't go to gather so they don't which the compares the that we got brought up a lot was people work full time jobs and go to college and I'm pretty sure if you ask those people do these things go together they'd probably say no. But they probably say they would read a book they can. My point is he never said you can't do this he said they don't go together well. But he never should you can't do it and that's what everyone seemed to wanna make it about which had a problem. I what was your problem. Because that's disingenuous and knocks off a good point who's going look at the body that interviewing tell me he wasn't knocked awful place he was going. He was asked about talking about the fact some guys just really are caught out for college. And are brought their because of their ability and athletic. And many ass wait you mean some people are supposed to go college that was dissent that was the sentiment the next question. And what is the kid with a background of Josh Rosen who comes the not too dissimilar from ought to come from a background we come from a bit of money and your position were a lot of work you know I've got. A background and understanding the ability in the tools to use my academic career to the utmost potential of it. What does a guy who's in that position whose party kind of seen as maybe a little bit elitist because that background say when he's asked that question wait some guys don't police don't belong in college how does he sound if he says yes to that question. Probably not very good and especially doesn't reflect very good his peers who we clearly cares about based on the rest of these statements squeeze out there advocating for all the rest of the statements so we get knocked property says the Internet can begin les blowback here. And we all attached to that one idea that these two things don't go together and we make don't can't. And go down a whole bag warms that is not the point of the sentiment of what he was talk well. What we have we had agreed on and talking some of the things he said do some guys you know maybe don't wanna go to college I absolutely do some guys get pushed through an easier class is absolutely. I mean we we completely did admit that. But I I still I still even the premise of of don't go together and I can't go together they have been. Maybe they have been for years I meet people have been able to do it and too well last I checked. You know a guy like Andrew Luck was an engineer major we've seen in my room roles of the world go along. For a scholar Rhodes scholars we've seen and then I'm done I'm picking just a troubled what has happened over and over and over again so it can't be done. And can be done well. I understand above just because things have been done over the course of a long period of time doesn't always mean there is the right way to do things and his point was. His point awful event Alyssa I openly said he misspoke I heard Damien say the same thing with you guys probably could've chosen his words to better as a twenty year old kid is a good easy way to mark Allen Jamal Adams. You're very early on a low stakes environment that choosing your work Droid is okay. But we Jamar Adams we're all cool comfortable saying you know he was trying to get that here we don't seem to be willing to give Josh that benefit of the doubt I'm very curious as to why. I think it's because it's something that kind of upsets the establishment will be no I listen I. I I understand what you're saying but but even. I'm not saying he said they they can't do it he said you you you can't do it or camped out even how he meant that I disagree I guess that's my point so. I'm not taking it further than saying it can't be done. I'm saying the way he's shown that the intent he met. I don't agree with I mean what's the better way what will not be in ten to imagine this is the way I took him taking an in context with the other answers. Which is you look at the intent behind that these things don't marry a very Walt together already used himself as an example he's typical graduate three and a half years and pursue an MBA. But because of football and academics and you know Burke class is you can always take you got to move things around choices you have to make a choice yet it which is fine. That's example used to say it's typical for me and I'm a guy who has these plans for a rifle right. Look at some of my teammates were less equipped to handle this load academically look at what some of them are pushed into an ask did you big war on the same schedule as meat but not operating with the same tool bag. And all he asked is why can't schools do more to help some of those guys out why can't they take a more active interest now. He doesn't have the answer he doesn't need to I am curious as to because listen we all went to Notre Dame we see that help. They offer you bear I'm saying that's not everywhere okay purport it to me to develop it it's not everywhere but I mean what what is what is universal everywhere I mean that the intent is to help. And it can't as as as Nick Saban said. We take guys yet who maybe would struggle and we put them in a position to if they can AFL. They have a degree you know will help them along the way now that's some of that certainly can be disingenuous I get it because there helping them on the football field. But if they didn't have football where would they be so at least it's giving them a chance I'm not sure. All everybody who is agreeing we're Josh Rosen what you're answer. Everybody you know over a 100% of all colleges to what the right way gimme a break nothing happens you know in a vacuum that way. I understand nothing happens a vacuum that waiver to ignore the beat the meat of the bell curve on this as we can bring up my eye rolling Andrew Luck and me and all these guys would be individuals are out Myers on this right. The meat of the bell curve of the bunch of guys who probably are qualified to be where they are who don't want to be aren't equipped with what they are. Like think about that too like I came from background because you guys -- understood and valued education right guys that are coming up just trying to make sure that their fans they can take care of their family however it's possible so let me ask you quickly what she answered that I'm not saying you have to have an answer Josh wrote the twenty year old kid of course he doesn't have the answer pointing out a problem and saying something is wrong doesn't make in the bed I guess I'll ask -- I mean what what what's the problem you get you guys OK maybe ours equipment they're getting scholarships are being important position. I bet they're getting and a lot of times this sometimes we use this against them. Skated through imported easier classes and how does that help them on the back and then if you go in America's the idea of a degree is great we're even seeing that that's not getting regular kids the returns on all without a doubt there are so many guys get a degree do something completely else or whatever they learned that the alerts are completely new I agree with no more don't work the process your putting kids an easy classes and pass them through just so they can stay on the field which. I cannot coaches for an administration fundamentally either because they've got jobs and families defeat. You've created an industry in college athletics that's a multibillion dollar industry were all of these other people making money and have that real life steaks on the line. And just because you've paid the student athletes and IOUs and asked them to accept that on the back and doesn't mean you can screw up the process in the middle and just say what we're giving you this think it's sort of a promise that something might happen but warned then we're not going to put the value in the meat of that process were belong but isn't there isn't there a responsibility of a student at some point as well perhaps there absolutely is but one that responsibility also dropped what they're because you're still sitting football you definitely want to play football right and so when all your coaches and those people on double liner saying listen. Not a not so many words and you dealt with this in Philadelphia and I dealt with this to a certain except when you appear to have outside interest and wanna put your time and effort and other places not always receive right well right and so when you get those message from a coaching staff but the thing I came here to do the thing I love nothing my best skill set is and might be infringed upon because I want to also explored the second half of things how is that supposed to incentivized to do want to go out there and do those that Michael Michael presented by progressive insurance are guess in the shell potential performance on a really. Good discussion. What I would just add to it is might as senior in response to what you're saying what is the answer. What Mikey is pointing out here is. If you listen to everything that you just described how do you describe the situation accurately what do we actually have here we are making a business transaction. This is a business like agreement to that is being made. Between a seventeen year old kid and a university but the actual benefit that has been received by the kid with apologies to all of the people who graduate with all of his debt I. I understand. That you don't want to hear this but the reality is the agreement that you're making is by no means equitable to the kids they have no option you have no choice if you want to let any chance to play professional football in this country you have no choice but to sign that scholarship that's what then. And that's it that's why if what's the what's the lesser of two weevils here not let them go to school because of their other skill set an end and have them go easier classes say you know what. You can't go to school and our guard up. Well do whatever you wanna do what those are what those are the only two options whatsoever what you are the other option is for the universities hold up earned the bark more than you about 85 full ride scholarships to kids on football team. The goodness of their heart right universities getting something I want to return so I get I get so that just that's my point is when we talk about other people who say what normal students are getting this that the other the university doesn't have an investment you draw not making that university money you missed it all the time no one lining up in stadiums to go watch a ten lap and that's on a knock on member schools not getting things out of you so the least they can do is make sure all right we've got this agreement were going to live up fully to it for you because if you don't live up to a full on you're in his student athlete what do they do more often than not what they find -- -- to get shot I -- kids they -- -- also by the -- don't -- -- -- all of the restrictions that are placed on all of -- varsity athletes which are. Which are numerous and in many case is ridiculous that no listen that's true or something that needs to be dealt with I get it. But I I just the whole process to me is. What's better. I understand that I got better available right now. Brother could be better girl look I was available I don't know I'm talking about the general of 88 student 888 athlete coming to college maybe not as well equipped as others as well equipped as you're Josh Rosenberg Andrew Locke soma not as a quip as well Myron Rolle. Still the option to them is better than the alternative. I guess that's reported doesn't mean we can't try and fix some things and make them better. But still right now all we kind of it's like the marijuana thing we all think of marijuana should be legalized everywhere sold but the bottom line is it's still illegal and you can't get test positive for so that doesn't mean we shouldn't be sitting here saying legal I don't know about that but and that's why I'm so glad to adjust. Rosen is I don't let's say that's all Josh Rosen did his point out say you know what and abet the thing about and why it resonated so well for me is because he wasn't talking about him. He was saying this problem that some of my teammates do with guys and I'm sure he knows other places that are taking is good care of you academically as usually there are giving you the help that Notre Dame is that they don't really good job with Brack that he knows guys are doing that so I don't know why he's the bad guy for pouring out what a lot of us all the rest of us have just because he's inside the system now we generally don't tend to respond favorably to college athletes. Voicing strong opinions but just nothing happened Sam Arnold and this is not a knock on him probably going to be the number one quarterback right not to you know what that's Josh that's what he does that's not what I'm about I'm just here to political ball and people laugh riot act did people love the kid it's just a lineup he's gonna be appreciative of what he's got. And that's good enough for most people are just says you know what this could be a little bit better I'm not saying it's terrible now I'll be came out said he was living in squalor and justice. Are done on all he did not at some of the points instead worker or. I I guess just his overview I had an issue heartless pause on that thought I'd love to get back to it as we continue Mike Mike again presented by. Progressive insurance or guests on the shell potential performance on. 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After December 15 and there will be before and also bock. I read it gave McManaman story about our re not for a three day stretch in the playoffs not talking to any of his teammates at all I mean it's. That was a strange out to god outlawed that that really want to. That's got to be interesting to do not have any association with. With teammates are in play out gathers again as is apparently James Jones who was a former cavalier telling who's now working in the sun and front office I would talk about the possible trade to Phoenix. He told David Letterman quote he saw Terry Irving in the playoffs this year and between the first round when they beat Indiana and the second when they played Toronto. Coke consecutive days without speaking to a teammate in practice. It's one thing for people to go through your ups and downs during the regular season but when you get to the playoffs the main thing is the main thing and were Brothers and we're pulling together to get this thing done. Maybe that's the sort of thing that happens from time to time and we just don't know we're following that there's so much that happens behind the scenes that that we are not going to know about. Where you think everything is everything is good and it's really Maine now but for a to a big fat that is really something else. So anywhere rev legal trouble getting a hold the world hope we will get him for you shortly in the meantime and the guys are calling shift you may have a news source. As well also will work on that and of course a lot of reaction is coming in at. To our conversation with Michael junior which. As he frequently does. He take the reasonable position and one of the many things like directors and is that. He's not yelling and screaming Josh Rosen right to require you listen and he's saying people aren't paying attention to what he's actually saying and it makes more sense than it would appear. And the only thing I'll say about the whole amateurism system the whole way the whole system is set up. I understand that we look at it where it is today and we look at what we consider to be reasonable alternatives and we say. While it's better than those that probably use. But who like to look at things is everywhere just to start the system now if there was supposed to talk we will have a system we decided. Football is becoming really big. I'm Dylan college. Let's start the system from scratch. Let's sit down get about I'd really Smart people started from scratch out of the anywhere in the world we wind up exactly where we are well. Idol and some of the rules just but the overall are based student athlete who maybe isn't as well academically inclined going to a college Joseph I don't think that's changing. I don't think the basic. Premise the foundation of what we see is changing some of the ridiculous rules that they have. But the actual. Hey you're the greatest high school athlete the world or or. Academic person the world but you're gonna go to college on a full scholarship to play football there's expectations there. I don't think that changes about it changes at all we would get back to that is I'm told shaft is ready to go and I'm gonna give him the floor here's. Our NFL insider Adam sure after with a on the shell Pennzoil performance line with a little insight into something we should expect to hear today shaft he what are you have. Well reporter Mike and Mike and essentially we got beat David I think a lot of people had expected all summer long and waited for all similar on an exit date that the NFL. Is likely to rule on it until LE investigation that it has been conducting for over a year. Now this is gone back and forth so many different times so I wanna purpose despite sitting. Serious informed and educated speculation but it is just that it is not actual reporting of action is giving you do the stuff that I've been able to pick up. This week over the last month or Portugal last year. Again we think the unifil Kabul today. We think he's gonna be suspended. We think it's going to be I think more severe. Than people think and the reason I say that is because you're there is the whole issue. The question becomes how is the week only to frame. The violation here is that looking at a particular Elliott. It domestic violence violence offender if it is and it says that it that effect. You can get a six game suspension. But that's what that the that the violence policy charge. And by all accounts that is what they'd been illegal and you remember Jerry Jones say. There's no evidence of any domestic violence in this investigation and this report. And that's where he gets into staying and gets back to the question of how to eat when to bring them. He results of its investigation. Packets out and not to think that there's a domestic violence. If you hear the critics and you're looking at six games now if they decide to go a different route. And they start to say. Particularly in my own personal conduct policy were eight accumulation of behavior would be very clear. The week hats and in fact considered. All the events that have taken place. Over the last year don't be confused by anything else so when I say that I mean any. Or infinity and by the way I think they're important and have been reported. We're talking about the woman unseen Patrick they report that are sure talking about being short and missed me eating. We're talking a literal belief is found. Believe he could just got to say OK you know what I'd and I don't do it you know we don't have enough evidence for domestic boat but there's enough here. For personal conduct. To see you good to get you for two games of work its order probably deterrence. It to win it. Exactly that domestic violence past. Nobody could well be dealt to abortion Jerry Jones particularly at. It's going to. So all there for being too. To what do what do putative. Right secret here's the problem. The league had a chance on domestic violence which rewrites and didn't get it. The only get a chance on Josh Brown on domestic violence. And didn't get it right expendable in game. And then a couple months later he journal surfaced. Witter's actual documentation about an abusive relationship. So don't mean he's wrong. And the weak don't even have enough evidence. And I don't know what they do don't have I know they met. Would key a key measure on multiple occasions. Okay so again there's going to be over very shots but it stayed error to the side of caution. Do you think anybody Oden Dallas Cowboys can be upset about that. Because they haven't done that in the past with previous domestic bounced cases. So to pull it together here. The bottom line is that we think there's going to be Iran today which it is going to be a suspension. And it becomes a question of how the league decides to frame. It's its domestic violence. Fairly black and white it's six games. Italy decide to go a different route to personal conduct. We can be anywhere from one to six games we don't know. And Italy this particular domestic violence throughout. We may be looking at a prolonged story. Because I'm sure but he Joseph Elliott Jerry Jones. You're legal team the Dallas Cowboys nobody perhaps that would just because they don't believe. In reading the investigation at the Liggett don't appropriate here. It did not in there to convict. Particularly for probably never been charged or arrested for. Okay LTD a more here. The point of the history of the article to that balance this investigation started when it because Elway was called into the pivotal first out west amber. What September. The next time he couldn. In December. 03 months later. And the only thing that really change America while there's other things I don't listen I don't know that you don't expect you noticed that Josh Brown incident surfaced between that time in October. And it would increasing criticism for all involved again. So again reading between the lions just written between arts. PC Kelly case that at first didn't. Up here. And that might match but maybe it ordinance. To guarding much more serious but I think at that point aren't and it continued we don't want to point were bitter secret only people. Delayed turn over evidence which delete this chase and do we want to ensure it gets right. Interior to date finally. August 11. We believe this can be a ruling and believe me the key question becomes how did delete one of slave Putin's. And so I'll say that that's. Rick that this is surprising. It's only surprising to me in the sense that this is not I think what we've been led to a right back Jack or for the weeks and months leading up to this thing but the last couple days you started to get the singling and there's atoms chapter. With the very latest telling you expected per potentially capping how we characterize that we expected today we we we we we know will be today. But I know I don't I don't know because I I've I mean. I don't know I don't know I believe it because that you know I believe it was this goal law. I believe once we get expert too late to be Thursday or Friday were the most he's about to put an addition we think you're. We think it'll be today our Jacqui thanks a million thanks very latest there that's at a shelter whether this. Again I and the shelter until performance line might in my presented by shell Pinto get instant gold status at shell to the fuel rewards program now out fewer rewards dot com slash gold. Again if they do decide to characterize this to classified if you will as a domestic violence incident and then the policies as an excuse well again the policy says it six games but there is leeway to make it Baltimore if it's egregious or less. If they feel they deserve less than we have seen that part of itself. While it says six as the headline. It can be less or more depend I will wait and see Mikey he'll rejoin as got a lot left to do here. Guys don't really talk about any her friend despite that in 91% of dove men plus care users recommend and here's what they said it blocks yeah. Frustration I think it's offensive and it's comfortable. So says regular basis though. Let's if I don't it's hard is quite masculine. You man's arms and I'm the worst thing at the gym. He's kind of like you're damn farm best guest dove men plus care any per Sprint Cup on swept not on skin. All the junior has rejoined us appear we will have Adrian. Which in our scheme or Georgia now Georgia announced he. A totally out of these are announcing that and he came I don't know impossible because it's so different from the way it's spelled it which is why can't you remember dog or genachowski war is always just called walled up more than just that it is kind of a misnomer of a nickname is just as silly as it may never does nothing about it that actually fits together but whatever. He's terrific and there's a lot of basketball to talk about and will join us in our studio. Coming up a little more than ten minutes from now but we want to get Mikey back for a couple more minutes just to see what some of the reaction was. To that they're really good heated and interest in this conversation we had about the Josh Rosen comment earlier this hour. And K tweet status to the point you made earlier Mikey Myron Rolle who senior brought up was a Rhodes scholar. Also our coaches say he didn't take football seriously enough because school was his number one priority how how commonplace is that and what if anything could change that. I mean may make the financials of this less beneficial to the coaches and everyone involved make the stakes lower because now it's that you know it's it's a microwave for the coaches to I mean we've seen this play out a number of places you'll get that many years to prove so you're trying to rely on these kids these eighteen to 23 year old. To go out there perform to keep you your job like. Tell anyone of those guys to make them prioritize cool in that same way when it doesn't benefit them Myron Rolle got to still play he was good enough to read no matter when he came back he was playing. It may have heard of at the next level that we're talking about all and it made her guys that are Josh Rosen or Myron roll talents who might be guys like me who were borderline starters guys that got to start you know 79 games in college career might hurt those guys a little bit more I'm not saying that's what kept me off the field Ryan Ryan bright thing that perception doesn't help you feel good about going out there pursuing those things you know this one Williams says Rosen is right football does not go with. College academics to a GPA is not a measure NFL combines art numbers are. I'll say to that is there's a 120 division one teams with a 85 scholarships at 101880. Players. There's 333 players that get invited to the compound. If you wanna give. Eight players per team. That have a pro day better approach to an average that's a little over a thousand which is right around the 1%. That make it to the next level. So we're again we're talking about a small number here I did I get it. That 85%. Wanna make it to the NFL. But at some point I have to be irresponsibility on the student athlete. Shoot those numbers believe those numbers and realize yeah I can work for this but you know I'd better I can I need to work in the classroom as well. It does and I don't wanna take away from the agency of guys involved and a lot of plays especially during you're given a lot of resources. And it's on you to make use them but at the same time Josh regular comedy made with. Look what happens if you raise the SAT standards and what that would do to the college football product he's Alabama's example could do the best team in college football. But how would affect the product there and the guys that prevent from going so what does that tell you. Durst sourcing from a talent pool of guys that wouldn't be able to qualify on their own. And so when your sourcing from that pool those are going to be the guys more likely to believe I'm going to the NFL especially all the way what does recruiting but people telling you this is how great you Warren can write write most of these kids have people around they're telling them out all the time and at some point. That seat in. Again people like me lucky enough to be grounded and have people behind them and the guys the due to say listen you've got to prioritize this. Because there's another way out I heard Dominik fox for his all the time. Get yourself except to sixty at a high level football you've got to be kind of myopic you gotta kinda have total vision. With a lot of these things and really put a rapper to it it's horror 2.2 utmost effort into both of these things something has to suffer and it usually academic yet many have done it I guess many and many of gotten through with ball you can't tell me you're putting equal effort into football school. I don't I don't. How much I understand that but also good that this side of raising the SAT scores and I I love Nick Saban dancers like wait a minute work. Getting opportunities I'll say it again right now what's the alternative if you don't. Have a player with the ability to get an even if it's for football. But then look at the doors that can open even afford if you don't play football not only for getting the academics but the connections that you get. By that school back and help you down the road what's your alternative sorry you don't make it go find them. Else to do and that's app right and that's why just that's not a viable option because a no one on the football side of this. Would willingly undercut their own product for the sake of academics write are part of the core of this front but also you're right you don't wanna take opportunities away from these cute. That desperately needed a lot of ads all your saying is do the right thing. Do help them make those connect know something even Notre Dame didn't do well when I was there on the team to join a lot better now running guys in front of alumni and helping them write but that stuff real life experience that you don't get being in summer school all year being Merrill through winter those of the things we can improve on those are easy way. There's a lot more in this and and it is part of a much bigger picture but it was a really good discussion have here it is good to have someone passionately taking. The other side from Mikey I agree with you the establishment establishment doesn't have an interest in changing this isn't working really really really well hell. For all the people who benefit by it and stayed there longer. Then three or four years and those people by definition don't have the same vested interest in changing it because they're gonna move just like the NFL the PA. Very similar like that a lot of these players benefit as well by going to college even if they don't make it to the NFL we're gonna break here Mikey thinks a million. And drug assured we'll be right. Fact I. OK keep your Clinton McCain I wanna assure you my first ever painting RA okay. Over here. Oh. Tell. Owners didn't do it and she Sylvia asks what do you think. I I like Powell. If he risked a guy could you could save hundreds of dollars on car insurance yeah that's that it's true. Here why don't I pulled European press will you call them. Geico B key hitting 13% or more car insurance is always agree to answer.