Aug 10, 2018|
Golic Jr. and Trey talk about the PGA Championship and the NFL being back with the help of Aaron Goldhammer, ESPN NFL Insider Field Yates and more.
Mike Golic Jr. and Jason Fitz in for the guys. They talk about Sam Darnold starting for the Jets with Darren Woodson before playing over/under and more.
Mike Golic Jr. and Jason Fitz in for the guys. They continue their conversation about Sam Darnold and then talk with ESPN MLB Analyst Jessica Mendoza and more.
Mike Golic Jr. and Jason Fitz in for the guys. They talk with former Jets QB Chad Pennington about Sam Darnold before talking with Brandt Snedeker about his 59 round.
The guys talk with ESPN NFL Analyst Darren Woodson about the new rules in the NFL, what's he made of the preseason thus far and more.
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But it's not the straight talk brought to buy straight talk wireless best phones best networks no contracts and a lot of people talking about the first round of the final major of the year the PGA championship. Being held the bill read country club outside Saint Louis first time it's been there since 1992 when Nick Price on the first of his. Three major championships there. And it was an unbelievably horrible start for tiger I he would make a fifteen footer for bogey. On the tenth hole and then he drove it with a driving iron into the rough on the eleventh hole his second hole and his approach shot out of the rough. Don't put it in the water went on to make a double bogey so three over after the first three jewels and to think in. This may be a short weekend stay for Tiger Woods he may be packing his bags up after Friday. And then lo and behold it's the driver and a timeout basically. But the driver in the bag that your Jordan not good for me right now or your home exactly you stay in the bag young fellow until you come right at dawn with respect. On a bunch of fairways with that three wood and then finish three under over his last sixteen holes. Getting him back into the championship at level par and after the round tiger talked about what a wild rider wants. Just hung in. No ovals founders grind away at a pick away at it and somehow trying gets it may get a one over par at the turn. You know being what two or whoever wasn't just trying to chip went in on par fives couple short par fours and a front nine and just keep hanging in there asking the ball. All right I don't really putt well and if I can somehow get myself in the right section second hole few thoughts and positive look you know ground out a score today. By the way the over under him sing grinding in the press comes and it was a half and he went way over react we got tiger saying grinding I don't give a shout out every time something funny like this happens ESPN stats and information department send out their packet they're talking about Tiger Woods and his back nine. Said he showed a lot of hash tag great they actually hash tag isn't just stats and info packet I kid you not so they even have an appreciation for Tiger Woods these self proclaimed grinder. Yet it looked people like what's the big deal he shot seventy gimme a break you finished where he started. As a whole works you don't understand the hardest thing. For any athlete to do in any game is when it's going bad turn it around me that's why to me. I'll never question the greatness of Russell Wilson and I'll never press question to raise normally should. Tom Brady let's go back to the the NFC champ strip game a few years back between the Seahawks and the Packers. Russell Wilson's stock in that game for three and a half quarters mean he was terrible in that game for three and a half quarters. And then lo and behold they made one or two plays. And they had a chance to win and it's like a light bulb went off. And if I get it was thanks to a messed up onside kick that really simple thing in motion but they got there because he was able to make some plays and once they had that chance. He turned around same thing happened with Tom Brady in super bowl of 51. They're down to 48 to twelve. I mean they're a great three at one yeah against the falcons but in the fourth quarter. They did down twenty to twelve it's a third one and the falcons decide to take a nine step drop on third one with a sixteen point lead with seven have to play well I'll never understand. So Donte' high targets a strip sack fumble recovery and suddenly Brady who was a terrible that game. Boom lights out just destroys Atlanta through that and the regular regulation and then goes into overtime and and gets the ball and wins. For guys who are struggling. And then in mid game and turnaround to bring it back to me that's the most impressive thing of any athlete. We always think of this and one of my favorite cliches about luck and people always say luck is when preparation meets opportunity and most people look at that forgot it's a back up who's trying to break gaining crack the starting lineup. Find his way out of the field in general but in the case of like you mentioned Tom Brady Tiger Woods Russell Wilson if you get these guys that preparation meets opportunity for moments like that if you give them even a sliver correct that's for these guys are gonna take it tiger yesterday six fairways seven greens in the back nine scramble much federal front nine which was his second drives. Of the course and so it is it's finding whatever that little bit it is and people called momentum whatever they want but it's just a moment that settles you because that next play mentality is a really hard thing to cultivate regardless of what sport you're playing and these guys the guys that are truly great are the ones that could do that would the most heat is on correct. And lots of tigers a six strokes back to Gary will by the way got given a little kudos to. RO. Our friend Billy Croats are to work with us and in the open championship in the US open for years I was watching the webcasts on the PGA dot com website yesterday he said you know I just this course is set up soft with the rain I think there's a 64 out there today. On boulder woodland shoots a 64. Again woodland is one of the most annoying people on the planet not because he's a bad dude he's actually a great guy very even keel. Steady as she goes. Good dude that. He's one of those guys that golf was like well whatever all try this or that he really went to walked for a university on a basketball scholarship demented maybe a play golf. And we got four wins on tour now is leading the PGA championship after the first round. No one likes that guy and it's a little too good and every day yeah ulcer is the second say this is he's not here that's my dad like my dad's a little too good in almost every game you can do and so growing up it's incredibly frustrating right because your significant you're gaining ground in the majors move the field. And all the sudden it changes a little bit yeah and I'm going into the weekend we got a few other guys Dustin Johnson's at three under Jason days at three under Ricky dollars at five under re given an eye on going into the weekend look. I really wanna see what happens with a Retief or I this is his third round in the sixties. In in a major so far this year. Com and he's he's as good as Ricky is and he's won you won up players championship he's won four events. But Rickie Fowler has the talent. To be one of the top three golfers in the world there's no question about that. The only thing that's held them back he hasn't won enough meat for all his abilities and they are numerous there's no there's no part of his game that isn't great. He's never been able to put together and won a major off and he just doesn't win enough on tour I'd Tony fourteen for example he had the lowest score. Of all four majors there wasn't close by any but they didn't win any of our grade B that was the Rory McIlroy won twice including the open championship oil lake. And also the PGA championship. Outside of at Valhalla outside a local. I really would like to see Rickie Fowler say this is my moment this is my time. As you've seen what Jordan speed has been able to do he struggled yesterday as well. You've seen what Justin Thomas is done now. Mean used to be Justin Thomas always edit store and speed sprint woman he's he's won eight times over the last two years nobody is one more. We we see would Dustin Johnson has done he's won boat loads of time he has that major now a couple years ago at the US open. But it is time I think for Rickie Fowler to step up and join his place in the elites again it was just a first round. He looked in complete control of his game and if Ricky can join the fray when you have Jordan. Just in a Dustin and Ricky what we're talking about a a cavalcade of really really good golfers on the US side. That will bode well for the game for a long time in the I think Ricky interest. It lets it looks like a Paxton lynch sometimes yes sometimes he looks like you know big boat captain Morgan got. You don't have a little cat and honestly looks a little bit like Jack Sparrow sometimes when he has a mustache. Rick he's an interesting guy. There's a there's a little edge to him and I think as much as you know we love toward speed being the all American dude in just an is that fiery little guy. Ricky is an interesting dude and you get him because he's got little edge to is a little wit. You get him to win more and suddenly. I think golf it's a lot more interest and for a lot more people if Jordan speakers Mike Trout I think Rick Aaron I think Ricky might be his Bryce Harper yes a little bit over. All the stuff that we've been talking about for years. And of validated here this week and so I'm really gonna keep my eye. On Ricky going for it's gonna be great week I can't wait to see it. And we were just looking at the local weather forecast. Here in the greater Hartford area the local limits that I don't like Saturday. So I guess I don't what I'm doing and zarrella watching golf all day Saturday or reroute the schedule a tray it's going to be held a weekend as well I don't like Saturday was. Doesn't like you either man okay. So we'll see what happens and that was straight talk brought you by straight talk wireless nationwide coverage on America's largest and most dependable four GL TE networks. Speaking of straight talk we might have had the strait has talked ever before one of the priest Jason Toews last night at least go to one side. Always good windows and. Great way Bjorn and Michael senior. But it is a parade day in Philly we sent our board not to live. Are you now how are you doing yeah. I I don't know how to boy got our work. Padraig you now my body want to go out here but the golf course so I kid you not he broke his own fingers get out the god god does know and everybody. But we're down here right now actually happened in June. Sources around before the show trail I'm looking and I got a notebook full notes I was sitting watching all the games last night's kind of jot down insisting stuff. Alley our producers going yeah you know during the the fall I like to sit there and take notes on a notepad in my phone so we know coming in Monday some of the stuff to keep an ion. And cliff who you just heard there would resent to the parade. The code master cliff chimes and goes you know the only thing I wrote down last night is. Eagles are Super Bowl champions know I'm curious if the eagle fans are going to be able to get past this any time soon I mean look. And I think the Eagles will as a team I'm a little concerned that Eagles fans will be like this season whatever dude we beat the patriots last year. Were do it and that's support senator brought you by straight talk wireless and reportedly contract they hold our right was very talk wireless never have to because there is no contract. These same exact forgy LTE towers is the big carriers to for a lot last. Straight talk wireless only a Wal-Mart preferred term the conditions of service at street talk dot com. Our goal can we go here would view a present about progress ventures off longest join us on the show pencil performance line. But we always say the last thing that matters in a pre season games the final score but there are always things you can look at on the field that will tell you good or bad things about your team. Perhaps the most interesting and most telling moment of any pre season in last a junior. Summit that happened before the game. Now we all know what happened in the last couple of weeks and Kelvin Benjamin an article that apparently what was written a long time ago. Basically came out and said they look. Because you know he. Filly and have opportunity to make all the places that wasn't get the ball in places where I could catch and run when it. Which was an interesting thing to say because the first pre season game at the Buffalo Bills hosting Cam Newton and the Carolina Panthers and caveat here. He should the senate I don't think but I don't tell was completely wrong. The last three years Camden especially on third down was last on completion percentage on third down among all local like quarterbacks or was 41 out of forty want so that's certainly something. That he needs guys to address and clean up. I'm not sure who made all the sense for him to say at their big game on the week before they played. Carolina Panthers and there was an interesting moment on the field and both for the game where. They're all walking out there Kelvin Benjamin southern redshirt and Thomas Davis the linebacker for the Panthers is sort of talking to about something. And then Cam Newton comes stroller up with a hands behind his back wanted to have a conversation. And it sure looked like Kelvin management wanted no part of that conversation junior. Matt Kelvin Benjamin was out of your first team all those wide Cam Newton comes up with the pants all the way hides all the way up. Getting ready over any kind of does he stand Thomas Davis away because he tried to go over there it looks like very gadget comes over there. Goes over looks to give you know I'd tell the men's middle high five maybe. Kind of talk things out. And cal mental waves him off not gonna shake his hand I can do anything wants to keep movement and that's what can you kind of see him racially flip the switch this is amazing to watch Trey because this was the confrontation camp trying to go over here and see what was really up and tell them Benjamin was not having any bit of it. He wanted no part of that conversation whatsoever and after the game as you might imagine. Of people were asking Kelvin Benjamin hey what was that was viewing Campbell for the game. Right on the opposite move move over luggage. We investors moved. Moving on from Brooklyn by the time you got to move irrelevant. And didn't. What was he trying to seat you. You know we don't miss it. Again if you don't miss that double measures trying to move on from his general Clark from before the field. Before the game on the field serve was trying to move walked on from a from that interview he wanted no part of any discussions about that whatsoever. No parts and honestly we talk about yet there might be some kernel of truth to what he said. Here's the curl that exist on the other side Kelvin Benjamin 01 of these to be shown up to training camp out of shape and the threat in the past yes album Benjamin was completely off the field during the panthers' best season as a franchise that we saw her eyes in recent memory with Cam Newton. And during cams MVP season so there's not a whole lot of leg to stand on now when I got until last night Kelvin Benjamin prayers for accuracy or answered by Nate. Peter yeah exactly which can if you want it to cal bench when you watch how all that as your long term solution for the finger you're so missing at the start your career. Good luck. Now I'd listen Kelvin. But let my favorite part of this entire exchange I can't prove that it that's the way it worked out but it sure looked like it. It looked like there was an effort by Thomas Davis to start talking rule to Kelvin Benjamin with his back turned so he wouldn't seat. Kim right that's what it looked to me right are you figure you'll break a sweat out a couple of times you go talk to home so we can't run away from me when I guess there's let's be honest when you see Kelvin Benjamin is a 65 wide receiver stand next to camp. It's amazing that you realize came as a quarterback does he look like a chiseled Adonis next to Calvin Benjamin he's just. That you can't I don't know we played Carolina pre season for my rookie year when he walked out on the field I realize you all were probably not playing the same game yup and it is very clear that even next tourists he criticized tell amendment that's still holds true that Ryan Clark he sell you knew it was time to retire when he saw Rob Gronkowski on the field has done. I think what's great sports night last night no doubt about it and doing so what are they wanna show what does. Or did Domino's delivery to over a 150000. Unexpected outdoor locations way. Introducing dominoes hotspots you can finally get pizza delivered right to the beach. The plot for the dog park not a no not a problem fight and ominous odds but near you and get to medium to topping pizzas delivered for 599 each to let them and it and it will be a test is limited time offer price for discussion libertarians are listening very respected by Amazon com and he doesn't. 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After pretty decent showing in the first pre season game and the minister. Feel gates is an NFL insider will join is not a clock and studio and for those wondering why you called them the minister whose full name is field minister Yates. An incredible middle name for a guy whose name already sounds like the human embodiment of the Burberry catalog minister is there really aren't red Herring in the middle by the way that is great that you would Berber I always go like el Deen the or you know of the they'll they'll complete preppy handbook but didn't the burglary is right there ball back right there debt because the amount of traveling to the airport Brooks Brothers in the harper Bradley airport that is field gates to a T he's the one that you see that's keeping that they opened for business. As the other thing that's really amazing about field is you find his topple gang ears everywhere there's MMA fighter that looks like field yeah it's it's unbelievable. Man got he's got tat sleeves on both farms we called evil feel gates and there was a guy. At the Croatian watch party. When they mated to vote when they made it to the finals. After beating England on the front row. Had he looked exactly like feel it's I mean it's amazing how many people out there who look like the minister is crazy to all of a lot to get to with that. A you can get in touch of us the one in a flowers dot com Twitter feed. I've golden wing goal or were asking you for your suggestions on what was your overreaction. To the first weekend of NFL pre season football or the first night specifically. Give us call 8605065505. We will play some of those well let's start this hour after Sonata from Darren rebel which was not expecting let's do it. What's tragic. That we give that dreaded. First round of the PGA championship Tiger Woods playing in the PGA Gemma to for the first time in three years. Shot an even par seventy and walked off the course type reporting that it's actually T 48 now after everybody finished. Boy did he struggle out of the gate junior started bogey double bogey but it really impressively brought it back after he said driver. Go away from me get behind me Satan. It behind me Satan could keep. Although what the job minor league baseball's I'd put the garbage cap they're Sid you're slash goad your home pretty nice and that was fourth straight tournament starting even par or better so. Understandably this tournament we knew going in whether heard you guys talking about the other day low score probably gonna win this tournament double digits under par probably gonna do insult tiger is gonna have to pick up the pays date especially with Zach Johnson and DJ and Rickie Fowler. Really up clogging near the lead. Of course up top basketball phenom Gary would. Yeah it's it's one of those guys that she just loved to hate because he's accurate he's a great dude don't get me wrong but a guide to Salazar basketball's gossip that didn't work. I don't know all I guess I'll try golf he's won four times on tour. And now finds himself on the sole lead in the first round of the PGA championship. Well when making his twentieth start in a major he's yet to finish in the top ten his best finish is a T twelve of the 2011 PGA which was won by Keegan Bradley. And a T twelve at 2016 open championship which of course was that great showdown at Truman between Hendrick stance and on Phil Mickelson at Stinson was able to go on win. Woodland I think he's off today. At 8 o'clock this morning and that's. If that's right on the double check that I think he tees off this morning. Very excited earlier early so you'll lose me at some point less than Morton golf's the best because all the sudden it gives us instant reaction my favorite radio shows runs Sundays here in the fall when they are you operation football field it's a beyond with him. And you sit there watch football react. We can turn that to that golf maybe we can do. Zest best way to do it so again yeah he tees off about 8 o'clock tiger will tee off of 148. This afternoon in his second round while we continue. And up first and this deal this is where. We're sort of in this new world everything we think. Is gonna go one way usually doesn't what do we all say when we go in the Supreme Court struck down the ban on Doug gambling in all states and you can states can do whatever they want. All this will be ready this'll be ready we're gonna make sure that this mobile gambling thing in game probably gonna be the last thing to go. Now first week of the pre season guess would you do with the meadowlands between. The browns and the giants you could mobile bet on your app on the phone at the stadium so this. Explain to Ben fox and espn.com. Fans out life rubble the wager on the sporting event from their seats based in new Jersey's recently launched mobile waiver. Marks the first time NFL fans amenable to do that draft kings handles the mobile batting in New Jersey. They told thought there were no restrictions on mobile batting a met life so in game wager on the browns giant game was available to the fourth quarter and I know we've talked about that being a lot of overseas gambling was the ability to do it in game and the amount of that advocate mobile we're talking about the NBA would partner with MGM this idea of in game gambling being another one of the major selling points for the league and their proprietary information so we don't really heard much from the NFL since their initial statement on where they're gonna stand to evolve as how they're going to incorporated but. I think at this point there foolish not to be exploring something you hope that's going on behind the scenes. Look it's coming so you can either took your head in the sand and pretend lie lie lie lie I'm not hearing you it's not happening or you can do with the NBA has done. They know what's gonna be out there they were aggressive about it they were trying to get that 1% integrity fee I'm not sure how that's gonna go but they partnered. With MGM and now they have an official partner that's in them what 25 to thirty million dollars over three years in that sounds like a drop in the bucket. What it's a start and that I think both the NBA and MGM gonna find out how much this relationship benefited each one of them and what do you baton a few years that thirty million dollar counter probably goes north. A hundred million dollars would be my guess and it's what you're learning along the way you get a chance to deal with all the mechanics of the situation in a way that right now we're talking about reacting to this. You hold that's not what the NFL's doing even if it's just behind closed doors right now you need to figure out a way to be a part of this because this is where this all goes we've seen in the way fan is seeing gambling already impacted. Viewership and the interest in the NFL don't fight it exactly and look the fact that they the NFL sort of been and we don't want any part of Israel a figure this out. That was their game that of the first in game mobile batting. Everyone lived to the sun still came up today. You know that the world is not upside down were all going to be fine what years it or are we needed the rivers are not on fire and the sky is not black OK everything worked out it's going to be fine. Everyone's going to be okay. Matt nineteen. I feel you. The Los Angeles chargers play in San Diego's mission valley according to one seen in the latest animal video game from you sports. Michael cook a local the San Diego and those on Tuesday at an announcer. In the Madden nineteen video game which is set for release this week. Made an error and suggesting the charges still plans San Diego he shared a bunch of people with that on Twitter and lo and behold we got a six XV announcer at a club says E. A. SPORTS coverage of the NFL takes just mission valley area of beautiful San Diego California. And boy oh boy do I feel a lot better about this that I called on the San Diego Chargers fell about 5011 times since they left San Diego. And Madden sorting it legitimizes this now they're gonna push out the update there to make this all better E. A. SPORTS quickly responded. To the San Diego union Tribune reaching out and called the reference a bug in the games commentary. And is gonna go ahead and fix this that the rough book used to remember during the roll out everyone's given way codes for the game and now San Diego's going to be in their feelings. Well it's interesting too because look I've done some work for Madden for years they're great company they're fun to work with but do what they do a lot of times is you you record stuff for them and then the saints every recording every year when we just. Use this again users get. I guarantee that's what that's what happens here they just it was an added not a bug meant more press and editing mistake. You know that we forgot that oh yeah we needed to update that we rolled over this again from previous year purge your not a huge deal but. Cindy was like really. You every it would play the game got to remind us of the salt in the wounds they already feel like second class citizens after being ditched Doby the second team to Los Angeles now we have to do this that's called one of us like starting off hard knocks at the removal of LeBron James poster in downtown we've by the way you're dead broad of a great point with that yesterday as a Watson that come down. Windows that were covered by that giant all apps think. Although I don't it was an office building was that like apartments to rent how do you rent it got a beautiful view of the inside of LeBron James is big poster of me. Is that a selling point. That's an. Is that like we'll take 500 bucks off mets' Jose I was wondering what day is the view worth also being able to say but hey we're the LeBron James building easy by the way if you're trying to guide you were over there like oh yeah I'm just outside I'm Mike guy you know hundred yards underneath to a -- I'd just make a left of the LeBron James thing and you're right there you'll find my apartment. So again. He's gonna fix that no question about it but against San Diego's like one more time. I golden lingo reminding of the baseball season rolls along tune in tomorrow is Anthony Rizzo and the cubs post Bryce Harper in the that's. It's presented by Barbara Saul razors coverage begins at 3:30 eastern on ESPN radio is generated dot com and the ESPN app. So as we continue to go through week one of the NFL's pre season the full first week. And good there's a little. One thing that's a little curious and little. This concerning and that's what's going on watering and Darius guys you hope he's getting an MRI today. You look great in that game then went down that run late and didn't return with that need you hope that's nothing serious that's what are always trying to avoid. In the pre season games a serious injury. But then there is the continued backdrop of what happens before the games there were a couple players. That decided to demonstrate during the National Anthem in Miami Kenny stills and two other dolphins. Protests during the game a defensive end Robert Quinn stood and raised his right fist there were a couple of people in Seattle and in Jacksonville that work on the field. Among them I believe it was Tobin Smith for the jaguars and wondered for a net. And Jane when Ramsey and TJ yelled and they were not on the field for the National Anthem and they they join the team after the name for a National Anthem had been played. Obviously this is an ongoing situation junior with what happened that the NFL owners' meetings when they came up with that new rule. That said look if you're on the sidelines you got to stand. If you don't want to do that that's fine stay in the locker room they called it a great compromise for that of course we realized that and compromise of anybody but themselves because they were talking to the players about this. They since changed factors with that they now having ongoing conversations with the players to try to resolve this so it's still an issue were trying to work away for. They are in the NFL releases data because Kenny stills are now Wilson were also dealing. For the Miami Dolphins game Robert Quinn raised a fist we saw Malcolm Jenkins of the Eagles raises this last night before the game and the NFL said there's been no change in the NFL's policy regarding the National Anthem be answerable continue to be played before the game all player and Ontario personnel. Are expected to be on the field during that time of the presentation of the flag in the performance of the anthem. Personnel who do not wish to sewed to do so to remain in a locker we remain committed to working with the players to identify solutions making progress in important social issues. But also said no one will be punished is there still figuring this out right now right. I think. This is the interesting part is I look at this trade is. I look at this you can I think it's ticket two sides I think both decide that was for the rule. Decide you wanted to change for this is saying this is what we are worried about real worried about players continuing to demonstrate we're worried about players continuing to detract from what were trying to do in put on a dame product that people don't buy into. But a lot of meal looks at this and says. Would this have been as strong as pointed had nothing been mentioned had there been no rule had their big no comments from ownership trying to deter this kind of behavior would players not a felt compelled and maybe you know what maybe that's to me is not fair to the cause because Kenny stills you listened to the way here other guys talk about this. They talk about this with a lot of sincerity this is a cause that means a lot to these guys and one that they're not content to just let slip away lets slip and anonymity if they stop bringing attention to it this way belliard Zach. Clear right Doug Baldwin wore a shirt. Basically is a former protest when he was on the field saying that the of the large majority of of people in prison or people of color. A Malcolm Jenkins as one of them one of the biggest outspoken advocates. Of the reasons why the protests are doing what they're doing and why they continue to do what they do when he spoke about it after the game. I know they're trying to people who look to us as motivation of the tools and inspiration. And I can see that you know and they have people who were part of removed. Fabricated. All for them gives you know those people who do this were they today you noticed that Kobe Bryant confiding in those insistence of the person. We believe they draw. Motivation and then it's risen from seeing. Us on this stage. So that was him explaining why he does what he does it look here's the deal. No matter what the NFL did at that owners' meeting. They were going to be proven wrong one way or the other there there was really no wind the people say well just don't do anything but they announced they're not gonna do anything the people who were upset about the protest would say or doing something so there's really no. Wait around this now but I think the most important thing is that last sentence for Brian McCarthy on that statement. We remain committed to working with the players to identify solutions. And continue making progress on important social issues affecting our communities. And I think that's been the body bugaboo in the sticking point all along junior I don't think the players felt like the NFL really wanted to work with them. One of the reasons that this has never been an issue in the NBA and they had this rule this went back into the ninety's that the NBA made the rule standing for the anthem went. A Chris Jackson when he played LSU and then Mahmoud Abdul roof. After he converted to a Muslim faith. Would sit and pray during the National Anthem and they made the rule hate. You have to stand and that's the way it's going to be and they made that rule and everybody abides by it. Because they believe that the NBA was a true partner with them and they believe that the front office. Of the NBA and the commissioner and that and the people that ray in the league. Had sincere inched ahead they're sincere interest in mind and working with them together. And I think that's been the biggest problem for the NFL and the NFL players is that it never feels like a full. Partnership and if they can work together to being more partners and employers and employees. I think this thing will find a successful resolution forever. And a lot of that a lot of people will say well it is an employer employee dynamic and that's the reality of the situation. But many didn't feel like that in December when the players and the owners were finally sitting down in the same room that's built bigger than it's been just this that felt like it was mending some things that have been going on for a long time between those two sides when they finally sat down and it seemed like Roger Goodell was really imploring the owners to hear the players out to listen to what they were talking about. It's so much of that felt like it got on Don. The one thing that I don't think will be a concern though is beat people always talk about this being a distraction to the team. Because I think the places where guys are doing this and you heard this echo Tobin Smith was talking about the guys in Jacksonville just didn't come out of the locker room they kind of abided by that rule but did not know that is not currently being enforced. But the NFL wanted to put in place and he said. You ideas a man I've got certain believes this is not gonna be a distraction in Jacksonville he went on to say I love my team I'm dedicated to my teammates and that's what we're talking about I did what I did it was love I hope people see it respect it respect the views. I love the military warm I salute service needs right it's a love that word at its law and we're just trying to move for move forward the pre season this is stuff that at this point has been in the conversational locker guys understand each other's views and so it's not going to be a distraction for the team and that way. These guys are so invested in each other that I don't ever I think we can stuff that as a worry in this situation that somehow gonna manifest on the field as if the Eagles winning the Super Bowl wasn't proof enough for. Correct it and look the one thing that I care about more than anything else with this is at the NFL in the NFL. Players continue to come together. To find some sort of solution that's good for everybody because. I I have my own personal feelings I understand. Why they do what they do meet personally. I would not sit orders are Neil during the and I just wouldn't do it that does mean I can't tell someone else they can't do it you know what I I want to respect and understand. What what they're going to focus their lives in the wage they see things is completely different from the way I see my life and I'm not going to suggest that that is that's. Less or in fear in any way shape or form we all come at this from different perspectives but my biggest hope in this going Ford and this is why I think that statement from Brian McCarthy was so significant. Work with the players so they feel like. The NFL has our back on this in the NFL players and say we had the NFL's back on this that's the win for everybody we can get to that point we're in a really good spot. Last part you said is key to win guys feel supported their much more likely look and say you know what I understand that this is our business this is our livelihood for everybody that we've all got a bottom line to meet here and I feel like you've got my back in the places that are near and dear to me. I'm gonna make sure that we all feel like we're supporting taking care in this process that's it Tobin Smith was talking about when his team and that can extend to the owners if this is all going about the right way that's exactly right by the way golden legal presented by progress of home insurance. Get your quote at progressive.com. Today. And we. It was all sort of one big Jaya jello mold variances in we're about why. A fifty WK in art ESPN Cleveland's. Aaron gold hammer joins us on the shell Pennzoil performance line. Erin great night for break now forget it winds up moving again when is that happening. Akamai. You've got that they couldn't put it OK okay I it's great. Pull over on the side of the road right now gravel or does it happen right away. Hope so Amanda's odd sort of think you walk in the back like people are getting nervous ever want to talk. Around now at all now you guys. Got to know me better than that they're go think you're heard from our lawyers or that status and that we can not do this live on a year that it violates. As EEE. I don't wrote yet he's full figured out a lot of our block arteries show I don't think it's good kids. And so we got this sort of find another debut. I'm and I are on a lot of ability in go we have been producers are not entity is that I buy the next time I thought you guys. I wanted to do you are right I am sick of being out. I don't like talking about it. And I baker coming out and played well they want a bit and move on the rest of our shows rats. If I see you eat poop on hard knocks I will die a happy man parents or adult let me down I trust my faith is renewed in you really looking forward ides is I'm glad they're good. I was gonna take you just imagine live Schreiber who narrates our now. Yes I'm Cleveland radio host earned gold hammered powering the menorah or whores two days trading can't. Just straight away from one topic. Well listen you're sick of talking about it just to be sick when you're done with that more than an as I I cameras with us. I don't cook closure I. All right to fourteen amount to much. Get it over and move on okay so how right now let's be honest. How excited are people clay oval over what they saw from Dick army field. Well first of all the first ballot cities you know people in Cleveland are getting it looked I'd appreciate it brown went 40 in the pre season last year. And we are now building a preceded dynasty. And they're on the other. Hand a world where he got broadcasting from an Atlanta. Three is gonna be there. All. I I I can't I can't deny that it felt like one of ground highlights. Since 2014. I mean and I know that creek it's day by. You know what it. The that they want a freak like that who cares who wins and loses but I think we're are about the C and knows something good when we. And I took acre you know our elected mr. crashed and that game last night. And to a beautiful touchdown to David and Joseph Ku held onto the ball. Obviously into the good it defense looked improved. It was just really what Schilling for Cleveland fans to see Oprah special product on the field last night and it still encourage. That was not being able ground that was something different that being built right now in Korea and and it really really exciting and fun this week. And Aron goal hammer. Host on 850 WK and are in Cleveland on the shell Pennzoil performance like an error and accused of because we finally saw the on field product last night put. As the nation and Cleveland has been getting to know this team too hard knocks what's the reception been like there because there's a lot of personalities in this team that I think you can really buy into it. Yeah I mean you know I think dark out it's been a huge positive for the overall glance at the niche. TV ratings for. The other night were Beijing and you know people are really engaged in the show everybody is talking about. Around town and interpret Landry is a guy who really the answer gravitated towards. You know yeast is many receptions for any player in NFL history in the course it's your. Well we know what kind of leader he was going to be and I think that they gave during the episode on Tuesday night. Only galvanize. And a little bit. I'm Earl galvanize and they've kind and that sort of pig and you grounds which is super excited. I don't think it's been smooth sailing to the ground to this can. No doubt about it Josh court. On the field. He probably is still their best playmaker and they need to figure out what his situation looks like. I'm Antonio Calloway really great too late last night but who knows what his elbow is gonna be looking like it they go to he's been he had an issue that was started. Was pulled over with Milan and the karma on part in the car. Last week yeah court date coming up with a couple weeks so there you are still have a head coach who has won one game in two years. And it's exciting to decreased cheating game is gonna be yet to victory certainly is still out when it comes to that issue Jackson. Our I. Our outstanding is realistic but optimistic about what is he's old. Well to your point as there and gold member from used in Cleveland joins us John Dorsey and in the Cleveland and Cleveland dot com says he doesn't believe Antonio cal always smoked marijuana but these situations. Can't be tolerated if anybody followed Antonio cal always career Florida. There was a litany of check marks of things say yet you diction and then that you should know than that you shouldn't a done that we'll see what happens going forward however I'm glad you brought up. Tyrod Taylor because everybody can go in on a baker mayfield and all this kind of stuff and Denzel ward Gotti Gotti got up. If you didn't walk away from that game Aaron. And understand. That Tyrod Taylor is clearly established. As the starting quarterback going forward for this season you don't understand what your watching because Tyrod was. Perfect last night. He played great. Our magic get a perfect quarterback rating 158 point three and get better that our army -- them out. The professional quarterback Garrett and I don't mean to disparage. The guys that were here last year but the the quarterback room for the brown lecture and apps mind it was the worst quarterback on the NFL ever seen and it. Totally undermined anything positive that the team was trying to do. I don't anybody trade under the delusion that are right here to the ground quarterback of the future that would Pique who upset. Everybody knows that baker mayfield is the future but having a guy like Tyrod Taylor who can lay now. It just. And it's indeed you'd have to put baker on the killed immediately and explode and get things you don't wanna expose him to. I think ground to guard from like it out the probably like he might. Any less so it looked good other piece around minus quarterback. You've got a fine. With the potential upside. Maybe like I had a great year and then well at least we might look like a typical Asian. In Cleveland when you have any quarterback. Different in the last twenty years would you had oh quarter. Call. I'm Aaron gold Cameron a shell Pennzoil performance like air and I'm interested because part of what we saw develop last night in addition to Tyrod in addition to baker. Was what was going on Twitter last night Dez Bryant who we heard was ducking John Dorsey is phone calls for a little while all the sudden says he'll be visiting the browns next week what's the temperature like around Dez Bryant as a potential addition to this wide receiver room. Well I think that's mandatory we we get a pull our show the other day yet in Cleveland on Twitter and it was about split. 5050. You want Dez Bryant or not. I'm that was before a lot of it currently news came down so I think. You know with his future maybe a little bit lower year having an incident even before the first preceding game. Maybe X sixty or eat ground and interest didn't get our team really wants to have it in for a visit that GM John Dorsey. Last night at the ground the try to contact yet and that hasn't responded return then Yugoslav cost I don't know of course you don't have spoken yet now. Interest in the ground is interest and meet because you can go to certain that you came on one of football game. Years and the debt it would rather go anywhere. Als in the NFL. With Cleveland he would rather play that Eric can eat you guys are talking about last segment. That have to deal with coming default policy Iberia and come into play to the ground. But because of heart now because after initially and because the ball around pick me killed. They beat the college that the perception that a ground is earning a little bit. And our that they are becoming leaked like a destination that Clinton would like to comment Ali around eight yeah. You can Cleveland up after a lot laughed at all. You will be put surely become indicate sort of dead on Twitter grapple with whether Barack really want to contemplate. It. Or I'll I'll say this as Aaron gold cameras with a spirit it's there's no doubt in my mind the Cleveland is a real football situation it's and it's not what it was. I think they've got the right people in place a John Dorsey has been proven winner in the NFL. They got to win games there's no question about it but I think the foundation is different not. Them not to be a laughing stock of football anymore hopefully they'll play out the long suffering Cleveland fans this season they're we appreciate the update thanks brother. You gotta thank you. Anyway yeah. It's not expect too much there's only one person out there that is effective ways to watch part of this guy surely we know that is ridiculous father. I just save hundreds of dollars space Tina and I tell I as happy as on the post and Michael can guarantee you'll be quote as happy as a clam on the Michael legal team cannot accurately verify claims even experience a complex human emotional state known as happiness as an inverted Somalis living submerged on the ocean floor with no arms legs or wireless access what's there to be happy about slime ball like all I'm so happy I didn't get turned into New England clam child today pronounced regionally just outlaw all Bob Hope not sold on the saying what we're talking about again. Geico fifteen minutes could save you 15% or more. Field Yates FL insider joins us in studio giving us the straight talk brought to buy straight talk wireless has phones to us that contracts of course. Imagine this podcast of fantasy full focus football podcast is new episodes Daley also live on Twitter at 11 AM eastern you can always listen on the ESPN app or via podcasts OK we've been doing deep dive into the twelfth pre season games so let me ask you point blank the most interesting impressive. Our eye popping thing you saw from week one full Immersion NFL pre season games was. Me and so request without any Andrew Luck was back on the field I get it is too dry eyes and six for 964. Total passing yards for Andrew Luck. Two field goal drives for the offense and those two. Occasions. Nothing spectacular. In a note or nothing disastrous but the fact that it wasn't disasters is good. 585 days went between me and deluxe last appearance and FL field and last night. He is a player that if this team has Andrew Luck at full strength. Despite a much improved AFC south over the past two years. Could push for somewhere between I think six and eight wins if you Angela is at full strength they have. Huge roster holes and GM Chris our would probably tell you a moment of in if if he'd keep him there yeah similar of candor that works. The move there it is off. Very few of them were about winning right now league basically issued free agency being made. Smart move in the draft to compile X rite they train number three for number six with three extra second round picks the united some great players including of course when Nelson. The guard is going to be big factor for them right away. Well basically say. I don't know that even if we put in a band aids on flesh wounds this offseason we can make it to the playoffs if you'd spent big in free agency because they have one of the spent. But Andrew Luck is the pivot point for that franchise to see you back on the field and to see him functioning within an NFL offense and stay healthy to me was. By far the most important thing last night and he's one of really I think four quarterbacks who were looking forward to seeing coming back from injury obviously Aaron Rodgers come back from the collar bone we knew we were gonna seal last night Carson once who we talked Diane received earlier it sounds like he looks incredible right now for a health standpoint. And then after that to Shawn Watson in Houston and what he dealt with a knee injury seeing him on the field as well getting out there Freud is up there for one series to series in one series four plays. You know nothing of note different Shawn Watson under the in the fact that he played. In Jaipur right ten you know into that mix as well because heavily on people Miami did they are frustrated when you don't mention him in that same conversation is a lot of guys I would think that it's fairly obvious why you don't mention. In the same conversation but Tom Watson being healthy JJ watts is being back on the practice field even is a great great sign. We know the NFL and you're you're gonna pile up between now and the start of the regular season but still when he of those new teams that register. Across the country are back in the mix. That was good to see we hope that some of the injuries saw last night whether it's George Kindle and now breed in San Francisco Gary's guys in Washington. Turn out to be nothing more than. Small issues they can be resolved before the start of the regular season. Move for the one of those this field Yates is with us in studio here and tell insider Tennessee grew the one that that looked to most problematic might have been guys in the law that MRI today on that need to figure out what happens there. Our let's go off the field there for a second with you feel because there's a lot of contractual stuff going on let's finds the start with something that actually was result the pictures like five million dollars to amber yeah just because right seems a quick fix right and I think that you don't add on on the obvious. Scale and he hit those five million incentives we don't know the specifics of those yet but I imagine there be very much within reach for Tom Brady completes 50% of your best exactly you know eighth touchdown pass be on the roster where number well yes. Com. Namely Bucs were still tied him for hand in terms of cash intake this year amongst quarterbacks are still massive bark at me it's crazy to think that. Although some of its deferred not minus 52 point five million dollars in cash coming his way this year yeah. It's gonna be the political debate it's good to be the case on timing is everything in life but her Brady and patriots. You know there's been so much talk about the relationship where things stood. I think is pretty much it's sort of reaffirms that like the balls back and that's mattered most of them in New England. Rating will be compensated in in a different way mini mysteries has yet to be compensated. And and whether that means they have to do a couple other things of their salary cap to create some extra space to have a slush fund going into the season remains to be seen but. Brady is. Firmly. They're quarterback for this year and I would imagine that until the expiration of his contract nominee plans which is after 2019. Nominee plans to do anything other than have numbered. All going on here Ernest Henry are trailing go Michael junior field gates in studio with us and relationship seems interest -- obviously we've got to see a lot of the relationship on the field and hard knocks the Cleveland Browns but it was interesting seeing the dynamic last night all of the hype and understandable excitement surrounding baker may feel being on a feel for the browns but also the really strong performance from Tyrod Taylor last night what did you make of the browns quarterback situation playing out last isn't it weird deceit at the brow like you know browse out of the quarterback competition so it's not as obviously speaker mayfield. In the future is Tyrod Taylor right now. But it it shows you he'd be importance of throwing a lot of dark the quarterback Borodin and hoping define the resolutions year 25 year problem. Tyrod Taylor was steady 5599. Yard touchdown pass on I thought it was more than stat as I looked really good fan of that pack that throw don't catch it to David joke who was awesome amount you know cut. Local tree in and you know stuck in the mud their first couple linebacker Scott put the blunder last night certainly wanna get shared it and I thought that you know the browns. Here's the thing is if you look at all the moves braid the browns made this ops. Obviously the draft attracting a Victor mayfield is a for the future and other and that pretty much everything else they did was about getting better immediately. Obviously injured for five years attorney for him during the Tyrod Taylor signing Michael Kendrick. Don't do it's a shifting on the offensive line until Antonio Bowen left tackle what these moves are made. Carlos Hyde and free agency to that you can win right now and get better. Who gives a bad bad shot I think it's pretty obvious that Tyrod Taylor given the best shot to go from zero wins maybe six or eight yet they need wins let's be clear hue Jackson zucker survive another one and fifteen always 162 and fourteen even 313 season what do they say to win football games he's coached at what he says and what do they say it or not whether they acknowledge it. He Jackson's coaching for shop eat you don't go 131 and not coach for governor exceeds partly let's get to a couple of contracts that haven't been result in less need the rams GM said in talks with Erin Donald. They're in the same zip code. Which is a wide variety of ways of saying hey I can deliver the mail to you but you may not be the house right next to me so how close are we to getting this thing done in my thing at this point is like close. That that's relevant portions angered aids and global thermal and go to war. The doctor right. Till it's done it's it's not. It's a matter of if it's done. Or it's not done. Because they're Donald blew past that Tuesday of this past week deadline where. In theory the rams could delay his undershirt free agency by a season Erin Donald's not coming back into against the deal that he wants. Cabinet any seconds. But you know close to me. Means that era doll has. Pen in his hand. And is like inches away from signing the contract not like during the same zip code and the rams like at the McCann have a very competitive offer I just think it it's. When you're negotiating bull will be the largest. Most likely. Contract prevents a player in NFL history. Easily it's. It's not a run of the mill it's complicated so I think it takes two to tango and I think eventually gets done. So that's complicated don't want it to me is looking more and more maddening is now we did in tribute pre season game getting played for them this was the second pre season game Iran halting and game the bears and broke while Smith and what they're really talk about a rookie deal at some point I understand the language we've discussed along the way but this is starting to border on ridiculous yeah I mean I don't think it's a massive mystery as to what they're haggling over a few well it's about it's. You know the potential for atheist suspending it in the team void the guarantees in his contract and some of the other you know the the minor nuances of a deal. What happens often these things is it is it beat it becomes principle for strike teams say wolf we give you this that our feature rookies are not also be asking that. I'll say this I hope people are picking sides this early in this I think that's sort of silly I think it's well you know you you know that's going to happen if that's. I imagine most people are probably picking the side of the player in this case. Which I understand why. I would. It takes a lot of mental fortitude. To hold out for this long is a player who has not yet played down in the NFL correct wants to be out there with his teammates. Wants to be a massive contributor for his beer even. Go back the draft it's York College vote junkie tray is the EU are the host of rental draft coverage and there are a lot of people that felt as though the best prospect. Ready to contribute right away in the straddles broke wants. Month and a half ago. Showed Obama feel last night your job mix and scored on an ice touchdowns went out to the side cover bile linebacker though was not broke on Smith and he got loose and he got the end zone and you're reminded. There's why there's is value in these running backs an excuse me in these linebackers coming into the league because of running backs of these multiple weapons you've got to cover all over the field. And those are the guys and if your going to keep any semblance of your base personnel on the field. Have to be able to step up. It was a rarity in listen in this once a weird one because I'm all for the players getting all the money they can't it just seems like this is. So let's get home that shouldn't be shouldn't be having this issue especially last year when within major raid and got. Spent a couple of times didn't take any of his money right so that they party shown they won't put on the road aren't just weird I always figured this way for these first round picks a tennis I would even notice that you shouldn't be citing tend to think about this from a from a player standpoint is this is that like these teams they're protecting themselves in the event that a first round pick goes Bronx. Players like. You'll prefer something goes wrong that some of Wenzhou on the team itself or you're valuing the best 32 prospects in the draft and you're picking the top eight which the bears were like he should be guided had no offense but none whatsoever. Broke one by volatile accounts was as clean of a prospect offensively. He probably had this crap. Yes it was great I feel you get the puck estimate that eleven. And Nantes on Twitter eleventh where half are part of policy field mr. gates with a C studio. And the best of go what can we go podcast. You can live. 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