Aug 23, 2017|
Houston Texans Head Coach Bill O'Brien joins the show & talks about the QB competition going down in training camp. Plus we continue to get the latest on the Kyrie trade
Adnan reviews First Man (3:01) and Vox Lux (13:56), chats with Oscar nominated actor Robert Forster (15:30), and discusses one of the best spin offs ever (36:26).
The guys talk about Vontaze Burfict's dirty hits before rejoicing that the NBA is back with ESPN NBA Analyst Doris Burke. They also talk with Paul Finebaum, Joe Thomas & more.
The guys talk with 10-time Pro Bowl T Joe Thomas about Vontaze Burfict and Le'Veon Bell before talking with Texans CB Jonathan Joseph and more.
The guys talk with ESPN NBA Analyst Doris Burke about the start of the NBA season before talking with Paul Finebaum about college football as the season rolls on and more.
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Whose name we love on to Asia as it and it's amazing the week from now is the awards show on the way that we already did that wouldn't have been rerouted there that finally we are that. But so we haven't got into other stuff yet today's odds do a little bit of that to where they'll give you some more reaction would do off the top. News show withdrawal catch up on a few other things Mike Aaron judge didn't strike out. Which is remarkable snapping a streak of 37 consecutive games in which. He had yeah he is now to hide where the pitcher and bill Stallman who until everyone started to do the same things struck out 37 consecutive games. The reason it hit one of the reasons it didn't strike Carter's walk to three times he had a nice I had the play the only swung and missed. One time. In this I think it's the lowest since the the all star race and did you see Joseph Girardi took them out of the gate yacht late in the game he would have had at least one more at back. And Girardi said afterwards he denied that he did it for that reason he didn't even think of the fact. And you're just trying to and in Joe's words get him off his feet. Do you believe that do you believe they took a matter of the game just the strike out streak could end and they wouldn't have to think about it and I do I I find it hard to believe that that wasn't on the mind adapter are they had a big lead at halftime and and tell anyone where another doesn't start out. We get to a place in baseball where that would be news and in this is definitely news Mike UFC light heavyweight champion John Jones has failed a drug test again and yet he has he's this a third time he's been suspended 2015 he was suspended. Six months for hit and run arrest 2016 the year for the failed drug test now another failed drug test so. Howard imagine that same drug is situation. He's going to be gone for released here again as I said you watched this guy fight. You're just he has pollen for Paul one of the best fighters like seeing in this sport yet. He just I can't keep itself off the drugs and out of trouble and had to shame it's a shame because. The guy's gonna have a lot of life left he needs to get that squared away about man in the ring he has gotten. I and when again they beat the pirates 85 but their day was not without some concerns. As they continue to when my guess quite a melting injury to they really do first to win there at Major League best fifteen and four in August they'll say the best record. In both June and July so we know what they're doing but we know Kershaw has been on the shelf. We know Alex Wood who went on the show Courtney Ballinger on the shelf on the DL bald they've already used the DL 37. Times this season the most in a season since data was first were courted. In this in 1988 the previous record was 34 times the DL would you by the 2012 Red Sox so. As I say that we're we talked about this why eurocard ever there is favored as the cubs were going in. To the post season last year but man you don't have you know you're in you know either pitching. Kurt shock coming back from his situation Alex would going on the DL. We know he'll be back but that that's a that's a big questions for them I think I heard Kevin winters say this morning their magic number is seventeen. It's August 23 and their magic number you know what. And in all honesty so what we know they're going to go to the playoffs we know we're gonna have the best record but will it mean anything if they can't finish his deal won't mean a thing. If you don't get on and how you're. To Randolph. Off the top. The cavaliers we spent the entire first hour on at this morning trading Tyree Irving to Boston for Isiah Thomas Jae Crowder. On days visage and the mets' number one pick next G sold this offseason Danny Ainge got a couple of all stars Gordon Hayward. And Kyle Irving the last time you got two players coming off an all star season I know what do you know it well I mean it I mean unless it's not the obvious well it's the obvious 12007. When he traded for Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen to remove that culminated. In a championship anything is pop. Out to Mike presented by progressive insurance they'll compare rates for you say you get the best deal even if it's not. With progressive saving you time and money now that's progress of call or click today Danny Ainge. They did just again need is a guy who not long ago was being significantly criticized. For having accumulated all of these assets and done nothing with him right they didn't get pulled Georgia didn't get Jimmy Butler. Well now all of a sudden. In the span of a boom boom it feels like. They get Gordon Hayward and they get tiring urban areas last night talking about the deal and how difficult parts of it were to make. It is a high price tag it is a great value that we are giving up glom. We we love Isaiah and love Jae Crowder but you know acquiring it as 25 year old perennial all star. Players you know it's our timeline for us. And it is it is a fantastic up for the players run the best offensive players in the league they you have to pay a heavy price we love the guys that we're here. And we didn't really wanna give up any of those pieces. To make this deal work but we're excited to have. Carrie. Listen this that this is for the future move. Of high res 25 Heyward who's 27 the youngsters in Jalen brown and Jason catingub pork for its 31. But you have still to depict the that Laker pick could be two to five. Next year this is a building team. And I know nobody wants a hero were basically gonna throw in the towel until LeBron is off Cleveland on the east but. I I'd like. What Danny Ainge is doing and I like that the position he's in and I like what he's doing moving forward. To take the mantle from Cleveland one LeBron isn't on that team I anymore whether it's after this year or our next York couple more years but the key component here while they still have some assets is. Can they recite Tyree a two year. I also believe firmly. That what Danny Ainge cannot say for obvious reasons it is. We had made up our mind normally aren't going to keep Isaiah because fares are right we're not gonna get 200 million dollars to a guy who's going to be thirty with a bad hip. And and he's my foot nine right I mean. Isiah Thomas can't do anything about being five foot 92 exactly right but being five foot nine. It just it does matter it it doesn't make no difference and right now so you could be given him the money or you have the chance to give a guy will be 27 in carrier Irving. That money in a couple of years. Mom and aunt and we'll see Graco is now Kyra he's gonna have to wanna be there you have a choice in the matter so Stewart adds up Sean grandy meanwhile has been doing Celtics play by play for some time. And he was talking about how people are reacting to this as it was a beloved player in that organization. Here's the reaction from the Boston side. I think everyone here or stunt that's a real head vs heart thing right now in Boston because of the attachment. Beyond just what a great player I play is what he did last year the emotional attachment to Austin attaches to its they would out. Is it was it was a real it would be an it was built a black and this works out or. Look let's understand again what he did the regular season especially in the fourth quarter they get into the post. Losing his sister in the car at all until I mean let's let's not forget that in the emotional hole that took him what he went through with that. And then the injury as well that's the heart. And I guess that it do you can be beloved put the head says. Not pay that got 200 million dollars. And now we don't have to worry about doing that and carries a guy we won't pay 210 million dollars. If he's gonna stay here and a couple years tire is younger and you know I would take it must and is is there. I was about to say better are you comfortable saying carrier ring is a better player than donating the only way back imported as if you give me the choice of those two players. And 200 million dollars. Or ten dollars who I'm taking I'm taking carry me to a big irony to it I don't exclusively because Isaiah Thomas is five put any any Jenny can do nothing about that but you know what this is a business and you have to look at these things is it. Head and shoulders above Isaiah Thomas now I get it I understand that but you give me that choice on pick and I read any younger. I think Harry has gone through some some some injury situations but that plus this tip his hand out there and Isiah Thomas as well no surgery let's see how it comes back from. What are the bulls to remind me. How many spots. The bulls moved up in the first round in the Jimmy Butler trade in my remind me of that Tobago. They move up eight spots nine spots something like that how you feeling if you waking up this morning in Chicago. Huge data Jimmy Butler. Who still had time left on his deal now and is and is every bit the superstar caliber player. The carrier Irving is he's not the score curry is buddies he's probably all around. If he's not as good a players Perry he's darn close you moved up nine spots in the draft. To get at at two different and that's what you got burned and basically what you got. For Jimmy Butler. And and and Paul George that it won't talk about now George only had one you're Lebanon right he'll know there's a difference airport Daniel look at what Cleveland got my. Goodness I mean that's where you say the cavaliers are ordinary winners in this. I understand that of the bulls also got a couple of players but they're not players and they're not players would you rather have is that living Chris Dodd or Jae Crowder. I like you're probably true. Makes you. I mean Levine and done I don't think a terrible first year right in the terrible injury right he does what and let's see what they we are they caught wind up being graphically Howard being better players there are rolled the dice and moved up nine spots. For Jimmy Butler for Jimmy Butler. Paul George and on talk about. And so to meet the cavaliers come out of this enormous winners yet just enormous well just when you when you putting against the backdrop of what others have gotten for for for great where they got patrol people and and Arvydas sabonis my son bright. I mean that that's that's who they got four forests. That is why you know it's odd and unfamiliar and other members Arizona and a any guy to get from good Zagat or I guess so yeah I mean is it. Eight. For Paul George out of that was only one year and so that's different but cannot. I mean that's rich and comparatively speak I thought that Cleveland was gonna get fleeced. Which is why I thought Donovan was gonna hang on it Tyreke and force his hand which again goes back to how much was this the any gains not wanted to go through. Do I give Isiah Thomas all that money in a fight don't what sect or to look like this he's beloved here in Boston. I think that our way out of this just a double win it's a way out of this and I get carrier back and rule OK I I know I need to sign him and a couple years but I got a couple of years the cavaliers have twenty players currently on their roster and you know every one of their names. That's that now they you know on days is pitched they eat they know that you know the name of every player on the eighteenth. They're gonna have to pare it down at some point they do it to where reasonable rotation but they're going to be. So let's just say they're gonna be good there obviously were already good. Let her represent the East Asia tour and the only question is it do they have the firepower offensively than defensively to go to school instead you're putting door and laid on that team I don't know how well I don't know I would be comfortable saying he's going to be a piece of that puzzle so. Are we are we counting as they're Thomas is healthy. If Isiah Thomas that is LC and its continued we are are ahead of Derek wrote yes right yes sir you've got a rose coming off your bench and his writing down names Tristan Thompson and Kevin launching your starting five. You're starting five I want at whatever point it is they get Dwyane Wade is LeBron James Dwyane Wade Isaiah Thomas just in time and Kevin Love. Coming after graduate I've Derrick Rose you have JR Smith. Kroner you'll have crop art forgot about Crowder and you have visage so is this such as adept at a piece that people like he's a big can be in the rotation. So bad debt and and we haven't even mentioned a bunch of other guys who were still on that TE Kyle Korver to mention him no I didn't shooter just come off the bench so I mean you know they're good at. They probably will have to trade some of these other yeah idea. But one way or another they are they are loaded and I mean that if they are going into this thing. I think better suited to give a broad net. To the Golden State Warriors which is Isaiah Thomas is healthy and they get Dwyane Wade now which is exactly what their job needs to be right now all the runs on the team and look what happens like in my baseball season's crawling along at. And we've got action for tonight Astros at nationals presented by indeed dot com coverage begins 7:30 eastern. On ESPN radio ESPN radio dot com and on the ESPN app. I will be mostly covering the strait where this more because obviously that's the huge story. There were a couple of other things out there that we wanted to be here I'd like to hear the sound bite do we have the records and somebody as I don't get up on my screen. So I can all right nevermind I do you are different line article went in as the president of the NFL players association. And we understand that we are all in paid to the mattress is tough talk kind of mode which is a delight or who doesn't want that for years before collective bargaining agreement and is to hear the league and the players association yelling and screaming about a work stoppage that gets noticed his four years away and is exactly what fans want what is season began. But anyway whatever so Eric Winston whom we get on many times as we have and I generally like the biggest heart is in the right place. Yes agenda he sometimes I think to. Chooses words in ways that I think works again him I don't think that. He's making the point he thinks he's making them so let's hear this and I'll be cures to get your point. Or your perspective on this and I haven't I've read the comment I haven't heard them wanna hear that yet don't you read them for face value and you're gonna get the impression I think your getting a lot of people let's hear what Eric Winston NFL PA president said about the future. Of the NFL. Obviously I don't care and I don't think because those long term care whether those things or be around twenty years is emotionally planned. So do these guys hormone for a long time and they don't for a long time but. In other works offers weren't quite sure won't do the same guys are carriers program players' votes just aren't really my concern I don't think it's any of these players concerned David. So so you hear that. And you initially think I think what you think and a lot of people do is other skies just cares about the dollar he doesn't care about later the future of the game. The future players of the game and you're useful street fighting for the players now and and trying to lay ground work for the players in the future that's always the thought process. And so I understand when you say sometimes you choose your words wrong and I understand because that's it he actually put out either aren't answer grammar Twitter kind of a clarification. Of what he meant. And basically he was putting the onus on on the owner's saying. Listen we're going to be done playing. You wanna keep owning for decades. You're going to be dealing with the issue issue you're gonna go on strike again or your and have a lockout again you're gonna kill those Goldman goes knock in effect Mir the guys right now can will be out of the league by that. So all I get what he was saying it wasn't as cut and dry with a lot of dividend what happens later on I'll be gone. You what's in that way but I can in this day and age of headline. Wow look at that headline and then don't read any further into it. I can see how people would say waiter and how can he say something like that but I I understand his deeper meaning to an endless and there's the news now that that that. You know garbage in mid may not even be in closing the Indians glut could connect and I'll I'll I'll address that hope. You know it it. Roger Goodell is gonna sign that extension we talked about this when you're on who's gonna order 2019 a five year extension one of the things about that is he's now going to be the commissioner. During the CBS it's after the 2020 season so you're talk in the offseason in 2021. Is when they'll be negotiated and she BA. Now we know the one power person will be in place. More Smith. He was the started to be the the run in the union owned nine and he said to win an election every three years the last election a lot of thought Troy Vincent. Was gonna unseat him in 2015. There's another election in March after this season 2018. And then they'll be another one in march of 2001 while we'll be right when negotiations are going up. And there is a gentleman named Cyrus marry. Who's a civil rights lawyer who actually teamed up what Johnny Cochran years ago and really jumped on the NFL about minorities and head coaches. Some right after that the rule year old Johnny was instrumental that he's one NCs one big cases against big companies and he now wants to challenge to more Smith. Again this this is months away. This election months away. And and he says in the last negotiation that two more so as a part of the players went backward economically they gave Roger Goodell blank check on power. So he wants to run against a more Smith so that kind of weighing as well. On the union of who'll be leading the union going into this because it's so far away. So that the specific error my thought overall on this screening is. I I I don't care about and the talk. Any of the top L I heard people say this is one of some of the toughest talk we've heard art of the union doesn't matter because you know what in 1987 you know we did we. We not only talked tough. We walked out. We walked out in 1987. Regal left. A wildcat strike we left we thought we wanted to leave the owners were gonna leave a little lurch so they get replacement players everybody mocked that has a good time when that. I'm holding a sign I'm making 90000 dollars a year thrown stones that they had replacement buses when the players are coming and hold on my side being in my group and union guy what happens. All the rich guys in the league crossed the picket line. So that was our way of words our unity and let's stay together let's fight together. You know you can talk all you want and I listen I hope. That the players get all the way better deal than this time but I wanna hear the talk when you're that tough talk to that doesn't mean a damn thing. Until you get to where you need to get to everybody they need to have a plan going into this and then if you really are our. Our stock our horror. You really have those things in mind that you want to get done then you've then the next thing is resolved and you know what talk means and nothing. Means nothing talk from both sides I don't wanna hear talk from either side I'm so disheartened. With the union and with the league and their inability especially the main guys to get along. You gotta fourteen billion dollar business that you can't seem to figure out to get everybody on the same page so earlier in the talk or hear Eric Winston what the tough talk like Eric Winston a lot. But I don't want here. What really can be doing in 2002 point 2021. But I it would he's a Smart guy and he can be part of the solution here but I need to hear that talk and pioneer of talk from the NFL either a neat to see action. Because at the end of the day you can talk all you want but when your backs pressed against a wall and a player now has the mid game check. Then you're gonna find out the resolve of just how strong you are and how strong your leadership this until then don't wanna hear it. What we did it they should be working on bettering their relationship like Adam silver Michelle Roberts is set of damning one another until we get to it so. Everywhere they say they can partially paid on one another and then nobody gets football I I'm just part of the whole thing. Sorry for the rant but it just aggravates me you said it better than I could have so I I will not add to what I have a few other thoughts that actually are. On on that that's the root of it where you're just at a hundred and yeah I would I'd rancher quits and I think he can be part of the solution here but. The tough talk on both sides it needs and does that mean zip. Where Mike in my represented by a program of insurance are guess appear. On the shell Pennzoil performance line let's update the poll quickly here and take a look and see where you're going have it up on my Twitter page at ESPN greedy. Which side do you believe got the better of the carry Irving trade right now I've got almost 9000 votes in two hours left to vote 56%. Say they think Cleveland did. 44%. Say they think ball and I wouldn't I would pick as well but I it's a tough. Question it's it's actually a simple question but it's not a simple answer so why answered it in the now. And then now I say Cleveland but in the future could very well be bought sports fans anywhere can earn a nationally recognized degree from Penn State own mind whether you're starting or finishing your degree study where and when it's convenient for you. Cheers from more than 125. Programs to become a top prospect in your field and advance your career. Learn more at world campus info dot com. Penn State world campus a world of possibilities. On mind. Visit world campus info dot com today let's world campus info dot com. Guys don't really talk about any her friend despite that 91% of dove men plus care users recommend and here's what they said the blocks yeah. Frustration I think it's offensive and it's comfortable. So zest flexibility is well. Plus it's I don't it's hard I think is quite masculine. You man's arms and I'm the worst thing at the gym it's kind of like you're damn harm to its guests from dove men plus care any per Sprint Cup on swept. Not on skin. I we might get my card check of stories and headlines begin with the deal done cavaliers trade Tyree Irving to the Celtics for. Isiah Thomas Jae Crowder on today's his age and the nets' first round pick in 2018. Feels at least to this point to both of us like a trait that could well benefit both sides cavs did very well for player everyone knew they needed to deal. Celtics we think didn't wanna commit long term to Isiah Thomas. They get carrier ring John Jones failed a drug test party USC to fourteen says Dana White is the second positive test. A Jones career and congratulations Albert Pujols hit the 610 home run of his career and a 101 win. Over the Rangers in sports and with Mike Mike has brought to you by straight talk all our other wireless providers say they're gonna cut you gonna happen who knows what kind of coverage are gonna get straight talk Warren Michigan nationwide coverage on America's largest most dependable forgy LTE networks. And no contract unlimited plans only 45 dollars a month all right a lot of Twitter reaction to go links thoughts on the players' union issue in the National Football League we'll get back to that. We're gonna below Brian head coach of the Texans coming up and just demanded it euphoria here but first and foremost all this reaction. To the big NBA trade Jermaine tweets out as curry is better than everyone involved that first round draft pick could come back to bite them buy them of course. He means Boston we had Jeff Goodman on sang that next year's draft is projected to be absolutely loaded. Cola has made the point all morning long the Celtics and cavaliers could wind up meeting in the Eastern Conference finals again next year. And then they could right after that have the first and second picks and literal which everybody else in the east is just it collectively Thorpe our hands and and go find a cliff. Bradley Wall Street Tennessee guys taking into consideration that Isiah flourished under Brad Stevens offensive genius. Maybe won't be that in Cleveland where you don't know your blessing you're exactly right or whatever on whatever sport schori and if you gave up player who are successful put on another team and a different system you're not sure which are gonna get until that player gets there and an obviously the flip side of that is. Will Isiah Thomas actually be even more impact apple offensively with LeBron James on his team. We generally has made everybody better offensively. Throughout his career and then quickly before I bring in the coach there's another one here that brings up the question of because they did Thomas have to pass a physical and everyone knows he's hurt. Right they know about the hip they know where he is right the cavaliers obviously know that. Would you assume my doctors a better chance to see and they see the medical how does something like that or they don't I don't know normally when you do a trade that person has to pass a physical but you do know this injure so I don't know what else was talked about that. That's what it might look at it I'd be curious to just to see if that if that was somewhere a little noted how that worked out what is that the cavaliers right. What were they allowed to note they have just doctors or medical record Austin yet what whatever that maybe I don't know part one where another that is the big story in sports this morning but there's so much going on out there and let's get a turn our attention to a little football here one of the teams that. We've had our eye on throughout this pre season because of religious and quarterback battle has been Houston Texans. And their coach bill O'Brien joins us on the shell Pennzoil performance like coach good morning how are you today. Morning guys how you doing. I order a little while coaches obviously you've got you've got a couple quarterbacks they're in camp that everyone is watching savage we've had in the system for awhile to Shawn Watson. There's been a lot of early praise for him I surely have been very impressed with what. I've seen from him can you give us your view from where you were set and where they stand right now a couple of weeks before the season begins. Sure. You know Toms had a really strong camp he's. Like you said he he's been in our system for four years he has really good. No command of what we're trying to do you know look. The type that have always wanna run. You know changing plays at the line of scrimmage protection calls. You know he's he's been around for a little bit and he had a really good understanding of what we're doing he's playing well he's executing well I think he's only thrown. Three completions and two preceding games which got a pretty good and so then you have to show on who's coming here. And really done a good job of picking up this offense very quickly. You know he's been able to come in here and then improve every single day especially mentally you know that's that's one of the biggest things he's. He's been able to learn. You know let's just say he makes a mistake. One day at a very next day years even. Sooner than that and in a meeting you'll you'll you'll understand. You know right away what the mistake wasn't can help improve on that the next day so he's gone out and played pretty well himself self. I really liked the room that we have we have brand and we didn't and number three and get you know he's a great guy and fun got a coach and we've we've got a really good situation. Got loose and I think so before the draft sites that I think the Shawn Watson's best quarterback coming out. Of this draft it will see. When Victor when if and when it comes to fruition in Houston but with savage being the starter and I know your your top receiver Dioner Hawkins gave. Savage like public praise saying he's he's the guy should be the guy in and talking about him. I I'm curious when Hopkins does that publicly and he talked UH you guys at do you have discussions with. The receivers another offensive guys about it I know what your decision but. How often is that decision talked about with the other players like the under talked about a publicly. They haven't ever really talked to the other players about it he you know I think what would be under these seniors what we've seen him practice. For the last few years you know basically Tom as has had an unlucky three years he's been injured quite a bit he was injured his rookie year. I was injured the next year he was injured at the end the last year and you know that's going to be a big keeper Thomas. This thing you know to go but when he's been out there he threw the ball very accurately. He throws an all time leading. You know legacy that he had a really. Good grasp or of our particularly catch a ball he you know on the playing the thing about the young guys dish on this. He had a lot of listening quality we have different skill sets but it is Sean throws a very accurate ball and it's gonna be camp. Because the ball hasn't had been placed them on it in the right spots and I think that. That helps your team might you know I mean like when you have so quarterbacks back there that can take you throw a ball accurately. You know I think that helps everybody compete a little bit better. Completely green accurately doesn't just mean completion means throwing your guy open let him get yards after the catch I completely get what you say or talk to bill O'Brien head coach of the Texans. Another shift to work kind of seeing coach is. The the starters so a lot of ties playing less than these pre season games and more and more of teams getting together to practice during the week before the pre season games so. I've been trying to explain it on air but I obviously would much rather hear from you. A just how big those benefits are of having a few days of practice you guys that have done with the patriots this year. How that's becoming a bigger and bigger thing in the benefits from that. Yeah I can't tell you enough how much job. I believe in the joint practices. Last week when we are West Virginia the patriots came. And then we had a good two days of them and in you know it was good because you know our practice schedules are are pretty similar so. It it was a pretty seamless transition to go on from practicing against each other to practicing against them in week you know coach spell checking that aside and let let's just have a really good to. Fundamental days until two days of good fundamental tough hard nosed football. It was clean. They got both both teams I think have a real healthy respect for each other noble coaching staffs do and it was a good two days and now. Today we practice this morning and we're leaving this afternoon we're gonna go basically do the same thing against the saints we did it last year with when Sean. Peyton and it was it was awesome I mean I can't say enough about it in fact I I was talking to. You know a couple of retired coaches over the summer and then you know it's been going on for a while. And and I think. You know to me it's really a good way to improve your team that breaks up the monotony of camp that also brings routine together you know you're you're teen news. You know you're rooting for for the other side of the ball to do well you know which is different than when you're going against each other he looked a little bit different so I just I just thought I think it's a great way to improve your team. Mike and Mike and bill O'Brien coach of the Texans how. How would you compare the work you get there to the work the players get in pre season games this. One wonders with with the commissioner talking about potentially shortening the pre season. Could this be something that could lead to could could you deal with a one if you or even to if you were pre season game to forgetting more of this kind of war. Absolutely equipped do you just one man's opinion if I hadn't you know one vote I would vote for more. Joint practices you know I do I think in the preceding and I think. You know one of the things that we all. He'll basically you're trying to get your team. Down to a 53 man roster and that it takes about six weeks to kind of figure that output. Eat you know it's it's basically years may be much as they have clear 120 that you kind of know we're going to be on your team in minutes. You don't move whom are player 21 through 53. And in the preceding games are good opportunities for those guys but player worked through twenty you've you've. You've got to make sure that that those guys deserve our help you want everybody healthy I'm not saying that you you know you want everybody to be healthy for the beginning of the season. But you have to make sure that you're top players are helping these joint practices. You know that the scrimmage you're not a lot of it's more of blood type practiced and it's a really good way to improve your team and keep everybody healthy. All right Houston Texans head coach joining us here as far as. You deal with injuries yard loss for four bit we're doubly it was a collar -- JJ watt had missed time last year with his back and and coach I know you know injuries you you get in the attacks amount of time you get an elbow it's X amount of time and ankle the same thing. A back they say it's X amount of time but we all know the back it's such a tricky thing so how do you. Deal with that of the medical side saying he's good to go of course he wants to play and be out they're going as to. Man we really got to make sure this thing stays healthy the entire season. It's it's really a two way street and I give JJ a lot of credit meaning. You know we approached JJ and and you know not just me but our medical staff and you know we talked to them about look good news is how we're gonna. Basically have you on somewhat of a pitch count and then me and you guys know what JJ watt. You know this guy always watched bill on the field he he wants to be out there practicing in depth. He just got that type of motor in what he wants to be in the fray all the time and so. Coming into this this season any do you agree you know this is something that I have to do. The you know you have to talk to him about his policies are regiment but I know at least. He's changed that a little bit relative to what he did when he was a little bit younger creep back surgery. And the guys playing really well Mike I mean this guy is playing really at a high level it is. It's almost impossible to move the ball practice when he's in there. You know how I I don't remember our can't Dreamweaver RB like coach until like look it's like two or three reps and get him out we can try to get a first how the economy in the public. I mean guys playing at a high level. You know we've got a good defense we we we have a great bunch of guys on that side of the ball and you know actually it's been really good good strong kid because I think we're getting better offensively and I think our guys are really compete hard against each other. It's funny they left me in practice to give the opera got fanatic understood this kind of started a lot of good luck coach we appreciate the time it will. Take care bill O'Brien what is six coaches in the league. Two and at least nine games each of the last three seasons he's the only wanna do it with a different quarterback each year I didn't ask the first question while I was really trying to answer a question about. To Sean wants I was trying to ask you without asking. Like what do you need to see an order for Watson to become the harder I get a very poor job of asking that question. One way or another I like what I saw from want to and I do believe ultimately he's going to be the start there's just a way out of the way and agree and I I ask that question poorly but. When where another you got a lot you got down you got watt who who is coming back and let their. That division went from being a joke giving really it really did and you have so many people that that that do these polls that say the two best pass rushers on a team are cloning and walked. You know and so they they have a the past Hershiser would know the talent they have on offense but we see what Tennessee is doing as well. That that's that's an interesting division to keep and I am really busy morning again we have another head coach coming up today dirt cutter from the boxer got whoa John the big trade much more basketball as we continue curry Irving has been dealt to Boston. And your reaction after this word from ultimate software in sports every player on the team is valuable. 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Your getting the right mortgage for you to get started order rocket mortgage dot com slash Mike's. Equal housing lender license and all fifty states and MLS consumer access dot org number 3030. Now. He might have seen in reaction to. The cavaliers trading away carrier ring LeBron James had a very classy tweet not because we don't know if I thought actually beat everything about this tweet was genius. So one of these cavaliers fans puts a Jersey right carrier Irving Jersey on the ground has all right fans you know what to do and everyone assumes he's gonna set fire to a two way they did with the LeBron jerseys. And it just places a note on it that says thank you right. And LeBron James reached we did that and that's exactly the way. To react and everyone should treat him quote that's the only way to beat the kid special talent guy nothing but respect you wanna ride it was. Our three years together so okay you say that the when he comes back for game one the cleaver what happened that's gonna be my question do you October 17 NBA's opening night. It will be Boston at Cleveland will be carrier every morning I don't know what number a weren't Boston but it won't be true. Because who is retired for read our back so whatever number carrier ring is wearing an A Celtics green Jersey. He'll be wearing that in Cleveland what do you believe the reaction what they did he leave. Good bye bye for sort of he wanna leave he wanted to leave during a boot. It will be anything like LeBron risky back that I know that they're it would it will not but but fans are gonna anyone else. He was on a were in the NBA finals team. Years and years and are all won a title and he wanted out because he wanted to be that the man and illicit nets is right. To ask for that and Cleveland obliged it by trading him. But he wanted to leave. So all while that was a nice note on the Jersey and I get it I think I think when when that first night comes about and Kyra comes back in. Two the arena in Cleveland I think fans are gonna are sent you want it out to you want it out here to go and he's gonna get booed. I agree. Here's what I would ask you. What do you believe is the answer to the question that we will never know we met may someday someday may be carrier ring a lot of what a book right. About his life and his career earners autobiography he'll give me the true reason. But do you believe the true reason that he wanted out of Cleveland was that he just wanted to be the man on a team I don't know I get to doesn't feel right at him he would never have eyes honestly don't know and an error where guys are teaming up. He seemed to want to give away. From the team up but so I I don't know feel like I for the I don't know if there were what relationship I don't know and and I certainly that's not something I wanna speculate on because I'm not there you're talking about relationships and whether it's a professional relationships are personal relationships. I have no idea. I'll do it all speculation bureau has here's my speculation I believe that I read didn't want to be the last man standing on a terrible team which I think. Prior to yesterday they were going to become if LeBron James does leave a year from now. Hero is going to be the man honored awful to write it already was that he didn't but the guy you know what that's like and I I think he he has. Less faith in the leadership of the cavaliers. That he doesn't Danny Ainge and Brad Stevens now. Based upon yesterday I have more faith. In the leadership of the cavaliers Kobe Altman whose name owner never heard a month ago when he became by default the general manager of the cavaliers he did because they. Fired their current guide three days before the draft and then couldn't get Chauncey Billups to take the job. So Kobe Altman becomes a GM basically by default and he makes him in my opinion a sensational. Gig yesterday. So all based on that alone I actually have more confidence in their front office than I did. Prior to that. Having said that I believe that's the reason that every wanted to get out while the getting was good because once LeBron leaves. It's gonna be the last guy in the room turn the lights off and he didn't wanna be that if that's his thought. Process I mean you can yell as you could faulted you could say listen it's it's his basketball career. It's he has already seen the dark side when he's a leader of that team and it's not a good team. And if he didn't wanna go to back go back to that Soviet. You know that then you can understand it he could not understand you know it you can all have your opinion about it but if that were the reason. You know you could see the you could see the reasoning behind it right saying okay this is gonna go back to a bad team I don't wanna be that's normally get somewhere else so. We'll see we'll see out all works out what is the core. Now if your theory carrier ring is going to be at the center of the cavaliers accused me of the Celtics going forward. The core with which they hope to win their next championship. Will be tiring Irving are really Hayward and Hayward Palin brought in Jason Taylor. And whoever they get with the lakers pick next year that I'm right you're you're court as a net to be five your core could write three your core could be to your right before right that's the four right now that's a four known. Al Horford again is 31 years old. So we're talking about a young courts so for art will continue without. We got loads of the next hour Dirk out of the coach of the bucks to stay there might in my.