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Women's team beading candidate or watch him alive. Curling right now the man taking on Canada semi finals some files it's 22 and eight yup. So I that that is one good thing about the Olympics and as time came we do get live events while our. Because it's like 8 eastern here so that's 10 o'clock at night out there are sell this is up it's cool to watch all we got that out we got a call fond the other grand team curling yeah we are we don't come on now so we've got we've got live curling going on there. Well over the right we'll get Tiger Woods teeing off. In his round of first time again watching that on on the Golf Channel live events on water right all right just now usual energy gives a little jealous launch of live events and ball at this time at the Olympics you women's hockey team news. Party like it's 99 they are Iceland's 1998. Okay well ceremony you know. I don't on the job or gold medal in Nagano so. That's good we'll get to that a little bit also see God's will join us in a few minutes and injuries got some interesting things. To say about well me being back yes and also also someone else he thinks is stolen of one of his ideas are hot I sense a trend with this man. Look at this adamant about start right now where. What's trending and we'll start with what you were just talking about Mike how about it teen USA the women's hockey team in a thriller in a shoot out the first ever shoot out in the Olympics. Break this stranglehold that team Canada had a on the gold medal game. Winning 32 yeah 24. Off in a role candidate has won at the Olympics like gold in the role. To really isn't a concert again. Vitamin a poet tree limbs they beat us 21 in the game that was pretty chipping this and obviously goes overtime and then. To an extra shootout in the 61 war Jocelyn glamour or Davidson hits. Dissident credible triple Deke that the patients had talked to fake editor twin sister Monique on the team credits their coach. When they were North Dakota for teaching them that you used the patient to talk to do it. Was was just fantastic in and goes to an Oprah corner of the net for basically the easy goal I've today after the tripled eight it was very very cool to see. And they still had to make a stop though that was the first shot in the sixth I shoot out. We make the stop we get the win in glove slide and hugs all around us what what a great moment and what's interesting is is Canada has owned. The Olympics we're kind of held right with them in the world's yes world's gold we have eight they have ten world silvers we have ten mandates so it's eighteen. Gold silver peace between us and Canada but in the Olympics they have clearly. Clearly been the dominant team and now we took one against them last very very very cool to watch very excited for those women. It was fantastic and by the way. Lateral Davidson gets all the credit in the world for the tripled the shot that one and it was fantastic but let's be honest if Amanda castle. My boys the sister of penguins Phil Kessel had not come up with a huge goal it would've ended right there we were down 21. And she came up and went in went top shelf right side up to get it to 22 because of that one had not gone. It would have been over strike that it would have been over right there so she came through with a clutch goal. To extend it. And then we went three to win and Stew we went ahead and then we made the save so as I look Webb wrote Davis and gets all the credit in the world for that gold was fantastic. But of Amanda castle and not come through that top shelf right side goal we'd be singing a different tune today and we talk about a fifth straight gold medal for the Kenny why. A team game man all Zetterberg got to contribute even know again as we talked earlier in the shoot out I'm not the biggest fan in the world of it now definitely exciting there is no doubt. About that but that to me one of the great things about playoff hockey championship hockey is. Is just keep playing hockey yeah and then that goal to win it all is just so so excited and someone put it onto what are Phil Kessel should now be always introduced as the brother of a lot of it was awesome just that we continue to. I have not heard this story this is amazing Eagles wideout also on Jeffrey had surgery to repair a full terror in his right rotator cup on Wednesday. And you begala must have done that the Super Bowl no no no he didn't pre season. And played the entire season for the Eagles. With a torn wrote it would have been down that road not a whole season at all I did my I think I played like the last I think. Six or seven games of the season with one. Obviously different for different positions holiday I can affect you and inquired isn't he a lot of wide receiver in my gosh I mean you know he's a guy it. And and you know you see this occasionally some guys wanna get fixed right away some say OK I can play through it. The guy played sort of played through incredible and there's one to play through it I think to play short and play the way you did a play that well now you see amend in the slaying after the surgery and we're a great time to get your surgery and and have the worry about bringing this happens after you've got the Super Bowl trophy and got to carry general habits of very very. What the best line in this whole story is it is this when Jeffrey initially suffered the injury in training keep training camp but opted to play through the discomfort. Yeah and then does a good option by the way it's a little more than just come out dot torn rotator cup is slightly more out discomfort I would say it's and the idea that he played through all of that and more sway Super Bowl winner. Good job on him congratulations well done so. I just another a Philly by the Phillies special burial for the Eagles they continue to bask in the glory of their first ever Super Bowl championship. Also on Jeffrey plane through the pain in any classic Philly way so good for him. And good for the Eagles well we can delay is no longer ladies and gentlemen. It is time to bring amend your ID DSI can bring Amanda man the legend. A Stewart got from the day and lebed's are Joe's with us and still wide going I am pretty sure you where you gonna go right up the top so let's get it up you just. I try I mean listen it's nice to you to fill in for Jason pits today that it side better. That very very night. But it out just like that that I am I miss my right wing golly miss them I don't know where every wedge he's got up all these and Robert Wright has got to admit right wing go. I didn't let the dogs that are perfectly you get more time off after the ball all season. Then upload all liars do what you've been weighing on a bit in Maui well why would you come back early. Now there you go. And I got the Applewhite but I think your presiding you want a bill in this segment what palm trees in the background that you. I went there aren't as you well most of guts there are no palm trees in Bristol so I went to palm trees and I stayed awhile by the way. I don't say as long as the players and otherwise it would be back till April yazoo city music over the third green every April without. I don't know just more boring at all women before doing this show trail hosting NFL live for fifteen years at the end of every football season when that out the Molly and just because it came on the show that wouldn't change in quite honestly. I don't blame him out and dead man's gotta have a code zero Nazi that's. They don't eliminate Hezbollah lives in a blog your partners it would certainly tonight stable my whole career the people not keeping score at home you know what happened happened. Well our though we've. I arts and got speaking you're keeping score ECB keeping score those that are stealing your ideas. The latest rating our buddy rich Eisen. Stealing one of your latest baseball ideas so. Take a suit that your idea how was stolen however they went down. God this is absolutely amazing because three years ago three years ago I actually put this idea that two people Jim Leland. And to rob may hamper the commissioner. A Major League Baseball both of them left me all the boat strangely Jim Leland did like my idea. Of resenting the batting order tonight anybody didn't like the idea of smaller outfield walls with a ball great on the other side the players could dive got the ball but feel safe about it landing on the Leyland liked that idea yet but I like that idea. It's a plot like Leyland liked that idea every business every other idea that we had. I presented as the Robin hampered I think magic get back because we think about it of the three major sports baseball the only one. Everett said it perfectly. It's just random as to who you know is batting in the night hitting a begin that you're drilling it. In the end the day the ball's gonna be in the broad changes and at the end of the game is gonna be carrier instead going to be stepped Karrie given the rent. I Indiana ballots you know all likelihood going to be Tom Brady's hand at the end of the game it's going to be. An Arab rogers' hands at the end of the gate that doesn't happen in baseball and all but suggesting that the commissioner at the time. Is that the matter does have the ability we call that a magic back to take a guy even if it's out aborted take a guy like John Carlos bitten. And put a mob in the ninth inning. To give that team a chance to get some runs on the board and get themselves back into the game we call that a magic bat. Now Rick Johnson he has more credibility that I didn't. He is ticket is one step further he's actually talked to a Major League executive nameless but he is that he's claiming that he thought to a Major League Baseball executives so one of doing things that India. He did speak to that executive I just stole my idea ram would it because he has more credibility now everyone's talking about it more. That Major League executive but he did talk to do that guy stole my idea Eddie David's eyes that so what we're gonna do today on our show is somehow. It to the bottom of this Rick Eisen will join us on the show to get to the bottom of whoever stole my idea from it but again I don't understand how theft is involved here and anyway she performed. How do you not understand that transcended three years ago on lap out of the room now Majorly according to red eyes and executives of Major League Baseball or cereals are seriously considering the idea that I presented to them three years ago. Little that's one of. Hole but I I mean you're claiming rich Eisen stole it are all rich Eisen said was that paper Majorly executives are talking about and understand how you. I don't understand the leap that you make. Saying okay you talked about three years nor I get that that's great. And then eyes and talk to an executive and I you're saying that Eisen stole your idea even always just quoting an executive be doctor. Listen I've arrived immigrant blaze where I could say this I am questioning whether or not rich eyes in has actually spoke to a Major League executive I think his producer heard his ideas that reckless and we're gonna sit on this for year. They're not gonna bring it up you don't talk about it then you bring it up it's gonna be you or store your guy actually got a clumsy got. But it's going to be your stories of what I'm doing here is I've questioning. Whether or not Rick Johnson is actually spoke to a Major League executive wealth and not get mad at myself because all they do. Two years ago three years ago a year ago with a Hank I spoke to a Major League Baseball executives and he's that they were thinking about it. And I wonder about and what would rent with a story about it's that bad I don't know now well mom I'm little supplements are not doing. You're about to be a little more upset because this is commissioner rob man from a Michael Kay show on ESPN 98 solid hours today. And he was asked about the ninth inning IDS to listen in their big guy. They're also put two years there and and and in my view should continue to be discussed. In the competition committee. On that particular idea it's never had likes in terms of making it out of a competition committee. And you know I think it was he had spent judicious. Think Michael would create complete conviction without looking. A move came just forward because we do as. Great respect and history and tradition to the English and don't wanna move Clark. So that pretty much tells you rich didn't steal it because they have talked about it. Are apple then that's behind them up to get to the bottom of which executive try to hit that you did that I want you go back on vacation de Villa tied. I've got out of it at the thought I'd be good I penalties on the job. But got do you like the idea do you actually like the idea in the ninth inning or manager to reset the lineup or just give a you know got by John Carlos theater Aaron judge to be down two runs in the bottom of the night. If the Yankees just put those gotten a lot of in the night and you try to get themselves back in the game I have the bigger the real local idea you want your best players deciding games in the final moments of these games. It's creative I would give you that whether you're one batter Roy if you get three batters. Two goal in a row like a like a side up is very creative I I eight. I think for baseball it will be too much of a departure. All of their norm around like like rob Manfred said his. Okay were you know we got to be judicious in how we change some of the rules. But I do like the thought process or else I'll stick with you on this let's just say everybody stole from you I want you to pin down rich guys and today make him give up resources. That you don't you know what well I mean you know I don't know bridges getting of the sources but you don't would put them out of jobs data backup plan in that's. Probably when the top of supposed to be doing here it's kind of been that out there to guide out. Dennis thought it as you can never ask a guy did as a journalist that is score you can never ask a guy who's this horse is he's never gonna give it yet up and we're proud that I was even get out guys. Might it still got is with us from the elements -- -- do God's is what you call that a magic bat is that would you call that the magic about I called yeah I called it a magic bat I had when I actually like the idea I don't usually pretty cool ideas pretty radical act you are too if you want to let my owner Roman candle making her out of Rome what it hasn't been picked up steam here Bob here's the most important question I'm sure you've thought about this if they do enacted how much compensation would you want to this idea. Rob 100% of whatever the compensation is that would be money. Right you can audio drug money is the reason the reason I'm not going to back Q is the commission decided has no legs I don't wanna be part of an idea that won't work so you're on your own children. All right my ankle affect. Let's move on dot do something obviously a little more serious than this the out. Well one Raoul ball and get getting a 123 wins vacated the national championship sign banner asked to come down final four appearance. Vacated as well. A do you think that is a proper. Punishment there was along with some other things but I proper punishment or if not what do you think is a better punishment for situations like this. Odds are Greg questioned my first thought it it's amazing Jack mills is on our show yesterday. NCAA any chance he gets and I view him as the voice of college basketball right now. It turns a bot in terms of everyone in the sports media. I Jed mills knows this more of the inner workings of the sport and the NCAA. As well as anyone and you guys know that nose on your show but he's a very Smart got. Jay bell is the only with the NCAA did by taking a Chevy chip away from Louisville. That was fair and it he says it's fair that's enough for me out of what are your former Petit don't want there's I don't wanna hear from I just don't. Rick Pitino is acting like nothing happened act is school that everything that is happening to him at his school is unjust and unfair. And it's ridiculous they had to your question Mike no I do not make it's the right thing to do. Odd because it needs to be torture itself because in the odds of Louisville in the minds of those kids. They want a national championship. They are brings to prove it they don't need that batter up there you've heard the kids about a catalyst and I've got a ring I've got the memories in my mind we won a national championship these that year itself. I hate doing this you got that I want to discuss that with the I don't think this is the right punishment but I'm not certain what the right punishment it like these guys have discussed that at all because we now there's I don't know what the right wanted to look at that that's the hard. Art do gods that we we agree look at mean everybody knows Reggie Bush won the Heisman Trophy 2005 and half and we saw what happened saw mold of the drove me so you we can pretend. Like it didn't happen but we all know it did and I and a what I hate more than anything though is punishing. Current kids. Or our current administration for something that happened you know five years before some of those guys got there so I don't like that part of it either I don't like. Take away certain scholarship right with the team that they're now from some of that happened before so I don't know what the answer that's hard I don't either but I did daddy vacating elect pretending it didn't happen seems silly to me. I'm with you I I I which used to be guy I don't know either you know and I. We know we had my son who lived this with his twelve wins his senior year god vacated and he's like. What does the punishment is like at times you don't know your punishing because while you may see the person out front we might be punishing who's behind the scenes that still may be culpable Howard they getting punished are they get him punished so. It's kind of a catch all punishment too because we can zero in on one person. You know you go back to Reggie Bush saying oh by the time that all that's quarter or Reggie Bush is already in the pros as it was Pete Carroll. So you punish you know those those are the ones responsible bully approaching fort. So that the students of today get punished a student athlete. But that doesn't seem right but. I I'm I'm review I don't wanna sit there and say oh this is wrong and not have some kind of reason iron or answer as to what's a better way to do it. But it is absurd argument Greg pointed to the people who pay for the kids who were currently playing at Louisville those kids who played a won that national championship in 2013 days they'll think they've won a national Chevy debate brings to prove it now Alex teams and coaches who we're going to be that's globally Pollard. We have to pay for all the work we Tino and that you know quite frankly that it's popular athletic administration's mistakes that got the paper that. Opera many many years to come and that's unfair so and so we all agree the wayward noted that was not terrific what they do it but none of us have an answer as to what is there were you like to do it. And that's that I hate doing that but I don't I really naturally don't have the answer to. The only the only way it seems to do it did this sort of get at the core of the promised is to deal with the money. Right and and hit the schools and financially more than then you sit there and say OK if you nail one huge financially. Does that then heard another minor sport a lesser sports I would do better not get the support of minutes more innocent people. Giving out except it's isn't it. Like I don't work because. But liking good times those sports carry the rest of the sport right yes I'm with things aren't right not so I don't like is that's what we should factor into the equation you move involved because those words don't exist and it's not for basketball football well. No you're right dead though the budgets or promote those sports are carried by revenue revenue sharing sports are profit for Briggs sports which are football and basketball. At most schools are still we always a lot of phone with you it's great to be back and talk to on the show today. And we normally keep it light give it funny keep moving but I know that what happened to park and flora is very close and very near and your huge that's really close to where you live and you wanna talk about that little bit. I did guys I appreciate it we talked about it last week judge Wright went out when you were off and die I and I appreciate you guys allow me to talk about just quickly here. Again you know I drive by stomach Douglas just about every day on my way home it's walking distance from my house I would I drive bites specifically I don't need to drive Biden driving by it purposely to. Got to remind me. Bob what's important in life and and how what important is. On the conversations were having right now I watch these these kids in these parents last night on CNN that town hall meeting I watched the parents and kids yesterday. At the white house with the president I know some of these kids have spoken to some of these kids I know some of these parents have spoken to some of these parents. I just wanna say sometimes I do wonder guys. If we should be following the kid who leads corporate they should be buckled being hours they're acting like the adults here it's been so impressive. I'm so proud of them and I'm so proud of power tab and our city it's a very small city guys have may have rallied around. On this group of kids out we have some things our show. Odd that we have in the work to try to help some of these families and help the community out and help them. Our hope would put a smile on their face coming up here in the next month their social worker not some of that stuff but. But it's been it's been really president just what is that it's talking to some of these kids and it went up talking to them more. What Baywatch and it is a scary time here where I feel super going to work in my kids fields going to their own school. It's it it's a crazy time here and you know sometimes what happens with the store's most on what happens with the stories. Is that we get to the next story and we tend to forget about the last story on the do everything I had to speak when these kids speak with a parent. And tried to block keep their voice a lot to keep it lab. A because what they want at the end of the deck is not about gardens however you feel about it. What these kids want is to be able go back to that school and they wanna feel culpable in state going back to that school and they don't want this to happen to another school. Ever not anywhere in America and I support that we should all be supporting that. And I do wonder today issue we're sure we'll be following their lead or today be following hours because they're hurts odds of this is one event. With the kids are out there like the adult in the adults. Conrad who like kids. Listen they've been really impressive no way they've handled this entire thing in the and we support used to got to we support what you're doing for the community and we support. Of those kids in that community as well so that was a very important topic and now I'm I'm happy sure it was thank you thanks Phil. I got I appreciate it thank you you've got to just so. Doctor horrible time you know it's just one of those times when I sit there watch TV about. You know the discussions going on about from both sides I just think to myself. Now just like everybody to look at it as human beings and not from any political Sykes I hate the politics eight talk of politics and don't we don't do it. On this show in this look at a situation from a human being standpoint and and not a political stamp new. The Orioles say is is echoing what students is said and listening to those kids and listening to the way they've had carried themselves through this entire thing has been. So incredibly impressive and the way. They've sort of dealt with this and how they're continuing to deal right going forward. Has been unbelievably inspiring this it and we wish everybody there and those kids. Well all the continued success and just a piece of mine when all this going forward. Ever or Michael care support for the Golan Quinn go podcast comes from our friends at rocket mortgage Michael and loans chances are your popular one comes to your work your hobbies your life rocket mortgage you do that same level of confidence when it comes to buying a home or refinancing your existing home wall. With rocket mortgage you can apply simply an understand fully you can mortgage confidently. To get started or who rocket mortgage dot com slash might. 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That's the way for you to get in touch with us right now we are getting in touch with none other than Jay Bill Lewis who joins us now on the shell Pennzoil performance line. Taking synthetic motor oil performance to a whole new level make the switch to Pennzoil it's not Pennzoil synthetics today I Jay thanks for being with us we've been talking a lot. On the last initial the last couple days about what to do when you have situations. Ought like what happened in global and how you punished the school. What their misgivings without punishing the kids. Forcibly that may have had nothing to do with them at all and we've sort of been running around in a circle. Our our big Mike are both feel the idea of what pretending that something didn't happen. That happened to sort of ridiculous. So have you sort of come up with zero await your own mind to figure out a way to. To punish those that did wrong without punishing the kids. Well I would look through other avenues of inquiry. To look at and college sports battle with the NCAA. That. Accused of wrongdoing in the prosecution in the Miami case. You know they'd inspire people both they they they targeted people at the wrong and they dealt with outweigh. They had the investigation. And they fired the people who did wrong. And I think it's a lot easier if you target those who think hit the wrong thing. And then fashion the punishment. So it hit those people and not others. Then I'll give you think I'll give you an example it used this analogy over the years Oprah makes some side. But if you got a big hospital. Committed malpractice. You're not today and activity shut the hospital out because other other people I meet dot hospital the patients were you not what you know like. Often time Celtic which scholarships. Will you would main hospital there right but you can't use these operating room and then you're down there. For the next year. You wouldn't do that because it it doesn't it doesn't hurt or punish or deter. The the people from wrongdoing that it wrong. That are least culpable or not topple ball at all. And it's not a good deterrent. I don't believe that anyone who would engage in activity like this I never heard it like this this will all in close so it's our. But I don't think Andre beat eat or do you players were they thinking in the least but hey look we may we may lose Dan. Over that. Or or I don't think in the country matter anyone spot. Is we better watch that this might be open and people went to jail local prospects in the this was it loophole that that was criminal activity that was doorknob. So I don't I don't think it would hurt in any way. People in the future what do women think we've been doing this for a long time this way. And it hasn't really done any good. In my thing would be let's deal with the people with good long and and will do it that targeted fashion in a way that has a chance to be a deterrent. And one last thing on the heat beat the educational records and Ed taking banners down NCAA really like sit because that hurts. It hurts people. The question is is that hurting the right people and I don't think it is. Now I would agree with that him my side and when they played in that title game. He did say if they won that championship but they beat Alabama that year and they did pull battered out it would. It would you know upset him some effect of the legacy that you try and leave at a school when you go back. That has to be kind of vacated and and nobody really acknowledges anymore even though. You know you want it so I'm with ya know is it is it hurting. The right people and a broader scale what this FBI investigation as Colorado we keep hearing. Man there's going to be a few handfuls of of prominent programs that get swept up in this. When that all happens and it's going to be unbelievable talk on our our our airwaves and everywhere else. Do you think you'll have an effect on the product itself a people who tune in to watch college basketball. I don't know about Mike that's a really good question. Then. All the not to rip remember what went on. With point shaving scandals obviously knows or fifties but there was a point shaving scandal Boston College when I was just getting high school actually watched that he'd play when they came out a lot central place that it yelling at you're an epic that was one of the -- people suspect. That suspect might imply. But I. Create how many people would would be bothered by at the or they would watch. I know even with the cloud hanging over the seat in the house look like the sea of you know rating tour are opt actually and people are watching and consuming the product. So it hasn't and how to hit that point. Maybe if that does that is there is some people speculated could be maybe I would have an effect I I doubt it I think it would be in the short run about. No we can't scandals in NCAA sports before in football and basketball. We've got to before because of the system and we're gonna continue that album. I don't think that with Iranian you know my sense of the tunnel that put billions of dollars floating system. All of the sudden it's just gonna be like the Little League World Series I have to be up guys on here. I think we're always going to be dealing with these issues because we have a flawed I think it's the system is corrupt and that premise. But it is very very flawed it's still great. They're so many great things about it but but I I don't think I don't think we're we're looking at an existential probable college basketball or early college football all say that what I'm not try to cap the spurt here by. You know it got me maybe you just feel put upon what it when it's pure sport that the mood in the rosters here by. Know when we talk about college basketball being corrupt and there certainly are corrupt aspects of got it it kind of makes me snicker a little bit bad that people may think that. Football you know what also girls are on court no you know we've got scared that they're there are plenty of scandal. In that in that sport to get guys to step back into it yet. Yeah that's yeah is that the Girl Scout Cookies are selling our illegal ones Soliai I know what to say his fifth. I yet there's just no way around out there and I do I I do have to say. Newborn in the sixties so it's quite pretty clear all wars delegates it's only does that our our rear view mirror. But I do have a my my kindergarten class didn't go into we shut the door adult or it shouldn't apple sauce and you don't generalize but it may be years I know you're a more comprehensive education about it. That is true and I appreciate you acknowledging that Amir who thought but it but it does speak to the bigger issue and all this right is that is that there's there's a problem. In the way it's all set up and I don't know if there's if that's ever gonna be fixed number two arguments so much money involved. Yeah it cannot I don't mean to say hey there at the breaking your world okay it's not a no I'm always saying that. Right but but it but it's sort of the idea that that you know right now the agents are being blamed and this is Ben we know about agent involvement in about all along while they're everybody everybody about all those agents are ball. You may not know exactly what they're doing it but there's no rule that players college players can't have agreements or side with agents now are I think all three of us have agents. I certainly had 170. All I know Mike. I cracked fifteen million beat seven but by that we are we all have agents and we pay our agent Ari just okay that's correct. And so so when you double rule that you can't deal with a certain segment of the business that means that the ethical ones are gonna follow the rules and they're gonna sit on the side lots. So all we unethical agents have open field running on players. And and I think it would be better if the players were allowed to have age they could sign agreement that the agreement would be enforceable in court. If anybody if anybody tried. Horn in on an agreement or or you know you have you have contract remedies. It's pretty orderly in the rest of the free world when you when you start putting rules and then you've got a multi billion dollar business in the sand. Initially another no no we we got this all that this virtual. This virtual business here in the athletes are virtual and let's say a weight problem and all that's not happening. And we need to circle wake up to the reality outlet in May the FBI is quick I don't know weekend. I think a large indoor about a million years about it attached to slip let there are able to me in ways that a lot of what I learned a lot early. RJ one I at its next time we talked to let's get on the court. Coming out of the war we get ready for conference play and I'm not the best thing there is an all sports the NCAA tournament so reportedly talked a basketball. Yet now that the Olympics are over we can turn our attention to go out. Series sill OK I made the comment about the super ball I still gonna job Bobby right. No today I got. I don't know I don't want to bring about a camera to have after doing that ever but it did bills with a fixed it really shouldn't I was ready railed this hard and I said when he came on after the two boys in OK now the Super Bowl over and we can contrary is like well. Thank you personal you guys are so one minded you can actually watch if you think he got me he got me good which was and is in shock. A by the way it's turning into a really bad point four hours for Canada. The US women took down the Canadian women's hockey team for the gold medal and the Americans just took down the Canadian men in the curly semi finals. There are way they've good a bad yes good morning hey guess at how that bad feeling right about now in the donut day to remember when Mike's on his work here and in Yahoo!'s show. Michael Grant Nat. Even though what what. Well mr. Bradley I listened to be Norton's all right we'll get them we'll get the door nuts Jeff coming up the reason why one QB being that's that's being bandied about says stands it isn't going anywhere from let's he's he's he's yelling at me burning all yeah just used to grandfather term view is it about got us our residents need therapy. Regardless that you gain from Virginia are out of the military bugler and airports are engineered the difference here furor trumpet other than those are the bell trumpet had valves than they're worth your goal has no doubts that shows that you've been teaching children or your list. And then left again. All right jayhawks about that. That stands at all are doing or remind you that the NBA's on ESPN radio tune in tonight is LeBron and the cavs host the wizards. Coverage begins at 7:30 eastern on most ESPN radio stations they're real nice description Oprah they James calling him again you can call him and and give us your opinions but I dealt will be as good as James and I was at Jacobs from us 86050655. On five I would think it again if we did a jumpstart its excel files as scifi survival five. If we're look at a trumpet and it Dougal. You know we probably could figure that out yeah one as valves the other doesn't so you're kind of soul I mean but I like it could take our eye I agree. I agree to Europe to change an hour with the Google with your with your lips out with a valve self. This again going back to. Adam Vinatieri is great great grandfather yes often there was the grandmaster for a general consulate general Custer. And marched with general Custer but not. When there was not a black man yes so all he survived that. If he did because the whole story coming full circle is that a military is signing with the colts. He's 45 years old 58 points away from being the all time scorer scoring leader in the NFL. And if his great great grandfather marched. In that battle. We were not have Adam Vinatieri. We wouldn't and by the way we've we've we take ms. Buell vs trumpeting to a whole new level OK I think this one. The purple one that's the bats the trumpet all we're gonna play a ball we yeah Hitler's OK let's put which was this one. We've got I think that's a bugle and that is the bugle I know where where's Leo instead it wears on there. 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He's made two birdies Diaz and more importantly he's hitting fairways I was gonna say it hasn't been the issue it's been worse his drive gone and then how tough was this a they had them on the second hole this sucker just hurdle then you move a pizza stand a lemonade ice and all turn out there with I'm sorry approximate pretzel there was a pretzel stand they had to physically move it in Gaza where his ball as saved par and that whole body is two under Riley by the way are my best researchers giving men information on just stuffed up. He had to drive a three wood right in the middle put two than three feet made the birdie and he's hit another fairway Dario Getty is very excited all getting excited including Johnson trumpeter Tiger Woods files are gonna grow it is we yet we have another we have another this is actually trumpet. With next to the bugle area. And about a month ago he's still my hard. Understood well let's do that again. It's all yes it makes that instrument sound a lot better than the numeral played have you ruled out. Yeah yeah this. That's just one I know right now that is. Let's that was that gave me chills more than the tiger drive pulled a little more time. NFL films the autumn wind is a rate start to scare you knew that it no it's the best I when I was a kid and only a thirty seconds. I actually bought but the soundtrack to NFL films it's fantastic I don't. And I thought I died and and and and it was awesome. I've been around Doug Diana I'm glad we're excited about that the tiger right now because tyra need to restrain you is excited rivalry no doubt there are coming together which is making for a very good Thursday morning coming up blood to bring us down to mess about what we doing and not a lot. That'll bring us down after all this excitement I'm getting Jimmy I think.