Dec 14, 2017|
The guys talk about the potential of a CTE test in living humans, Aaron Rodgers returning to the Packers and talk to First Army Captain Simone Askew and Panthers HC Ron Rivera
Adnan reviews First Man (3:01) and Vox Lux (13:56), chats with Oscar nominated actor Robert Forster (15:30), and discusses one of the best spin offs ever (36:26).
The guys talk about Vontaze Burfict's dirty hits before rejoicing that the NBA is back with ESPN NBA Analyst Doris Burke. They also talk with Paul Finebaum, Joe Thomas & more.
The guys talk with 10-time Pro Bowl T Joe Thomas about Vontaze Burfict and Le'Veon Bell before talking with Texans CB Jonathan Joseph and more.
The guys talk with ESPN NBA Analyst Doris Burke about the start of the NBA season before talking with Paul Finebaum about college football as the season rolls on and more.
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A lot of near talked about the mugs that are on our set here emirates are given some of those away as well some nice mugs that you can. As a given the Christmas present right maybe some money. Biden thing was my hero or or people like really that's what you're getting me pretty much real idea I got a lot of good I got to my blog with those two mold him on as a thanks -- you think the world there are stocking stuffer aesthetics. Affiliate tires stocking. Oh my gosh are by the we were getting so much. Critics admit using tweets in we're getting diminishing tweets and there on what we should sing. Someone says that you and licensing Mike I got UB Abrams all there you go I like yeah you know what I want people in that it again and it up there which first. Which ESPN personality. And what would they what would you choose for them singing karaoke I'm trying to think what you would make Torre corners of I thought wow what we're party unity USA. I'm in the streets are great would that be asked for example we put up on Twitter. Stephen A Smith oh with singing scream and shout which you know makes all this was very you know Dario will keynesian firemen and yeah. I don't CC today the pregnant pause site as a stronger a stronger response throwing in the studio there where I work at my job and I haven't talked I'm thinking Steven is going to be do well on the little bit soft how now the guy. Who's talking about you'll be able to get down with a softer part yeah. That's also okay so we talked about this before it's really amazing article all of that came out on. Sports Illustrated dot com right now you can only diagnosed CT chronic traumatic encephalopathy. After someone has died. But the Boston University CT senator believes that in as little as five years there might be a test. That you could take to determine whether or not you have it while you're an active. Well your alive number Laurent right and while you're an active player in a contact sport like football hockey soccer whatever or you'd have a lot of you don't cross. And the middle vaults collisions and using your had a lot. Or are collisions at that. And they actually talked to a bunch of current NFL players about that situation if for example one of the questions they asked was if there was a test to diagnose CT would you take it among those they ask was Kirk cousins the quarterback he said yes sure I think there are other guys. Who play regardless it's like to change the way I approach the game so why should be hanging over my head they asked to hear why did the lions linebacker for sure I think it would be a good idea. Chris Long was a really insightful guy said I would take it but I would also be very careful not to his. Unpredictable behavior to my results are as comfortable pretty eager to my results. I don't believe it's a slam dunk that if you have CT you're going to and we haven't quotes here lose it. You went on to say we're probably going to be the last generation that will have no idea what's going on with our brains. I think the next generation is really going to know a lot so let me ask you two guys Mike you played 19 years I NFL up. Junior you played in college of course went to went to training camps in the NFL if there was a test right now that could tell you whether or not. You had CT would you take death and RP. What would be your reason for taking. Because I always think knowing more help citing understanding your situation allows you to help control it a little bit better at least address the realities of it. And within the larger context this conversation. This would be the next step in improving a lot more of what Chris Long is talking about here is. Is there no. Is core relation causation and a lot of these cases is the understanding that seat he has a linked to head trauma some of the things that we seem what is it the driving force all of that gets answered once you can start to diagnose analytic. There is there is that part of the research which would from that standpoint. There were all I would almost feel like there's an obligation. To do it if it over to start a professional athletes certainly if there's a test you do for a living and you can do it for younger you seek you know from from high school lie and he DUC what water are the percentages if you could start finding that out. All great for research but we're talking about the NFL players dollar. Players who open played a long time like we have. Would you wanna know my first thought was this. My first thought was. No not until I knew there was secure. Why what I wanna know I have something if I can't do anything about it that was my initial thought on my initial thought was. Well is there cure or you just telling me I have it. You know what went when we got I think the premise of the survey was just to know whether or not you were going to have a bit not very there was part of it my initial thought was no if I can't do anything about it listen we get tested for all sorts of bad disease has now. And one of the reason you get early detection as you can start treatment for them. Right now there's no treatment for CT so my first thought was why what I wanna know. Because there's nothing I can do about it then I start thinking and going okay. Are there different stages of CT eat so if fight test that out and while I'm playing and I find out yes I have it but stage one I don't know if they're forced stages stage one of it. Why then go OK I am at stage one. Why stop playing to make the decision now to say OK I have that I don't have stage for you know or three if comet stage one. I can still make the choice may be to stop playing and maybe you won't go any further. George I start to add questions like that into the equation but I'll be honest my initial thought was you can't cure it. Widely held a while wanna know. Booths and I think my response to that would be game kind of what my point in the beginning of this wasn't what Chris Long is is when you say if there's not a cure that indicates that the presence of it means there's something wrong and that's what we don't always know yet is it just by it being there does that mean you were subject to. The dementia the links to ALS all these other things that supposedly come from this and that's the thing that we don't know so by you saying. I would only want to know if there's a curable requires that there's something to be sure necessarily so. As I said that was. My first thought in thinking more about it I would think I would have to do I I do think there is. Obligation as a wrong or did not obligated to do anything but the one thing that has to come along with that. If a player does it because we're wanna find out you know the causation is you have to be truthful about your history. Have you done drugs had you done steroids have how many open your interview taken in your career you have to be because you need to we need to collect everything correct would you agree with that. You need to be on you can't just say. Yes he has no we doesn't have a without having a history. Of what you have been doing to that point or even past that point. Other than repetitive hits to the head because and so that's the one part of it that. I still as we're getting more more researchers who say this causes that no matter what nothing else is involved one we don't know that yet it could certainly be part of it. But you need to be honest with the rest of your history as far as what you take in what. You've done well listen Marty Byrnes was one of the players that they talked to the Steelers quarterback and I thought his answer was interrupting he's in his second year in the NFL OK he said I definitely know I haven't. I'm going to test positive. For that test is going to Tellme is it going to tell me how much I have to your question about it. We play a physical game in. Humans are made to run into each of noise that. And I thought they went out and I I don't I don't know I we I don't know what his situation of Baghran is that would make him think he knows he has it but yeah it looked. It's it's hard to it's hard to get away from the idea that. Eventually I think this is gonna be a situation a lot in nick Bonner county for example one on for years and years and years and had no issues whatsoever. And now or only in the last few years as he really had some issues that are. That are really changed to his right perspective. On on on his playing days in what it meant to him and you know he's a guy that's been through a lot he saw us on paralyzed from the right down and brain. At the citadel and suddenly for years is like well you know it might not be that bad and now he's realizing in a much later stage in his life that man this is this is. May be much worse than I thought it could possibly be. The only thing called stated maybe put a bow on all this is what what strikes it is different for me is something. And I immediately thought of when this came up and misses the ID used Jake Dowell was an NHL player for awhile with the Blackhawks. Who. For a long time put off getting tested for Huntington's disease something that'd ravaged his Stanley is a devastating story and all this father at his father had died from it he had a brother who suffered from a and he put off for a long time yet about 5050 shot. Of knowing that or if I have this. I know exactly what this is going to did you do the trajectory of my life. We know the effects that that has so if he'd gotten that they test he got a clean bill of health so thankfully for him that was not a part of his life but there was certainty of knowing there is no certainty knowing. Which you were to test in the living for CT eat what that would mean that would be the beginning of understanding that will be the beginning of saying all right if we test and we see that there are a lot of folks. Like you and I were up your war of sound mind and body who have this present Horry. How can that still be a part of the conversation how does that change the way we look at I agree. Because that's why I said my initial thought was that there's not a cure I don't wanna know but I've evolved to that as my initial thought too. I would get it done because if you could just mean too much to research and really. A quick thought on RD burns and he is absolutely entitled to his opinion that scares me because there have been more than a few. People who were absolutely positively sure they have. And the first sign of oh my god I forgot my keys were our forgot that's all it manifesting itself. And these were younger people and they killed themselves. And after they kill themselves the brain was look at and they did not have CT. Salt that TV park where RD I say man. Careful of that thing I know I have so anything in the of that goes into what Chris Long set of but be careful of any little thing I'm happy to say that CPI TTM and now I'm going to die because of that. As we see and as I said on the other and younger people out of kill themselves and never had it's all. I hope they get this way sooner rather than later and I do agree yes you should be can it get tested for this could you could only help him. Recent look at this is a discussion we'll continue to have on the show and office won the old bill continued to have going for in the sport the bottom line the only certainty you would get from the test is knowing that you have a right way or the other right that's what it is right now. Collectively we go to podcast. Great way to go and Mike Mohler senior. Quietly rolled the first our goal doing notre doing a Michael Michael junior here with you Erin Rogers looks he could be cleared he's cleared but he could be. Active activated Israel is frightened that's note after missing seven weeks with a broken collarbone. He put out there and answer remedies back and ready to roll. Is you know I'm healthy I'm ready go forward this on Mike McCarthy was talking about it. As well they've they've sort of found a way to sort of stay in their 76. Right now heading into a huge game this weekend in Carolina against the Panthers and a very very good defense. Aaron Rodgers talked to the folks in Green Bay and let's just say some of us who think he was a little less than truthful. I'm just. Gonna bring new energy and enthusiasm. The hours of practice. So there's an expectation of the way I've played on Sunday how would play it enjoy those expectations. Enjoy reading those are seeking host. That's what it needs to be a leader in his locker moment and the quarterback in this news going out performing and doing your job. And they just let some guys but. I'm not coming back to save his team come back to. Who have played quarterback who had not played and hopefully we always love Everglades collectively and finally when these students. And let's not that I completely agree that means coming back to play quarterback the way plays quarterback. Which conceive this team spirit lives and Tomas I mean her Aaron Rodgers men at that we always say the Packers are and it. Because Aaron Rodgers a quarterback that's exactly he is coming back so he laid out wanna think that by everybody including all the people sitting in that room with him are thinking that yeah. Football team is about knowing your role whether it's being a special team or whether it's being a back upswing offensive linemen and finding a way to influence the game when you get a chance. My effort and energy is the job of guys like baton Aaron Rodgers your role is to go out there and win them these dimpled ball games and did lord knows the Packers haven't put a confident enough roster around you for the most part. In the rest of it to really gives you tons of help in this outsider Jordy Nelson Dovonte at. And while we appreciate. The way he goes about his business journal saying are just here to play my role and needs the he doesn't want to diminish what anyone else is doing. Let's just not kid ourselves OK he's come if if he's just there to not say the team and what's his role Brennan Malia. I mean exactly if you you give the Packers the best chance to win and kudos to read only ten per common back from fourteen down in the fourth quarter sending that game to overtime. In Cleveland they getting the W. But Aaron Rodgers is their because they believe. He gives the Packers the best chance to win these last three games and put them in a position to get into the playoffs. That's why he's playing. That's the only reason he's playing right because without enough he can do things that other players can't. And the second level plays the second reaction plays where you make chicken salad out of you know a lot. That's what he does better maybe than anyone in the NFL yeah that's why he's out. Yeah I am I guess he's just not an assay results stand admitted nor should he well let's just beyond doubt phonetic school B now Hollywood movies that hey guys know it went all out before us are visited let me get my case yeah plummeted and strap on the feed bad prematurely on this one to be a long weekend I think I was gonna love having him back now is a guy got a little more involved in the last two weeks to two wins and Jordy Nelson abolish farmer baby two weeks ago we had five catches last week former for that 323. Cup couple weeks for that long and so all he's a guy that you know he and Aaron Rodgers had to have that special. Iconic quarterback receiver bonds fell. I think you'll see him getting back into the falls along with the others because they are can't spread it around yeah let's make a mistake here he is out there he's out there to get this team shot the playoffs and as I said if if he doesn't win this week. They're going to be done he's gonna wanna keep playing then that decision will be very interesting to keep them up there or just kind of bad the rest of the season and and make sure he doesn't get her anymore I've been very once he's back out on the field he's going to be back on field for good totally agrees so that was straight talk wireless nationwide coverage of America's largest and most dependable four GL TE networks. We have Thomas Davis actually on an outstanding linebacker from the Panthers on and it's alive yesterday. And he said no we're gonna find out quickly how healthy that column. Wow. You tested. Goalie you can window the podcast what day what a show what kind of odds I want a great sports night last. No doubt about it. Rocket mortgage is simple. Allowing you to fully understand all the details and be confident. Your getting the right mortgage for you you get started order rocket mortgage dot com slash Mike's. 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Well writer operate huge media and rarely are all these people one spot so. Mike went out with a few molest side demanded that during some karaoke so we might have the question earlier we threw her out on our social. Picked somebody from ESPN a personality from ESPN what songs should they karaoke like Chris three to intimidate her cute and little drummer boy seat I would answer that I would I would anticipate hitting me Bulldog. Ruler rump upon Paul that is I would I would do that to feed off him like de Kirchner who is this adorable little man dressed up as a little drummer boy rapper had having on the drama wait wait wait wait hold on ladies and gentlemen. Hold the tournament we have found new ground we have he's coming we have exclusive audio. Of junior from the other night Joseph gone. And I have dizzying isn't. Insulin. It means to me means his driver and that's as well as seed or so tax than what. Well as a social poised to benefit from her I don't like always demanded an issue did lot of vocal range and off the welcome I just looked back I came mediacom Santa Claus and ideas for you guys already did. We all like to thank you for Chris or Christopher trio and Jon Gruden back in black that would yeah he's like that that'll look classic rock and roll he did got a lot of guys impressed by mid. Yeah well there I endeared myself to the shortage at all I read how are you guys what is it they haven't done that are really today I. Shocks giants Dodgers are we got coming up later on. Later on this hour cadets on askew the first African American woman army first captain will right its huge honor for her last week issued by the cadets on the field for the army navy game Ron Rivera the head coach at Carolina Panthers will talk about whether he thinks they're Rodgers there to say this. Save it does say the packers' season again his stance against his Panthers that'll be very good Scottie Pippen. Will join us in the 9 o'clock hour talk about all things in the NBA including what is not working with the Oklahoma City Thunder even though they won last night. In India Crocker couple. Or stories before that one involving kids on a plane. When involving a star George Clooney and his wife they were flying to London and they have six month old twins and we all know babies on a plane anybody who's flown. Crying babies on a plane was more subtle play snakes on a plane cry babies on a player is put up by the time he. You're not a hit the shelves that Tom. You know and I always got aggravated. I got aggravated when people that get aggravated yeah by the it's like all the parents want these kids to be crying that's one of the worst people in the world right. The person who is like audibly frustrated that someone else's baby and makes the parents feel bad about it actually have a very. Personal story about that OK before I was here working in Saint Louis and a fly from somewhere in New York. I was sitting on a plane next this guy and yet yet out of metal suitcase and we'll silver medal hearty suitcases. And the and the flight and came to take it away from as a pivotal scratch that they don't scratch I think a pedal until scratch I think. So we've been put up over and there was a apparent with a baby like two rows behind him and the Beatty was crying right in the camps and that kid doesn't fill up on what it will look like twenty minutes. Finally you know me. I'm not a fighter right Garrett but I had two little kids at this time. I looked at him and said if you don't shut up about that parent I'm gonna take that suitcase she cares about to shove it straight up. Why not. I had it with that loser being so concerned about his African metal suitcase and kill and that there who's doing every down he could out to try to keep that baby quite I think he just looked at me like I kid you just said Aniston is a point about when I took another seat on the plane that was like them. How that was like the most bowed out thing I've ever done in my life that I after the parents I I did it for the article I've done that a few times on a plane it was probably more effective than you have been good to these social aggravate you got the parents want their kid to be cross that they're trying to hardly at all I mean I've heard plenty of stories like I remember mom telling a story about Jews traveling alone with me and Jake essentially begged god to crack down I need to be so miserable so horrible time in design dizzy yet it is an abject held for the people. Overall what I guess that happens when you are a millionaire. Many times over yet as soon enough what my story but the article about so he had his wife in the six month old twins were on board and before the plane took off. To everybody around them. They passed out. Noise canceling brand new headphone it's very nice all the people around them and they basically said you know we're sorry in advance of our kids get a little off. You know we apologize ahead of time of the twins cry of course you have the tequila company and they were at the logo but he'll company on a number of pastel. Brand new noise canceling headphones to all the passenger around him or severe around their kids and this made you think of another clue I was not accrued this is fantastic I guess from George came to LA you know to be that actor or a lot of people that helped the markets up on a lot of couches and people that put him up for awhile and help them out fuels tunstall. He he has his his group he calls the boys and he told them at one point he said. Mark September 27 2013 on your calendar to all the boards uses everyone's coming in my house for dinner. And he's that I just wanna let it show all you guys how much you meant to me and how much you mean to me in my life. So where you he's at this dinner all of these fourteen people show up. And at their word are gonna sit for dinner is a designer but large suitcase brand new and. In each suitcase in each case is one million dollars in cash in twenties thought he did and for a few people with a million dollars in cash this check they think hey you did have for holiday help to have Georgia you're listening. Anything you need now I'm here for you buddy is all right yeah no there is no time to date it's bad for me I will be there and hard as different price and the very porous and there were some people that were very well off and they do you know donated the money would certainly brings up another question anybody Pentax is not matter who or how well that was it don't look at play and what is the load up the nomination. Brand new suitcases full of a million dollars and one race. That's unreal that sort of I. I thought it was going to be like fourteen suitcases packed for a trip I would much rather take the job that went fast little lump sum I can do a lot with a million dollar. Of the government doesn't have to know about cool story very cool so this all started with George beat at home trying to be a good parent right strike here the people around him. With those ignore its case on phones on the planes for his twins that are very young. Speaking of parenting. We had Charles Barkley just we did yesterday man now let's just say he had some very strong opinions about what he thinks of Lavar balls parent. This field capital's two years because you know he Airbus talk about he might be a good problem there's a bad no he's not he's just exporters here. Is here I love the cure plan for the lakers I don't know the other two years excuse all of bow big ball border and he has no it was suitable Gallup. He's trying to make money owners' fears. And I just feel said that those kids because they're gonna do what W tilt to the do. He's written. And I just don't like guys at all. Plain and simple. I don't tell me you would could well just go viewers what you're two years randomly Monica you have motel up that the public to have good all the while the machine export in. Yeah appears. And I don't like the guy at all I would do would put him on television because you have no talent whatsoever. Sure I'm not currently under strong Charles never holds back listen we'll tell you that wouldn't you know how we read somewhat feel the same way about Lavar I I wouldn't go as far I don't know him as a writer I see some of the decisions. He's making and I don't think their decisions that I certainly would make. But I also don't know the relationship between the boys and the fathers while when I certainly have my issue with a with a lot of things that he does but. But you know I don't know that dynamic there but I do certainly questioned some of the decisions yet and this is a. A place right sort of recognizes different place that I comment this from because I look at Navarro valls a person who personally I'd like he's and I don't know Lavar ball. So my interest in him as a person is very lol I don't you -- is not someone in my life but my interest in the idea is that he's brought up like we talked about with Jerry Jones and Roger Goodell he's brought up interesting points about the idea of building a brand for herself instead of having to do kowtow. To the normal players in those game whether it's shoes apparel or otherwise. Alternate routes against the NCAA that we've heard talked about it anyway. That now he's exploring around that we would funds it may be grounded and selfishness I don't know I don't know him enough to question that I don't really care enough because those things are more just enemy but I heard has brought up. On the Jim Leavitt charger was too got the other day and Dan made this point and I thought it was like kind of as you guys the other day. There seems to be a difference in the way that parents in non parents respond to Lavar ball. I as a non parent someone who can't really grasp that relationship of a father or mother and child. Maybe have the luxury of being able to just look at Lavar ball as. The things that come off him in his wake the things that I can take his interest and while you guys are four I think more conditioned deceive each humanity of that relationship. Absolutely look. Once you become apparent you hope. That most people realize that's the most important job you'll ever have kept. And you wanna make sure that you would do anything you want to protect those kids and make sure that there'll Cain do anything you can to help them. Ina and I think that. Like you I don't know the relationship I can't speak to that I and I don't wanna be that guy that's making a judgment from afar without actually knowing I will say. For whatever reason then the things look very strange. Let's just take Alonso for example because he's out on his own now. He seems to have a very good relationship with his father despite all the things right you and I would do completely different right so that gives me pause when I dealt when someone delves into this conversation because I don't know how that dynamic work. Yet you just look at decisions. Mike we we know. More than a few parents out there who have made decisions for their kids in colleges are guys have been to 345 different colleges. It doesn't work here for a week ample market out we're trying here or not we're trying here. You know and kids go along with Beck has the father want to have the best interest of the kids in mind no matter in this sport. But before. I think for all of our rial also see it as from a parent's side as a tool to self serving as well. You know too much a look at me you know I may be trying to help my kids but look at me along the way as well and that Beckett the little tedious and and right out to me talk a little bit too much white noise yet. I think the part of this that really skews it is the business aspect because he is someone's trying to build a business with these kids so part of that is this error of self promotion. Because I think when you look at that. You got to be the first to admit that with parents there's different styles and there's no real one right way to do it right and so that is while his moves are ground that things you do are grounded love I feel like that's enough reason to look at something and say. Our second please understand where your coming from. Is that what we're dealing with here were maybe even if that's the case because the business is president in the middle of it it's a harder time to reconcile that. I'm again asking the stuff because you're as a perspective an interest me. It is a totally different perspective what you've been through data gathering Intel you understand what's going on so I can understand how UC UC the entertainment value that more than anything last week we come out from a completely different level. And what that that's a thing at the end of the day you hope that he's. At doing what's best for the kids not what's best for the brand or what's best for him and we'll see how that plays art won't fall with these two kids sixteen and nineteen year old now. Going nosed play basketball for a cost of one price of a big ball brand shoes a month basically 500 box. We'll see what having dinner so this was by choice yeah this is not quite there this is by choice to be both these kids were at a place. And they were pulled from a place is one I know suspended but at some point who's gonna play again in the other pulled out of high school sixteen and nineteen years old so we'll see how that plays out going forward for them. And will continue now it is time for ladies and gentlemen. Over under its goal in a week ago. Carter brought to you by Amazon music unlimited for a limited time only sign up today and received three months for 99 cents at Amazon.com slash music unlimited you guys ready yes illegal over under. Over under point 5100 yard games this season for Josh all burden on real I mean. And they're they're they finish up against the ravens can be tough defense their prayers are never good defense to launch this spiritual. Do you another back Samkon struggled and we don't and we don't know I'll be playing well and Frontline for Josh Gordon I mean already he's had about what three catches 69 are forecast to 85 yards. Plus he has always. A separate threw away from Boston any catch he makes so. I I definitely would take you over on this I think he gets at least one and because Dubya volume police on that last game eleven targets to no longer at the four receptions so DeShawn Kaiser quickly realizing this is far and away his best option and that receiving corps why not. Feed the beast dominant over as well and I don't think it's much of a contest to be perfectly honest look hue Jackson says Susie came back in the lineup. We're gonna we're gonna get a ton of plays ready. For this kid and I think it's going to come eventually is gonna have that. That bust out game like you said we saw inventory thirteen miss two games still lead the league in receiving yards with three different quarterbacks that were named Brandon Wheaton. Brian Hoyer and Jason Campbell. Okay that's pretty impressive right I am absolutely gonna take the over. On that one staying in the NFL over under point five playoff wins for the Eagles this post season. I said it. When when Scott heard there was gonna go to their full I I am oddly still confident in that team. YouTube make a run in the playoffs. I because of what they have around them often to my worries me a bit now that your quarterback a little more stable in the pocket doesn't add these capability. That Wednesday it but I still gonna go over with that I do think. They have a good enough team all around. To get more than one play elsewhere. Yeah I'm gonna go over I think the strength and I'm not much competent past that IMO I'm a lot less comforting that you all go over for this but I don't know if I see them getting a second round win. Once you get up and that territory again with how competitive. The NFC has been top to bottom the season well look it all depends on whether or not we believe they can get home field advantage which they are having the inside track on right now because. Of the win. Over the LA rams. So if you're giving them home field advantage are basically saying they're gonna get to the NFC championship game. If you take the over I feel like for radio conflict and you know diversity I should take the under but I think you're I don't know how the rest I'm gonna be as I have taken me over here I believe if they play at home. They'll find a way to get to win the they have been rolling. At home this year and I Anderson Carson once was a big part of that but so was that running game. 140 plus yards per game on the ground second only the Jacksonville Jaguars and you with four different backs and I think that's the thing that gives me. Hope he for gives an eagle fan hope that because they have that rule our running game that they can rely on and nick doesn't have to make a million different place for them to win. I think imitate the over there as well all right. Move on over under 111. Home runs and John Carlos Stanton and Aaron judge will combined for a next season they combined for a 111. In 2017 as a team the Yankees took the most last year to 41 the giants at least 2128. Man it you know what you're just you're so water just say over and if you just wanna think it's going to go up. I don't know for some reason the first thing McCain in my was under. You know as I know primed for a regression it does it just seems primed to say it can't be that good while I'm not saying they're not going to still win a ton of games but. I think I'm gonna go under on this one. I think I'll go over just because of what we saw from Aaron judge at the end of the season last you remember that poll that slump. After the home run derby worked he had to kind of readjust to the way pitchers had adjusted to him adding his ability to do that he demonstrated down the stretch in the post season some are you carry that for I think that sustainable big is that the big thing started in there is used Stanton. What more home games yankees instead of Marvin the difference in the park yes that is all I should maybe rethink my under but because of that but I'm not going dramas equipment and you ominous say under because how runners at the people have back to back fifty home run seasons you know you know so. I mean a judge was great it was great. He's a new surroundings. I just I just don't think that's gonna happen so I mean the odds of having back to back fifty home run seasons are very very low especially. In this era where it pitching is sort of come back a little bit. And it's not all about the belong molecule was in the ninety's in the late nineties with Canseco. And Sosa and McGwire and lets us I'm gonna take you just I'm an up on the play the history card I'm playing my history carjacking have. I don't think you have two players look back to back if the home run seasons on the take to be under there he says three players write a three players are drawn back to back. That the Oregon so I you know does the fact that these two would do it in back to back seasons I ominously milk. And then bring you played his back later when they both had 65. I can't wait dubbed the one right on a winner with a banner that has my history Carter crossed out just a lot I will do that. Are we move on over under two and a half. Categories at the killer bees leave in the league at the end of the season and talk with the Steelers no team in NFL history has ever had. Quarterback with the most passing yards a running back with the most rushing yards and receiver with the most receiving yards right now Big Ben is second to Tom Brady. He was first for the Monday night game and Levy on Dell's number one in receiving and rushing yards and Antonio Brown is number one receiving it's over under two and a half while I'm Greg and to me the only question of this. Is the Steelers are playing for something by the last game right because I think you they're gonna do I mean I think. Big Ben because of the way you ether could throw the ball what lay beyond I'll leave it on a short pass and turn into. Passing yards at Ben gets or the fact aboard Antonio Brown does after the catch. Or deep balls as well. I'm gonna go over I think all three. Are going to lead in their particular categories passing rushing and receiving arts I'm gonna go under I don't think Ben is gonna past Tom Brady I think what we saw against Miami is gonna end up being an ex way a way exception. And not the rule that he gave him a bit of a leg up because of that going into this weekend my question is who's in second behind Levy on an a because you bring up what the Steelers end up having to play for down the stretch that's going to factor a lot because one of the guys behind them. Have to play for her you look at the guys that might be close early in the hunt is 54 part 59 yards binders actually three guys within are less than a hundred yards. Of. Lady I'm bell Antonio Brown is a thought he'd 200 some ahead. Now I ma and a younger and going against it Yonder Hopkins on a Houston team that no longer has the died it was giving him and I don't of those bold yards Atlanta struggle Julio Jones. That one's own up let me unveils the interest and want to scream on his struggled on in the back after the season talked early I early Todd Gurley could be in the same situation though we don't know how much they'll try to play forum stretch at some point well the other thing you know we we've talked about sort of jokingly. Chris Boswell is now a killer Vietnam wondering where he is on the points list and kicking and if I if I qualifies. As it seems like every week he's deadly game winner. For the Pittsburgh Steelers. I think I'm gonna go under two because I think that there might be out. Bar bottles third in points by the way so we we we put Boswell that I would take the over but I they wanna take the under because I do think that that. The Brady may surpass band who has just. So and that we go to this which I think is really energy Todd BJ had his mock one point oh draft. The first mock draft after the end of the college football regular season. Four and a half. Quarterbacks taken in the first round of the 2018 NFL draft he has for Sam Arnold Josh Rosen Josh Allen and baker may feel. The other that would would be to make it over four and a half would be probably Mason Rudolph that from Oklahoma State I'm gonna go I'm gonna think I think it's going to be forced from an eagle under on that and quarterback it is. Lot of teams can help themselves and work its if he has. That back after the first round assembly trade operative at that cap to grab another one to make it the fifth one right now author under mostly for now I'm an ominous hammered me under is well bigger mayfield is going to be interesting to watch him is just in general. His rise and fall his stock couldn't be higher right now eleven out of the playoffs. To really show often and how does he do in the meetings and everything that we don't that we know can change a lot well I'm also gonna take the under prepared different reason. We're gonna have a glut of veteran quarterbacks available right in the market this year. You have Kirk cousins you have. Look Teddy Bridgewater is contract is up case Keenan's contract is up San rappers contract is Jimmy drop was contract is up like that might be Kansas City Chiefs move on from Alex Smith. Is Eli Manning going to be moving out of new York and all those veteran quarterbacks on the market. I think that'll be under because you'll you'll have your choice between. Rookie that we really don't know about or can we go and deal with you know a veteran that we know summit to be under because of that glut the market. Then we go the high. It was all sort of one big Julia jello mold the period to show anywhere about why. We are delighted to have join us now on the phone lines is Simone askew she is the army first captain beef first ever. African American woman to have that honor including that honor meant she led the cadets onto the field last Saturday for the army navy game. And she joins us now small thanks so much for being with us congratulations. On an amazing honor what did that feel like breaking that barrier and leading that team on the field. That it's anything mean in that especially because army navy game when islands isn't it great was it. Wayne which I became attracted to the academy is well it was quoted in that hopefully maybe not in the snow this year hopefully they're the young girl a young guy happened to stand looking at. They can in and being inspired to come to west by Wednesday. It would create. It. Its interest X amount because your mom said it it started when she saw the navy midshipman as a kid wanna Hartsock did formation yes so that it was the navy midshipman that got too involved but somehow you ended up an army. Yeah though it. Initially the patent enables patent mean. Primarily because it's our duty to my house in and it really artificial justification in as I learned more about options in the military. Actor graduation at the Naval Academy verse is at West Point I definitely was more attracted to arm he added it to people business. In comparison to air force navy where your primary is working with. Machine. There were talking testimony as secure as first captain again its highest ranking cadet in chain of command. You've got that you are the role you had since August 14 so you obviously knew what was coming with the army navy game in and they had seen it obviously so. Leading up to that. And the barrier that you had broken is as well you have a lot of time to kind of think about that how nervous were you coming up to that end and and the thought profits of just what you're accomplishing the day of the army navy game. Well that the good thing is that we had practiced week they connect it goes by now we're down at. The law you know practicing remarked on for about two hours today in the old though it wasn't anything we were. Unprepared or by any means I would say this note do it off because he couldn't either lying on the well off the health guide and to our respective position that we had acted and overcame that but you know I I think it's more just being really proud of our academy as the block on that field and as stating that eight we expect. As we head into the all came. Well listen that was a huge honor but it's one of many honors that are coming your way is on refers captain Simone askew joins us on goal can we go you're set to graduate. From West Point in May of 2018 as a second lieutenant. And then you're off to Oxford as they Rhodes scholar correct. Area so what are you what will you be studying. Over an Oxford. So I'm looking at diplomatic steady and potentially limited Aggies held more than likely due to master's programs small that the there but my that this is genocide prevention eighteen that will help me or is that passion of mine it and a man looking act. To apply it. So I gotta tell yet you this sounds so amazing but your really bring in Mike and I doubt there are much older than you would we have not have a little things you've done in your lives DI ME have you put into perspective the things you've been able to accomplish at the age of 21 already. I don't think maybe you and I gradually and how little time to breathe on China packed like finals at Wendy's. And once I can get over that hung in May be thinking that I can very little. And we know you have to get to class here a few minutes but also your sister Nina rose seventeen has been conditionally accepted to West Point. So how much did you influence that doors that something she saw you and and soaked through was a byword did you talk her into this or was it just by action of what you see you now where we're TCU accomplished. Does he actually became an army and it in his she found out I was in need it and at a young she I would attracted me to name and as a result of course he had to you and me and has been an army and really since he was in a raid though I didn't at the talker in anything it. If anything she talked me into coming here now I'm really excited for her to potentially has here next year and be a part of this thing on green line and have. Well listen I'm sure the laundry line is just as proud as you as you are a bit but let's I know you gotta run to class but we've all been dying to know what class are you headed to right now. Ought to be had been meeting with the comment on for about an hour and then I'll head in my eyes they scholarship program by an act that. And what what is the real quickly do we know you gotta go you don't we just did like math and English and history when we were school wonders what's the most interesting name of one of the classes you're taking right now are that you have taken. I was in my favorite one was American exceptional at them and in that we've talked a lot about. Ligature and the theory behind Mary Kane and a lot of bar. Now. National leaders in that America is the best country in the entire world and just arguing whether it's justified or not. And may be attempting to prove that or dispute that and really it was that it's on the discussion in that can dispute yet that it hasn't been that we claim and really think he's I was really out costs for me to deftly talents a lot of thought and I. I had being in the military. And being an American buy it it saw. Beneficial to help the island in new perspective Richard. Did you get today. I did. Did had as well just triggered by the way if if if anything I think what you're doing now personifies American accent especially so Simone we really appreciate you being with this congratulations. On the honor this past week and I'd get the class we don't want to be labeled and there. Goalie can lingo the podcast. Let's not expect too much there's only one person out there that expect we'll wait to watch part of this guy who really knows that is. It's father. By the way you know who doesn't care at all about the packers' playoff chances group they'll be Ron Rivera has really about his own of the airline apparent there's and he joins us now on goal can we go rob thanks for being with us always appreciate your time. So Aaron Rodgers coming back this week. What did that do if anything to how your gonna game plan this Green Bay Packers offense. And didn't do anything guy's domain you know and honesty good few weeks ago when a lot of you know we first heard that he was brought the ball on the sidelines and it was before the Pittsburgh game. Maybe before that you know the anticipation of what that he was coming back we knew that their whole goal was trying to keep themselves in playoff position they've done Matt. So it doesn't surprise me we weren't surprised them and we thought we should just go at game plan for what they do that they've that they've done in the past with the whipped Aaron. And then react from there so our our our whole attitude and our whole outlook on coming up against Green Bay what we expected to play get there Rogers. You know our rob a lot of times you know rather than scouting the team you're gonna replace self scouting a lot of times American can take care of a lot of issues for you and other than. Getting some healthy players back what is been the biggest difference on the field for you guys that went in five your last six games. Well I think it's exactly that is we have gotten to know the guys back but I do think we're playing better and I heard her comment about you know at the end of the year you're applying. And that's what they don't we wanted to do would be trading up once we got into December yourself an opportunity to get into the blouse I think a big part to his ER quarterback. Again he didn't have a normal loss seat yet surgery to have OJ mini camp. Yes yeah a little setback during training camp didn't happen type straight after it like to. Couple that with with some of the new players you have around him couple that with the other the trade we made the middle of the year. And I think we've really started to find our footing well all seem to I think is very important especially this time here. Ron Rivera parent does that coach joins us on goal can we go and run we had Thomas Davis. Well on not FL live yesterday and he talked a little bit about the confidence this team has knowing that they have gone into. New England and beaten the patriots and then had a home game against one of the hottest teams in the NFL. The Minnesota Vikings and really push them around I know is a close game. Down the stretch but really dominated that team up front and then Kim makes a super play with that 62 yard run to set up the game winning touchdown by Jonathan Stewart. Where is the confidence level of your team heading into this matchup. I just thought I figured where it needs to be hit especially this Tommy here are the guys feel good about the things that we've accomplished we've done so far. You know again it is really easily about what have you done for me like these so it. You know all I can disappear you don't come out play well. But she gets another good football team led by a very good football by a very good quarterback. How is you know we talk about all Greg Olsen coming back he comes back connector Dan sits out. Such a great player Ed Dickson and quite honestly is on a nice job sitting here at times tremendous no doubt about that but. How Greg obviously seemed to be a week to week guy where oh where is he now. I don't think he's saying another big step I think last week played the entire game really build confidence Cilic nothing about it was slated to come back I guess New York. That was a turf field that was that you know that that that new Turkoglu rivers call. And the next game against New Orleans is on that turf and so. After what happened with New York we opted not to play him against New Orleans to get a chance you get to. Minnesota on the grass. Dramatic game and he had a lot of confidence give out of practice yesterday it looked like the old Greg you ran really good round yesterday seemed to move around cut pivot off that boat. What was really no thought about it so. I think is confident this it's this it's back where it needs to be in terms of being healthy. Ron Rivera with us on golden wing go in you mentioned cam and the things he's been able to do we talked about that 62 yard run. He's only averaging about 210 yards passing per game the lowest of his career but is rushing yards are up to over 45. Which would be the second most in the season so as you're looking at cam in the way he's gonna lead this offense is it more about his running now hours of orbit trying to get that passing game going. Are you more about keeping the balance more than anything else you don't. In sum game do you got to throw the ball broke during yards he had an end and and the result and a victory for us. Other times when it went when he needed to run the ball he's trying to force and older victory especially down the stretch so far. I think the one thing about a diluted did not this is running but that's running the football game that you can control the clock you can keep the other opposite side of the field. It helps your defense that it helps to know your on your team at all so I think that's part of a more important thing is really we know what we need to do what he does. You know he's got to come through force whether destroy the quality is running but right now him run the ball so opposite has been very effective. Did do that point since his rookie year he's the only player in the NFL with a lease five rushing touchdowns every season not the only quarterback right the only player that has at least five rushing touchdowns every season since 111 again we're target Iran are very head coach of the Carolina Panthers he was a second rounder back in me for the bears won that Super Bowl 85 NFL coach of the year 2013. And 2015 off the beaten path on one we saw that game in buffalo with the snow hi how you look at where you are where you are I don't mind playing in the snow kind of a guy. And are. I do I do you have no choice being that Chicago shooter pure as snow and sleet hail whatever you have to play or fog that matter. That yes you heard. It was a lot on it really wanted this one little thing that you drew about we give to somebody go to plan you know the whole bunch of snow or rain on a muddy field. Yeah I saw that it was kind of cool deal it is funny that I I was able to sit back and forth but some of the guys and all the buffalo obviously. We laughed about it what they went through did you when you win for them so it was. All rob we know you gotta of big game to get ready for sure to keep you too long but I wanna ask you. About Cam Newton and his post game attire I mean the brim with sort of thing as for lack of a better term this past weekend. And Tim Hasselbeck has come up with a with a saying he doesn't think what cameras wearing as an outfit he think every week it seems to be a costume. How much did you guys wait to see what Cam Newton is gonna Wear those post game press conferences. We've got to look forward to we we we we we we we find that you earned it. It's a good thing is you know he's just make a statement on as well you know you want to be his own guy. Dylan and I think that's that says that's part of who hears that and so or you know I mean it is. It commander for really no harm and I am not quite sure why you feel so people get all this order upset about it because. Again he's just you know he just kind of been his old guy make his own statement. And that's off the field. You know that that that that to me really I'm not concerned about it is just not a good thing he's doing on the field. I don't think it. It is urge anybody in the locker room unless let somebody take offense to the way he dresses. The statement. I just don't I don't get it but you know this is like Fred says to me we may be interesting important. And I know by the way you look grow where he looks better than we were looking at there's no doubt about that. Rob that was kind of a fun question I want to ask you serious when I I gave kind of you know when you're in the Lee we're in the league. Basically the same time we're the same age. If if what we are reading is reading is true and a few years and they do come out with they HTTP. Test for. People that are living this right now could only be. And and an autopsy. Is that these are the rule would you get that cast its. No he can you know did you biggest. There's so that a lot of guys that played before us said that lived well into their seventies and eighties I mean they they they they had for the most part. Well good lie and and and and Dylan at the end DC bid to have the natural thing happened so. I'm not overly concerned with it I mean right now I think you know what I'm I'm still pretty good like these and everything. Maybe if the fire started having a little something some issues maybe I would but right now I don't think so because you go back do you think about all Geithner definitely into the. Seventy today and M and you know I mean one guy that I would kind of look toward a lot of things as coach does he's might pick a player in the league you know. W I know we've got the same felt fine but the fact that for the most part Coca-Cola and it did that it probably do this because there. Willis rob we appreciate the time and I know you've got a busy game coming up this weekend if you didn't personally appreciate this spend a little bit of time thanks so much extra. Thank you got. DC he's in the best of gold within windows podcast mutual to subscribe on the ESPN. Apple podcast to listen every weekday morning at 6 eastern on ESPN radio. ESPN UMB.