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You should play hard and through the whistle but he after what happened Monday night. With the juju Smith's suspension and the Georgia locus suspension. And what have withdrawn over the weekend let's just say Mike was confused and a little passionate about his confusion and he wanted everybody to know. This is not damp Obama when I was sixers though Watson. Charles Woodson rob woods in Vietnam that socks tailored to their hitters Jack Tatum. You know best football. This did the same football and you gotta know what the risk is any sign of no wants the be paralyzed no laws that have been injuries he's brought things that are negative. But let's not try to topple onto the dangers of barbaric game this is how I've changed my family legacy. Before I got drafted ahead drill a 68 Dallas my bank account that is far from the case today I changed my family legacy by this beautiful game of football. For forever so let's not have a turn into some evil dirty game it's football it's no different than you have seen fighting this is the combat context board. There's gonna be injuries. That's is what it is but it you don't wanna get into it and don't come out here this is for real menace the man's game Ray Lewis said that a couple of years ago I stand by the it's a man's game. You wanna be a little kid you don't wanna get and don't come out here is for grown men. Oh wow okay how I. Just part of of what he had to say by the Webber pitted some some other parts of it later but I think what he's speaking to really there's there's two faults there. I think people wanna know. What exactly they can again do. But I think he he also needs to understand at all what he's saying may be true. But I think the NFL whether he likes it or not is trying to would just that well to a new Rio Alyssa. That's the biggest thing and so what listen it's the way I was race I mean when when my dad who coached myself for my brother Gregor my brother Bob. I dead played football at in the Marines you play football on the Canadian Football League he was as tough as they come and and told us before we played all the things are gonna happen your break bones you're gonna get stitches are getting cut you're gonna get hurt you're gonna terror things are gonna break think it's gonna happen. It happens it's a tough sport. And he tossed a plays host or I tried to teach that. To Mike and Jake when they were coming up on playing football to play it as a tough sport to hit somebody as hard as you can you're going to get hit all the things that can happen to you and I get it. You know about it and I understand what he's saying about the sport that's how that's the thing that's how. I was raised I tried to raise Mike and Jake a towel Mike Mitchell was raised a lot of these guys are raids and then trading your point. It's shifting now. Because what happens is you find out I keep bringing this up. But when I was a kid we never worst seat belts. You learned it was a lot better and smarter to Wear a seatbelt you learned it was smarter to Wear a helmet when you're riding a bike which is something we never did when I was a kid. You learn these things over time that we're better we're finding out more and more about the game and the ramifications of its all. The league is taking a look again I'll leave that that's Seward and basically given up about a billion dollars off that loss to put also all we're finding out more information so. There are things you need to adjust some players don't like the adjustment don't want to adjust. And but I will say to his defense the hardest position to play in football now Mike is defensive backfield because it is kind of ambiguous word white hit a guy and tried to hear guys hear that all the sudden. This is level changes and now we had him here now. I'm 40000 dollars lighter in my pocket I understand that side of it but might cast to understand the game has changed some some people all white get. But it is change some and it's not going back to what it was because of some of the things we're learning. I think it's easier for former players and people on the outside to reconcile with that too like. Osi Umenyiora tweeted yesterday our players really this dominate disabled come on former players have died her dying horrible deaths because it had drama. You're complaining because the league is trying to take steps to at least reduce it quote make it flag football is ridiculous. So you have these guys but did your column Mike Mitchell this is self preservation. You have to have this mentality to survive playing a game as physical as this one is. And without it I I think you become less of the player that a lot of these guys pride themselves on being. So it's a difficult to adjust the wits ought to say all the time the adjustment you have to make in the strike zone on the fly with my target. The aid. Adjustment you have to make mentally with how you treat. The thought process behind some of those hits with how you treat the thought process of potentially holding yourself out if you believe you've got a concussion and doing right by your body physically in a way that wasn't necessarily apropos before. It's all something that's going to come slower than maybe everything else about these changes they look at eventually these changes have to not come with the NFL level have to come youthful ball level. Exactly her eyes were so you have to start for generations so these players are used to doing their way and a for a couple your dolls have been told to change to our talk about players being able to adjust. Listen this is good they're trying I think there are adjusting some but it's coming at a slower rate and they don't like the kind of the attitude adjustment out there. I think it is gonna take the next kind of generation through that are learning the game may be differ way to see how it ends up when those young kids are in the NFL. A trickle downs not gonna work its electrical all right in this situation it's always good window the podcast. Great way to go unlike Foley senior. It is a beautiful day a beautiful Thursday glad your hang out with us this morning go doing go on ESPN radio and ESPN to present a congressman assurance. All phone guess we'll join us via the shell pencil performance line. It is start to another NFL Thursday we got a lot to get to with the saints and falcons and a huge game for Atlanta. Which we will talk about. And we also have to be were recurring. Rant. Retribution if you don't receive the safety Mike Mitchell would. You yeah I mean what that listen this this is becoming a big thing the trouble because our number of people who who don't like. With the way football is going with dating and there's a number of people who do understand and I do wonder out there with football fans. You all are and where are you with this Q like seeing it trying to have less of the the hits that we have seen in the past or do you wanna see that more balky tweets I agree thousands without a percent would Mike Mitchell. Football's a tough sport I don't care how much Jaffa tries to make the game safer you'll never take injuries out of the NFL. It's almost certainly. A certainty that your regular pro football what you're right I mean we said that a thousand times you are correct. But that doesn't mean. You can't adjust to things you adjust to situations as they arise we are finding out more information. Especially about head injuries in football so you are just too that. I don't think there's anything wrong with that what happens is is what Vijay David and says he says it's getting more complicated. That's the thing so were adjusting but the adjustment. Is becoming complicated. Especially if your a linebacker or summer in the secondary and where you can hit somebody so you and I do. I understand and if that I played in an era I want that that though the play I remember the most was that every play I tried to dry just like my dad taught me. Try somebody I tried to teach my kids dry summer and are ground with a clean hit and if they get up. Then that's great if they don't that's part of the game that you accept it sounds harsh it sounds bad but that's the way it was. I tried to hit everybody's heart is I could there was a place where Emmett Smith was running on the sideline who along the sideline. And I shot I am and I was running full speed and I mean I I literally had time to think I am going to try and knock him out of his uniform I want to hit him. That part whether it was a minute in the shoulders the chest the head didn't care I was going to divert him. Door after him and try and destroy him now. I hit him as hard as I possibly could and it was like a boxing match three hits somewhere your best fought their best punch a mega had turned them and they look at you Nero or god. That's what happens I knock him I mean he flew flew a lot of violence didn't quite work that way you don't bounce right back up and Rana how I want him. But the bottom why there was a that was my that's the thought process that I had him I thought process you have playing this game. When you learn more things about and you need to adjust for some of the safety issues. That NASA happy you can't just. Keeps screaming out there'd be blood thirsty bloodthirsty bloodthirsty when you're saying wait a minute some of the results we're seeing now we're seeing later there may be tying together we're learning more about that so we have to would just. A little bit. I don't have a problem with that but again. Like you who were bowled to in my were flying out from 30000 feet now no longer on the field in the bank bank decision. And I think that's the problem is we see this in a lot of things and we saw this in a very different Romney what that players coalition dealt with and what the NFL deals with the CBA every year you always talk about. Representing the interest of the bowl of your players but the meat of the bell curve of players guys don't have the luxury of worrying about that Mike Mitchell. Said that he changed his family's life for ever in their legacy with the amount of money are made in football. And the most guys can only see that really only have that to worry about is how can I grab as much cash as I can in this process all they see as you lightening their wallet. For something they look at wonder. And that that's why people bring up this point is football's always going to be violent is the wonder is this in vain. Like as much of the NFL is doing this in an effort to try and make it look like there are about player safety and spinning this for most guys are asking themselves. Can you or is this just them lightening their wallets so they can spin this for PR. Because when you look at the fans and the people that are most outraged by this. I want to this a lot as someone who's certainly was a former players to look at it from a different perspective. We're also now in the media the media is about as much closer to the players from the fans. They were put these guys they meet them in different settings they talk to them learn about them as people so I think the media is a little more conditioned. See the humanity in these guys of course we feel slighted when you see that humanity compromised by the violence of this game but fans are detached even another level from that. And so to expect them to care in the same way. Is is probably a little bit misguided in most cases so you wonder who you're trying to please are you trying to please a fan base that may still be just as bloodthirsty. Or a media who was finally coming around to seeing this happen to people they consider friends and. Okay what was that that is absolutely the case because football is different than almost any other sport because you wouldn't know half the football players to be some on the street art because you're wearing a helmet you're wearing a lot times a visor over your face let's be honest as a fan you root for laundry. Okay you see these guys I was people using him as a widget you seem as a product. And that that goes into the draft and that's why want from my perspective on we do the draft we trying to humanize these kids their kids OK they're not out. Although block that you put into this hole that makes everything around us sort of work it's it there. We see them completely differently 'cause we relate to them we talked to them when they have that mask off and we have. That you know formal way in the bronze out their shorts everybody knows who he is you know. Baseball players the same way. You there's a difference in football because you see them. Not so much. A because of the nature of the sport but also. Because of what they where. They've they did they don't seem that personable to you while and then all of a sudden you see Ryan G easier down on the field may remind you that he's a new father and he's got a family and all of these things it just punch you right in the gut so when those moments come they are swift. And they are devastating the absolutely armed by the way there was some good news would literally you know they would write Jesus they were able to move him from Cincinnati and Pittsburgh. And you know he you have to believe that there had to be some sort of progress could the government do that are able to move and so will hopefully have more updates on Ryan she's here. A throughout the week or maybe even later on today we don't know but the fact that he was able to move from Cincinnati Pittsburg. Can be perceived as somewhat of rape of a positive sign a goal can we go presented by Amazon Amazon has everything you need for the perfect holiday get together. From whining to dining to reclining together afterwards visit Amazon today. Now all of this sort of what we're talking about was fueled by the Mike Mitchell rant which we talked a little bit earlier in the last hour. About how football is never going to change but to some of the frustrations you guys were talking about Mike Mitchell went on talking about it looked just tell me what I can and can't do and be consistent with a because that's the problem I have now. You know I signed a plate full speed contact football and we're not doing it I thought I gotta ask a guy hey are you ready for immediate you right now before I did you. That's crazy I'm gonna mess trying to get hurt trying to protect and Altman's the player because he's on and an overall. Deal quarterbacks in the at all messed up. That happened two years ago that's an I I'm I'm not joking about any don't to a volatile driver two years ago Tarver headed I'd for I was aiming towards gut. But if you don't I you don't give me that's fifteen grand out of my pocket though because any throws the bad ball an adverse or taken our money but now you know you are that. Like Matt Hasselbeck calling me a dirty player and I try my character we've never met before. We got to do better asset yesterday it got better as players we saw on the knicks he BA we got to get better leadership as who's run in the league because obviously everybody from fans owners players are disappointed and Roger Goodell. We just we just got to do better we can have a guy where you just. Handout this went on how you see fit their needs to be a sag got a lot of how we do what we do but I guess that man is still Muslim world well. The there's a lot to get into there and there's a lot but I think it is very valid and what he's saying there. I don't know how anybody plays safety now or linebacker anymore with with the shrinking of of the of the strikes don't look. He's right I mean that we were just watching that replay of that that that think two years ago on TV. That's a better from well I mean he's right with the Indy adult thing if that's a better throw that and maybe Tyler Harvard doesn't doesn't get hurt there and that. Changes the dynamic of what a player can do and how he's trying to stop and buy dot analysts and tile art to guy you played with you reject like Griffin and we all know very well and end. You're right that that pass hits him in stride that it gets him in the midsection and you know not in the head. But the DB is responsible for people say well you can't dive well I mean when your few yards away you have to make a play you know diving sometimes is a quicker way to get there. And I and put your shoulder RT your head up that it's such bang bang plays. I understand his frustration. I absolutely understand his frustration. And I don't know where the answer is going to be because there's the what the talk of now we've been more. You know the talk of possibly the targeting now it's not only lightening your wallet but getting. There's also that there's always a thought of lightening your wallet and being suspended now they're could be the father being tossed out of that game itself. If they go through this targeting rules so. I understand his frustration. I don't know you know brought the CBA I I don't know where that's going to go well because quite obviously Mike Mitchell is thirty years old. Betsy BA isn't even going to be in play for another three years you may not even be in the lead. There's going to be a number of guys that are complaining right now and I understand their complaints that aren't going to be in the week. So you're talking about. Who who would then is it's the younger guys it's guys who weren't even in the league yet guys who get in the league this coming draft are going to be in the league three years when this comes into play. So to different set of circumstances of guys that wanna get bearers now all before their Don as opposed to do we fight for the next guy that's coming up at IB. Or just in the opinion of gala June dismissed Shuster who suspension was upheld who's gonna sit one game for playing a brand of football would have been OK a while ago how does he view the way that this is all going down because I think. Just getting you know glimpse of the mentality of the guys that are coming up from going to be that next generation we've made. I taught a huge deal out of how young he is so he's a guy that probably won't be here no yeah project CBA and probably will be. Someone who is very uniquely affected by that. What is the mentality of the guys that are coming in right now that have been victims of this system in the way that we see in the system and Mike Mitchell's lamenting right now. Well that's a thing and I'm glad you brought that up because Hines Ward is a celebrated stealer not only for his ability to throw the wall but and catch the ball. The hits that he put on players. Like juju Smith Shuster just got suspended for and against the rules of change I understand that. And and you people ought to understand that that's the new reality those peel back block they don't want they don't walk those anymore but that was. What made Hynes port legendary Steelers those kind of plays. And to the point that Mike alluded to Mike Mitchell mentally Mike's here Mike Mitchell steeler safety and you might go to Michael junior expounded on. Unfortunately from my he's thirty years old and he probably in three years when there's new CB starts. I hope originally write about but your company safeties play thirteen years and here I mean yeah so then it becomes that's that's the battle of the players are never going to be able to win. Because they won't have a longevity. And the resources. And hold out the way the owners can't it's billionaires person Mitt millionaires it's never fair. That's from that never verified that's the macro and I get his micro. Frustration of wait a minute I'd I'd play for awhile here as you mentioned before Mike he said I set my family up. For ever because of the money I made here and now you're taking money away from me for I think it's going to be good tackle and I got a guy changing his level now all of a sudden I'm like where what hello my sport to do out here right and you're taken my money is confusing. And unfortunately. There seemed to be to be even more possibly more rules added when it. Through the guide to appoint we've been making may be defined them more with the games or how good the the discipline is going to be handed out at least of good players always like this and we are itinerary like guys right. Beat here at this time being here at that time if you don't this is what's gonna happen that's gonna wanna know what's going to happen to me if I do this okay at least now I know that. Now can we get past the gray area what I actually did to earn those gains or a fine. Right look and we'll see what happens going forward that's obviously going to be discussion. To continue. And this and the stock market are going way Marcus lot of players are very frustrated about this. Well again Mike and I've done Mike and Mike here. A tree we know going to join me as did radio and ESP almost had almost swear jar jar also and uses words are for the first time. We represented by the rest of insurance awful against join us on the shell Pennzoil performance line. But we move on because it's time for another edition of don't know why we only in lingo. There. Like fill in the blank brought you about him detractors and utility vehicles Mahendra USA the world's number one selling tractor OK guys you ready. Months before ten and two teams. The one you're least confident in vikings Eagles Steelers or patriots who has a while that it. That's a great question because. You'll lose confidence in a tentative so this is Communist separated because I I have confidence that all of them. I'll go to the quarterback. The least the least quarter and that would be case keen Emory right now. So and ends and I I don't even one at the summit itself like a slight but you're asking me to pick one. I'm gonna pick the one of their big of the quarterback has I I've Wentz has been playing fantastic and then you have Big Ben embrace of those are no winners. I actually probably go with the Eagles on this one I look at the vikings' top to bottom probably most complete every other fast that I think they've got a better defense slightly better defense than the Steelers and you're gonna take one of the two teams it's gonna spread talent around him to trust the woman's got Tom Brady at quarterback and the Eagles modeled it. We'll see this a big two game stretch and I'm at LA this weekend against the rams is gonna tell us a lot about this team is going down the stretch. Yet you know this may sound crazy but ominously the Steelers and I'll tell you why because for them to go all the way the team that they're gonna have to be is knowingly. And historically. They have not done a very good job of finding a way to beat New England in the Tom Brady Bill Belichick era and again week fifteen game coming up is huge next week. Because a game will be in Pittsburgh between these two I get it it was in Pittsburgh last year but it was early in the season and Landry Jones was the starting quarterback. The Pittsburgh Steelers in that game you're never gonna be item would all these guys healthy. This might be the time but I haven't seen that from this Pittsburgh unit going up against the patriots OK we continue fill in the blank. It's a good one Jerry Jones first words to Roger Goodell next week's owners' meetings in Dallas will be. Choose your words carefully as snipers on the roof off a. Yeah all right all right. Yeah. Now I I I as I mean at all honestly I'm sure it'll be cordial it sounded like a the most recent round of owners' meetings. There was a cordial nature to a because Jerry Jones sort of understood the road that this is going down. This is going to be a slow play for him it's gonna be calculated at one I think for Jerry Jones and it's gonna take place behind closed doors that don't involve Roger in the room. It'll be one of those handshakes leading to that that somewhat awkward hug and handshake will be the joke how your body and you know and then in the dog Adobe whispered in his here. I. Yeah that's. Here's the thing I but he won't say you'll. You won I don't know I can't beyond what is gonna save these out as a. Congratulations on winning this one right pretty sure that's not gonna happen. OK Andy Reid didn't wait for anybody from the league to do this right in a big division game coming up when they've got the raiders. The chiefs suspended at their head coach stay suspended Marcus Peterson throwing rest Plaxo. The chiefs doing the suspending of Marcus Peters for throwing rest flag is. Very Herm Edwards asked exactly right where were a coach not really caring about what the league's going to do with taking care or responsible of of his own team Marcus Spears again through the flag and then walked off the field. Walked off the field and Andy Reid I think try to cover Foreman oppressor after saying. Well mark are starting to sort out of the game that's why I left the field when he was never thrown out of the game we just left the field himself a man came back and said there was something about a Sox I have no idea so that's it you know Andy Reid you know saying. I'm gonna take care of us I'm not worried about the league. I would say leadership in the in that vein because this is not outcome depending he doesn't care that this is a huge division game for them all the wrong nodded at the top. He is secured the ramifications are gonna be because he's got job security he's got security in himself and his coaching style and that's not something we've seen a ton of lately whether it's what happened with the giants weathered what happened in the college ranks at Tennessee it's refreshing to see similar with the confidence in the ability to say no. This is more I draw the line in the stand your going to live by my rules here regardless of how hurts us even if I may disagree with it yeah. I think it's admirable you know because look what they've lost six of their last seven games that started five know when they're in dire situations now they need to make the playoffs. But Andy Reid is making a statement and now he wants his players to behave we heard we have Herman here. And it's a built the Sonoma slow play with Marcus Peters over the last couple of years what he's an exceptional player but there have been some issues and I think it finally came to a head when he thought he was ejected and came back out. Try to play without socks on now of about latter part of my game with the jets I think Andy's just saying look enough is enough and I'm making a line in the sand much in the way her ended with Larry Johnson when he was in. Kansas City and also with John Abraham wreck I was will within yards out okay this is interest in. Are we get Chip Kelly Willie Taggart demo and Jim both Fisher Scott frost Jeremy Pruitt now we believe finalizing the deal with Tennessee beat most successful new college football coaching hire will be. I'm gonna go with what the life blood of college sports is and that's recruiting and number to give the edge two guys who have had success as Chip Kelly. And as Jim bow Fischer the bulletin that success that the schools Chip Kelly Dorgan Jim both Fisher Florida state of going into homes and getting some of the top athletes cell. And in their new place is about Texas a and M in UCLA I still think they have the clout to walk into these so how is this a combo platter you know it well at all. I've I've narrowed it down to those two and a and then. I'll probably I'll probably lead more toward Chip Kelly Chip Kelly is is kind of the college coach type of player of today. Running those offered to place players know they can move on to the NFL. From grandma and and he runs that that quick for an offense I think players gravitate to that. I think they could the problem I have wood Chip Kelly because the system has proven its in there but it requires a quarterback and they're losing maybe a top quarterback in the draft and Josh Rosen maybe not a Chip Kelly quarterback system kinda guy. One of the best in the country and that's hard to replace given the lack of talent and the rest that team I'd look at Willie Taggart. This a Florida State team that a lot of expectations coming into the season gonna get Dion for your friends while back healthy. This coming season and I think he's point two walking into a more talented situation in a conference that's more winnable than most of these in his prime for an early jump here are pro even a year. Probably yeah. That would be the issue that will only what what's the expiration date on the milk carton right because it tends to go bad pretty quickly what does he. He's Kotelly in one of the four games that is a cool games nowadays than a dozen teams and holds less warriors within Mullen and I'll tell you why because Dan Mullen has big quarterbacks everywhere he asks me look. Start the Mississippi is a hard place to to have find people to get to go to one win and he did a great job there he may deck press gotten he was part of Tim Tebow and we talk with quarterback was Burt is gonna have a lot of people are valid horrific failure to absolutely so I think Dan Mullen has a real good shot to be the most successful ball he's got a nice freshman their to a fleet they're franks is coming I -- right Maria got some action in games meaningful time with him absolute advantage in the offseason get out of the baseball here Rafael Palmeiro. Wants to make comeback. At the age of 53. So happy trying to make a comeback at the age of 53 is. Mom. Aggressive the craft back. I'm trying to figure a nice way to say that all I'll say that impossible. It is not happening the oldest player I know Julio Franco was 49 order retired in 2007. Ruff whose son is in the Orioles are system right now at least 22 years old I would say impossible on the leaders anyway gets back in the majors and doesn't think. I think it's trendy listen guys beating back the clock is what's hot sports right now we got that Tom Brady and LeBron James pool for a reason right now it's because guys are trying to play longer. Who was it Russell Wilson came out the other day and said he wanted to play news or reporting yeah so 53 B next of 1015 years is gonna look like chump change. I hope so I mean look I'll say Minnie Mittal says taken at look at bats I think in the seventy's at one point a regular play. Let's just say I think it's wishful thinking the guy rated Herschel Walker few years ago. Do itself and he said he believes he could still come back and like that's great for you. But there's zero chance yeah IPO keeps talking about come on back I measured the comeback trail I actually impossible my man be a but then why you know you just gonna pull map after he gets a first base I mean I would even question if you do that you can get nice second down specialist dad. I guess first I'm not third down close second doubt I'm not gonna go there are but with Rafael former dream big. Dream big kid merry go let anybody limit you but you nothing's impossible and it's never happened that's true are only a year older than him I guess you think about it do it think about that element on that works out for I'm 240 were three government safety way right now is both so I took so I was your forty time then we need to know you can mirrored as you have the federal money to pay the fines that's good for their it is. Goalies you can window the podcast what are. And no doubt about it. 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How much you could say by switching to Geico those oysters Rockefeller or stick Geico fifteen minutes could save you 15% or more. Every once in awhile some like Adams after drops in in person in studio to use the straight talk brought you restrict a wireless has phones that's networks. No contracts straight talk here obviously Adam is that Roger Goodell got the contract extension. Jerry Jones despite his best efforts was not able to delay it however you said something very interesting. Which is you think that there are still things Jerry Jones is trying to. Fight here well what what what can he stop now at this point analysts in the contract is done so Jerry's not gonna prevailed there but again I think he. But his message heard I think he brought a lot of attention to the issue. Look we've never seen. In the history of sports. Commission has contracts so openly discussed and openly debated. And I know or tomorrow until Peter came that they were very transparent I don't know it was exactly like that and it breaks and strategists all these things have to come out over time. And so everybody got to take an up close look at that Contra panel of people wondering. Roger get. Free free private jet to their health Larry for well they'll do well yes and if so employees. Basically get. Long term health care after they leave so. Health care for life when she leaves that job and then. Also in relation they jet. The legal says and arrangements or he came by some of that time that the league it's an discuss depressed so he came. Basically had a portion that rose one to know if you do get the project he he has access to their projects. So you know it's a big win for the big big endlessly get a passing a lot of people say how does he get paid that and the bottom line is as I said whether or whoever is negotiating contact anywhere. Anybody can say no gas for what you want and if you if ever both sides agree two to pay guys are armor remember those generically great agent Jack knows the time. On the Brock visits on his offensive lineman named Don magazine my memory serves me correctly 1983 because dinner cigar magazine or in Houston and it Isaiah three or five million dollar deal which the times seem like alana monocle Jack message that he worth. Three years of five million injected atom. If somebody is willing to pay you something in your worth it and on this particular case the owners are once they Roger Goodell 200 million dollars. So are mad notes that that's Don and and listen more power to anybody get anywhere they can get angry you're probably bury but. Going forward when the owners have to make decisions now for the good of the game going forward. How is the relationships you know you have that that competition committee I Jerry Jones was gonna serve papers to. Which billionaire everybody has he goes oh billionaires maybe egos get even more played a lightweight image you're gonna do that to us. So what's the what if any is there a fallout from Mets. Well I think that I think it's been made public that there are owners not just Jerry. Were unhappy with what's gone on in the league office. And the way that somebody structured so. I don't know we've heard the last of that just yet. I think Jerry Roger I think defined like they were in a room together at the meetings at the league office last week I believe Louis. It was very core almost eerie Arthur Blank that's it I mean like all her own right you don't know when you're gonna serve papers like you're you're you're luncheonette. All these things fade over time our number one number two a teacher cares. I think he cares. Jerry ought to showcase sort of like many jury now Derek I ain't gonna work a little or blood. You're satisfied to that point I was working class I was working in Saint Louis when there was an NFL owners meeting in Chicago and that's when Jerry sort of went outside the NFL trust and you know. Pushed up or get pushed up Texas Stadium and signed the deal with with I think Pepsi when it when the NFL direct Coke. And we were there when he got serve that 500 million dollar lawsuit he looked over the pages is that. Really that's all assuming for the suit for a lot more myth than a countersuit and he actually won it everybody made money because it would Jerry Jones did because it allowed not only there to be national. Endorsements but local endorsements for every team a Jerry is gonna do what he thinks is best. Isn't care. Was upset about ideas and care for the blanks that's an in my holiday card immoral and as a matter of him anymore. It's it's fine all right so what does matter though we yeah we saw. The Mike Mitchell ran that way that one often. Well we've been talking about this a lot to prop guy Matt Hasselbeck and strap yeah I don't batter out I didn't hear what Matt said in in relation to that but he always called Mike Mitchell dirty player and a Mike Mitchell did not like a wide missile did not like that are not in icing might play for a lot of register I don't think he's a dirty player. But that's that's our opinion right and arrows go out everybody's entitled to their own. But you might initials going to be out there on the field were you surprised to bed that Andy Reid made the movie did to take down markets Peters is corner you know when you don't you don't on the line near the weekend so what. In order series that could set himself put them please don't let. You don't say that like again. And and a little disappointed us because you know we love to make big deals at things that we do know but the truth of the matter is the issue of any huge deal on Monday. Boy had a million other things but that's exactly does this feel like the judge is wired very big coaching GM. And season for the first time since 1976. And basically made wholesale changes. Within their organization one of the most tradition rich historic franchises there isn't sports. Blood everybody. And yet the grunt can on Sunday. And grunts and most popular players in sports everybody's talking about that so Marcus Peters became a you know are on Monday and on any other Monday where the giants are firing of people where grunt vision. WWE. Moving what Brady's wife to Davis warned that time. Marcus Spears who have been all over sports general de re throwing a flag. Into the standard walking up the Phil I Nellie back in valuing rejected exactly now coming back onto the field would like sucks on. And basically. It it was embarrassing the whole thing. So Andy Reid discredit to the right thing yesterday. Suspended him for game I don't care that they are playing the raiders envisioned top. And he's up there on the field for a while while the defense that hasn't worked out so so let let me go back to that you I think for a moment then before before we break. What's your relationship but don't a lot of relationship talking this morning there may be a need it to sit on the couch for someone. Com the relationship with Eli and the Maris or make is we don't know I think I solo what I am sure there are so. And you know listen I think when they fired everybody this week I really believe that that hit. The reset button it was great fodder for a week hey what's gonna happen with Eli in the future whereas you may go to the fact the matter is. We don't know with a jam is going to be we don't know they coach is going to be we don't know how they're gonna feel but he liked. And I think we could all sit here and safely say. That the giants are going to be and have been looking for a quarterback in the draft. Nothing wrong with that image at Davis Love in the third record there's women and their maybe they'll like data sweater maybe they don't arm you can never dressed enough quarterbacks as Ron Wolf knows. But even if they go and take quarterback with their first pick what could be better than having that guy learn from Eli Manning for a year till would you droplet you look at our Rogers did. So again an employee who's to say decision team and make it to overseas anymore even though he did start 210 streaking so. To me goatee quarterback. I think the doors completely open on a return to New York Eli himself the city isn't seems so played anywhere else other than New York with the giants. I think those are the options you're looking at right now. It was all sort of one big idea yellow molded very efficient Wear that white. At a show after hanging out with us in the studio. Lots to get into Adam about but first and foremost you know we we think there was some good news. Oh. Over the last day when Brian she's here the Steelers linebacker was able to be moved from Cincinnati back to PL lord what what more can you tell. There are so I again I guess I guess. We can only go about what we actually see the hard facts it's such sensitive situation and everybody's thinking attempt. The defect he's gone back Pittsburg is a good sign yes I think here. Is some quiet guarded optimism but he still going through tests. Nobody knows for sure on. I think the signs are encouraging right now but. Everybody's waiting for this update about what these you'd be okay and and that hasn't come just yet and I could sense it will. But I also been told that he still want to Lotta tests they're being very careful on everybody. To release we know has tried she's a year in. Are super. Is that is the toughest part of your thought by now you'd you'd. Here are some things you know because. As I said everybody in the world who was just watching you waiting for his legs to move him that's who we want to see him. We've heard teammates have said they talked to Maurice said he had sensation. In in all Muslims what we haven't heard really any more than that so. And again and prayers up there and fingers crossed no doubt about that back on the field in. The talk this is again the offseason the competition committee in the rules game talking about the possibility of implementing in some form or maybe in the former right it is right fully right now college of the targeting rule again where. A player could actually be thrown out of the game. Four hits and ahead. Is it does that really I know we're gonna discuss it Lou is we think there's legs to this were I'm gonna go to our mind even more. I don't listen if the league is off to a Gloria stand up if the league is talking about a right now the competition committee is certainly going to be discussing during the year. During offseason I think there's a real chance he gets adopted now. Again if you like their offseason last year the competition committee mated appointed insists you emphasized that. When your hands would be there with projections decide which of our guys and players right suspended. Due to these types of incidents are now on nine being that it locus was withdrawn. But you seem more that the competition committees try to come up with ways to a improve the game make it safer making more consistent look it's an inherently NC game they gotta do I can't. And so I yeah I think there's a real chance at that does happen next offseason. Well. Obviously are there like yeah well there's a field that the one thing that I didn't like about what Troy Vincent said that it's worked to a degree well let's let's make sure what works to a better degree. If we're adopt ASEAN member I guess my point is were already had gray area. With how things have been done and now to me it seems like we're an add another layer to write what we seem to do that every year to the officials and I will say this the officials in the an about it. Get they get criticized all the time. I would ask anyone criticizes these officials. To try and do all the things that they are asked to do and and processed at full speed at the speed up in which UC for the person not the replays that all that's so clear and obvious you know it's it's a completely different dynamic when it's coming at you at warp speed. And the other report Adam was there may be some sort of up momentum being built to implement. The lack of a better term. A ground rule if there's a hit like Mike Evans for example put on marsh on Lattimore that had nothing to do with the play well let me read into his back or ground falling intraday be as white outfit that would have a separate category with a stiffer penalty involved. Well I think what they talked about what their what they are talking about is a certain sort of infractions schedule sort of like if you. Penalize erupted the pastor your finest sir Matthews obscene language fine mr. Rogers a schedule for fines. And I think what they're gonna do is there an accomplice to schedule. For these types of plays right and wrong played a Mike Evans but what ever played as you hit a player after the play. Which we just call like that right after the to play after the whistle is blown the play is dead in a player gets it not to the ground or knocked out wherever may be. You're gonna get suspended one game if you had a player. With a punch it's going to be two game I'm just making these things up but there's a clear cut schedule. That you assign a category two just like they have for fines right now actually come up with these fines. If falls to a certain category and say OK well on the you've always the social media policy you you were sucks to high. You were a neat you are guilty of an issue roughness and each state has certain fine and I need to reduce our. Idealist and I agree play I really hate to be consistent I have always sets foot Mike Mitchell been ranting is exactly right because I've always that athletes live by an itinerary. Being told where to be what to do what time to do it what to Wear in some cases. I NN and most of us don't detects the thinking out there inning and I don't mind that so it's nice to look at as she could say you do this or caution that you do this or caution that. At least and you know and it's not like oh why did that. When now what's going to happen you know in my gonna get this or my Guinea at this at least you know what's there are so there is something to that and then it's about enforcing it. And sticking to a once you finally do. All right so let's put this you would we do over under fill in the blank here on Gordon we go what are the odds that. Let's say we have. AAA targeting what would you put the odds that in 2018 there will be some form over targeting Giuliani well you know just guessing I would guess we deal I'm on my argument number two I would guess we'd deal and the same thing you think for a rule about yes more specific about delicately federal way they don't happen when no not really aware of the com. Stations that are out there right and there's nobody out there who can't say. That the league when his grip dude it's Italy he's been consistent. And I don't think that's one of the big complaints row right that. Ron gets one game in Georgia looking gets one game in jujitsu Shuster it's one game and are these infractions all the same are they just the same now so I think at the league. Here's a this conversation and it's very aware ball is certainly aware of the perception images it tries to combat that interest or come up with ways to make the game safer and that hopes. Then why not do I I agreed that part of it I think there will be more of a schedule for lack of better term of things I just can't. Bring myself to believe they're gonna put the are ready. Ours are ready rule or they can reject somebody out of a game so I don't to take that a step of targeting I I just don't wanna see it's I can't bring myself to even think it's going to be part of. You'll find that with the new reality is we have to have the meetings in the offseason Adam thanks for being with a cif alive today. Who did you know Michelle do little luxuries that absolutely I'll ask our home. Only can window. Podcast let's not expect too much there's only one person out there than expected wage who watched part of this guy who really knows that is good news. His father. I mean intimately and then you don't know what. Coaching very determined. All the staff because they're going to call attention to it this year it. Both players we brought him he didn't do so retirement still forward surely would remove the extra. You know certainly we sure Norma. There are. You know what one of the things and always talk about with rookie quarterbacks whose expectations are so Iowa new draft and highs you don't draft a rookie. Or you don't draft a quarterback for his rookie year you draft him for a decade so were we all know what went on in your rookie year and all you're doing now. You mentioned Sean McVeigh what are some of the major points he is held to most within your transition from rookie year to this year. You know I think just his ability to teach him to lose you know. And socialists and in my or muscle all the quarterbacks and hope he Mangini and general earlier in his if he's really really good future green and the other G if you can't go back to her. The teacher and you know attract jobs teaching me not only are up until you know more and more more of a difference in those terms are. Jerry golf joins us into retirement this rams offense thirty points per game this season tied with the Eagles for most in the NFL. The rams that's a sixteen point one points per game improvement from last season and you may need all this Eagles team comes to town. You know this is a unique situation this Sunday. It'll just be the eighth time in the common draft Arab League goes back to 1967. More quarterbacks taken 12 against each other or in that same draft face off against each other. I know that you're focusing on the team. But how much talk has there been out there anybody it's it's Goff vs winds for the first time in your career. Yeah I'm sure a little bit on some content on sure that you choose really you know to. Election center platelet you know again our opinions that don't conflict are you know their defense and local children's and with our defense in which I'm sure in the primary go to. Oakland San. We're waiting for you guys to be in three point stance as against one another fifty yard line but everybody can get a tablet you don't let let's talk about offense and before we get through to the wide receiver position just Todd girly you obviously saw where he could do. Last year to one of the things I know I was talking rod and others were as well has been incorporated this year. Last series for the entire area 21 receptions or are charred 43 receptions last year this year he already has 48 to he's been incorporated. So much more with games to go in the passing game talk about that transition for him just how that has helped open up the offense. Yeah you know he's really become a complete direct notable conclude that I totally could not remember the back field. Changes our whole dynamic sort of overall potentially additional assurance that dramatic event that you'll clinical sealed oklahomans are essential count the alternate but he socialist more. In an area and we to a front perpetually in and everything that goes all right so mark and make it quite all the constant political parade and you know. A lot tobacco. Well listen we had. Early on NFL live earlier this season and all he wanted to do really. Was talk about his Georgia Bulldogs have juries insufferable right now right that Georgia college football what how much is he trying to focus on the Eagles on how much is he actually focusing on the final for a college football. Only got a few legal outlet outlet where about Kurt Kurt so it. The other thing you're planning on going to. Yeah he's going to be even talk about the other day you know each other go or you're doing. Considerable and you know total that although it didn't purple so little. Data that they really are says there's always wanted to brag about the college one is doing well. Another guy they were gonna let you brag about it because you know you look at your wide receiver corps obviously with with guys that you had Robert Woods and Sammy Watkins come over the guys that people know. Here comes as Cooper cup kid he noticed that nobody nobody knew about him and all the sudden Erie is leading the team. In receptions so we're just we're just let you boast on him are you well. Oh sure yeah I think I think you know he is either very very what church do the very mature. Structure tour rookie. You know he's usually in governor very early and didn't work done it a little girl you know Cooper didn't turn away announcement that it shows up but you know he's gonna get very emotional reason. He had so much production college and I was you know low level but still so much production and Carlos and then on all all built in Italy drew hadn't you know we're very lucky not to mention he's going to be part of the reason the potential pledge point. Everything's working on the offensive and one thing that I think a lot of people took notice of had nothing to do with the actual plays but the audible call on those plays we've heard Elvis dusty to talk Obama Obama Obama. Retro Eric who comes up with these audible calls Jerryd. You know multiply that children who have looked out the current total to change the president scored Greg Cole so about works better you know it will unlock it's impossible to recruit Cotto doesn't want to garment shop. But obviously in today's game because defense is can pick up on things it would you would have to change it quite often when June. I have yeah of course sometimes they depend to note if it didn't feel like that in that situation on almost hate to sound effect deal. You could you look at players flotilla that matter. Well you know what this shows on your TV copy yeah most absurd. That's for sure. The remarkable turnaround for this offense and usage rookie years been amazing. Obviously show on the face helps him and just being in the league another year help but from your perspective what was the hardest thing about your rookie year. That you've now found so much easier in year two that you like may and this was a real struggle for me. But there last year and now it's sort of coming to be a lot easier. Are now all of a warm I think I think so what one thing you know you'll learn is just another nobody your daily business almost you almost feel much so that aspect of Olympus. Just know also feel a million. In the in the meetings. Just elite you know out of the facility historical or business. Kara due to begin there now. Current U I guess hearing certain figure you know what your daily routine is bigger than you would probably not want to have colonel Roland Bershard. Started jerk off our quarterback drew rams and Michelle pens all performance climate gets set to take on the Eagles the one and two quarterback. Picked a couple of years ago in the draft pop out. The reception out there in LA for your team that moods and obviously winning certainly helps but. Talk about that transition and now to people out there and Howell they have or maybe not all the way yet or are is still in the process of accepting you guys out there. How about some fathering going marker though I'll go to work boot it is remarkable courage and really going. No produce but this year you know the different Whitman really spark much improved and actually you're the improvement would defend the glory notes that it's impossible. Cease and you can also see the guys that are you know a lot in Europe and around that until the so he's eighties and those with a quote the Coca will immediately go to script so won't folk tunes elusive dark. Still here when he goes back in the it's it's really cool it's the most aspect. Speaking for two people who have been alive in the seventies and yes yet we think we think those are cool people do I actually play against a random and they are now it's all right well it's it will yet you don't global we don't wanna bore you. I Jerry Lewis and big game coming up could be our home field implications on the line in the NFC we appreciate you being with us thanks shirt. Or your brokerage. Goal which makes me wanna vomit and then punch you square in the face. And window cold peace Aussie today. We have a huge match up. Saturday night here on ESPN a Madison Square Garden. The silly what Shiancoe against Gil all Rita dove out at for the junior welterweight championship and delighted to have Teddy atlas would this year on golden window will be analyzing this matchup. All all weekend long Teddy this this is about as good as he gets in terms of the resonates with this summit it's never happened before with these two fighter are both. Two time Olympic gold medalists. Yeah first time in his shoes sporting news all the bows for the has been around for. You know depend on what can accuse you use to win you a fact I know parts of the Greeks but Tom longer than baseball and everybody thinks of baseball's causes them. Pastime that's been around the longest personal box and Austin's been swinging for a long time so. We had the Macgregor. Mayweather show hole. We had a triple AG Alvarez fight and now we have another boxing match another flight so. So where where we keep talking about it it was MMA kind of surpassing boxing is boxing come back what. Is this going to do and how can this help this match yeah I mean boxing for me boxing is always going to be the top because you know you always use same for me. That it lives are fed. No and it's the only place where where he came from a whenever you raise your creed religion your background would you did not have forget about what dad would get kidnapped. We perilous walk on one given night you get that ring. Have you at all for an off. You trained well enough. Go strong enough you determined enough. You can be the best in the world we you can for months and you can have your hand raised about one night right and you could be the world champion. And fuel these guys because they wanna see how much can somebody take how far will some money go. What is the limits and maybe they think to themselves how far wide goal. They do I get my boss's face today. Made you allies say that I deserved something that I never thought that I could say before because I watched was somebody can do when that ring and had squared circle. Or let's say we truth and is nothing quite like seeing the truth come together. When there's two men and testing each other. This match is pretty special I mean you have. You have two of the best pound for pound guys around and you have to the best I would choose a more time. And what makes an intriguing from me is that one creates his offense has moments Frankel. But he's also good that a lot of things you don't baseball Willie Mays was one of the best I absolutely what I how many how many dimensions Scooby Doo on these cozy a. I don't play my right who played OK here it is here's the breakdown for me. Reagan the Dow is afford to play great defense big body puncher maybe the best body punch and game yet we're really not our rig count a bunch of played power. Here comes moments ago he can do all those things nor will look quite as greatly but all of them. Though the bull really well. And he's got one on the he can lead he can create offense on the front end. Pullman strike gold can usage damp and make things happen. He can be an audience that goes out there and he just says I'll I'll I'll make a boating yeah I'll make entry yet I do whatever I want he's creative he's Ameristar. The other guy Regan the out or other things I said. The only shortcoming why I fable moments ago is that Wigan the al-Qaeda create offense. He he's a source described you come you put Detroit didn't he graduate law. He's account apologies of Floyd Mayweather but he does the woo more Powell he needs you'll reckless offense or your aggression. To be able to greed and create. Oh win. And knows scenario where he can create authors and do the things that he does so well he needs that and that's what makes his super addressing. Because moments I goal has it on their shoulders. To make this fight he's the one who's gonna make it exciting it's going to be exciting right no one's gonna wait for the moment. He's so does he get a little. Reckless does those wanting to. So they can entertain would you want to enjoy did an interview will and moved out in California there's going to be Scholl and I think today in general I think we just saw yet and so he's an I want to create I want I want to go out there I want to entertain. We do the other doesn't care about entertaining he cares about waiting for now one moment home I think and anyway and so far. Get guys open. I wanna fight I know I just because it just listening to the petty -- I want to get enough it'll last seven seconds Sudan it's exactly where I think your passion listened to you talk about this obviously not just a great analyst rust but a trainer for so many great fighters all the years you've got me fired up man just listening to that that was awesome. And do that point that. One moment I was go back to Buster Douglas vs Mike Tyson writers I think there were no watched that fight but literally the odds makers said. There was no there's zero chance that Buster Douglas could've won that fight and he ends up being heavyweight champion of the world. Well as we go who's mum had died. Not that long before that fight. Well as a dog was always had skills he always had side she always had ability. Why he didn't have the mental toughness be heavyweight champ the made two choices in the ring when the choices came back to a pawn in fast and had his mother died. He was able to do that know the girl anymore doesn't make him afraid no more he's had a hell would does that help with Tyson right. My mother die a little go out there for one night only to be what I described earlier. I'm going to be that guy a would be the best in the world among going to be afraid of a guy name Mike Tyson. And was able to pull wolf I get chills. Now we outlaw it under this could be great W avenue analyzed these this fights and it's going to be like this is phenomenal ESPN boxing analyst Teddy atlas joining us on the show opens or performer applied. Our Regan the out is. Jumping two weight class is that this right now he had he hasn't lost is a lost a fight a pro or two since 03. But he's the underdog in this is is the reason because he's the collar guy or because. He's gone up a couple of weight classes why why would he be the underdog the. Who Digg may be too small. To all he's 37 revenue between nine point nine there may be too old may be too small. Maybe to enact if he hasn't been active. A momentary goes through more act of and and again doesn't create the offense and a fun and depends on around Baghdad and he's had flaws is trying to so a lot of people think well. If it's a decision and the guy who can create uses. Uses jam and create on the fun and he's probably. You don't have to be a genius yet you don't have to be Angelo Dundee don't even have to be Teddy atlas that there are many things but do understand that. That guy who can create an affront and will probably be winning unified aggressor until. A moment. Might come at a you know. Moments strangled dozen of them Powell. Of we in the back in a dead dead Powell punches were born in a mate. And you want to punch. But he's a guy he's like been in the late move around. He just thinks pieces that you there's not a left to be the death by a thousand different this takes pieces that you mention your nose to my government skeleton. Like dude does not the last. The other guy you're in there it's like being in the ocean. In the deep blue number that movie that they made that that everybody was always outdoors and have a death analysts and install content quiet. I don't and and and then you know as most known unknowns colonial bank follows when he comes out of the ocean and he just cuts in half. Yeah I mean that's that's the fight he got to Shockey got the ground. We'll dish dog amount that the blue and get there with a prime adjust peck away won't be able. By the way next time you're you're coming in more revenue at 6 AM to get us woke up and out on the senate Denny's like a triple shot of espresso via this is this is great stuff sort of that's the fight. Saturday night you'll be analyzing that fight for a Sony has been all platforms of but I want to ask you about Oscar De La Hoya. He recently said he's thinking a common out of retirement to fight kind of McGregor we saw the big payday with McGregor and may. Whether this summer do you believe McGregor wood box again I mean he thinks she beat Mayweather to form a second time they've been somebody's going to writing another hundred million dollars hiking I I was say let me think what I get together and I do enjoy your rural let me think. Yeah I have bucket got the you know I mean it's always gonna pay that but it's gotta be it can't be in there with these young lines writing Camby would spend some Camby would Thurman you know. He can't be with Puerto in Camby would Danny Garcia. I mean it can't be with these months is that we don't that we needed to conduct as they go right have to move -- to begin about not like Floyd waiting awhile. This is terrible moments to wait they would go and get them. Unify it would com and would burn them up right away so he's Smart he does are doing now board review will divided chuckling that hate. You know he might look got to deal lawyers who shocked I. All right you know put a lot of weight on a guy who's been an act of just sitting back he's not a fighter anymore we're very money in this so we're we're people and certainly not like the Mayweather fight the that was nice guy and sell button you know what was up Barnum and Bailey said this is solvable and every date her you know and the political UP bug them suckers on design but there's a few there's a few people who medical and then be intrigued as AH. He did OK we'll Mayweather you don't. I think the best thing is for solely give Moscow hog this flows from Holland because really you don't need to be doing is normal. And you say that because I was like look I I got the interest in the bill amended the in the Mayweather right now I. But you're trying to tell me that a guy who's not a professional boxer I think it's going to be gone as a professional boxer who's never lost a lot of professional boxer. Can't see it and it didn't turn out to fight so you can be breaking down this junior welterweight fight for all weekend long moment takeover deal. We appreciate combined. I'm fired up the right now show I really get under the sixth a lot of our next outcry really got a great jedi episode of the struggle for him. He sees in the best of goalie can we go podcast which you subscribe on the ESPN. Apple podcast to listen every. 6 eastern on ESPN radio ESPN two and the.