Oct 11, 2018|
The guys talk with ESPN NFL Analyst Tedy Bruschi about the Chiefs/Patriots matchup before bringing in Bubba to play Love It Or Shove It & more.
The guys talk about the MNF game and wonder if this uptick in defense will remain before talking CFB with Paul Finebaum and all things NBA with ESPN NBA Analyst Doris Burke.
The guys talk with 10-time Pro Bowler Joe Thomas before speaking with potential Defensive Rookie of The Year Darius Leonard of the Colts about his fantastic season & more.
The guys talk with Paul Finebaum about the Heisman and upcoming CFP before talking NBA with Doris Burke and more.
The guys talk with ESPN NFL Analyst Ryan Clark about the Seahawks/Vikings before going through their NFL Superlatives for the weekend and more.
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Graduate this golden lingo is paid radio and ESPN news on a Thursday morning presented by progressive insurance cellphone guess story is on the show opens all performance line Michael tree we go here you get in touch with us. Couple ways one in order flowers dot com Twitter feed at golden wing goal or call in 860. 5065505. Where tried to figure out exactly what Jimmy Butler wants what do you think you warrants. What does he really say he wants besides respect. And truth once we want honesty and once the Lou love more than anything else so let us know get some of those little bit later but. Week six of the NFL starts tonight and as always we talked football we're delighted to have the brew crew and us. He is criminal and a finals Tedy Bruschi is there with us break it down not only start of the week tonight. Which is the giants and Eagles which we'll get to a second. The Teddy it is a fascinating game you're giving us straight talk brought to restrict or wireless does phones those networks are contracts Sunday night in Foxboro. Showtime homes Patrick Holmes in the chief's role in the fox were a you're going Alex Smith. They upset the apple cart and the celebration of the championship banner and beat him and all that kind of stuff and now they got my homes. How big of a test is is going to be for Bill Belichick and company. It's. Being in the on the defense you know how much of a test that is when. Coach Belichick breaks out different fronts and different defense is just to counteract what he's about to see red I remember when. We were playing the Eagles when Andy Reid was there before the Super Bowl Super Bowl 39. And we came up in him an entirely different front. For the for the start for the majority of the game just so they had to do a little thinking take them out of their plan a little bit because. Bill knows that he is gonna sees something that you know that they they couldn't anticipate I mean last year. Watching that re watching that game vs the chiefs during an inverted wishbone in the backfield Kelsey played quarterback. Chelsea ran the ball as the quarterback the pitch up the middle of those type of things so. How do you draw off things up in the dirt for practice to prepare against that well. You know what let's throw them off front or something they haven't seen yet so they have to do some sideline adjusting to and that's how we did back then and that's the same thinking that he's gonna have because. Now they have a young quarterback in my home so we'll kind of disguises or fronts to show him to take out of take him out of his game a little bit. It's as this is the this is the ultimate chess match in terms of what shall seat within those first ten to fifteen plays the script. That's a big goal for me with the patriot defense survived the script in terms of what you're gonna seek. Ten to fifteen plays on a script now for offensively so what they see inside and adjust to. It's always had to preserve Patrick we're home safe and we notice about doing on that they're they're tough to scout on film because you're not sure which are ready get it's not like you're inventing new defense as your just using defense is that they those teams haven't seen yet. And to try confused and sort of that point. This stat still to me is amazing you know 2001. Bill Belichick is 23 and organs quarterbacks under 25 years old pat roams as torn rib so he kind of fits into that mold. When you get into games and you're there since 2008 to you were there for polonium these. When you get any games with a young quarterbacks. Is there even more emphasis on changing things up on defense are confused young quarterback. Absolutely especially I mean we had a young patent. I mean even just making it's so silly that you sort of laugh what you're doing because but in any -- just know that. What the thought process of it is of that young quarterback sort of Rolodex if you will isn't full yet like I've seen that before I've seen this would have seen that it's sort of is a coverage memories photographic coverage memory in terms of okay what's this one here Mimi is a linebacker lining up all the way on the outside of the defense of left side dropping back to the hook to the right sites something like that and sort of trying to get his attention protection. For the offensive line and things like that. Safety playing corner you know Ty law and and Rodney Harrison switching positions various things like that you take it to the extreme. Are these young quarterbacks because you know you can fool. The guys that have seen it before you know they they think the calmly take it extend a snap count him and know your eventually that would be there are young quarterbacks now. Social let let's let's dive and that a little more priest every by an offense what do defense want to show and that eventually depending on how. Good the defense isn't getting warrior supposed to DB after the snap because that first second and a half for the quarterback of then reading the defense. Have you been able to see especially young quarterbacks in your on the field. Noticeably confused whether it's pre step or right after the snap like oh my god I don't know what the hell they're doing over there. Yeah just the face. How you can tell on their face usually when they're doing just a little bit more thinking and then. As there in their audible processed it stops. They sort of pause and then do the look around and then. So we get to the get to the offensive line retract things like that that's when you know you've made their brain pushed the reset button. So yes you see that a bunch. I think Andy Reid counteract that though with all of the formations that the defense defense has to adjust to like well. I can't adjust immediately. If I see Travis Kelsey in the backfield or at Tyree kill might have been a certain place because I have to make adjustments myself. I was like OK I can't I can't get out of my comfort zone here because when the ball snapped I gotta make sure myself in the court and the coverage adjustment is made. Before I end up trying to show everything else so a stagnant offense you remember the colts those. It was Harrison on the left almost our every single time and in the receivers were set so Payton wanted to see. And that fell into sort of the trap of defense has one to do whatever they wanted to do. Amid the smoke and mirrors type of motion shifts. I think more guys that went in motion a couple cigar there a bit apparently but I was unbelievable I mean it's. I think that drop had a drop pass and appointed to confuse themselves in a mobile means people bunched on the left motion summoned to the right motion another person to the right most and somebody back him in the other way. I can't disguise. I can't I gotta make sure we're lined up right. Yeah so that's how he Connor access for his and so much that is just window dressing to get you to think about stuff that really has nothing to do with the play. Yes and that's why Donta hightower saying out there to do your job to begin to hurt my Greece I say that the patriots nation reporter about. Okay this is my responsibility on the left side. Don't get tricked out of vacating that side to pursued too early because something's come right got to anticipate something coming back so that's why it takes you on your game so it. Are there. As well I'll try again. Tedy Bruschi hero of us in studio. But this game is kind of the future is it not because what we've seen in the papers the last few years with cattlemen hold on him and dole. Getting all these crossing routes and people in space in the matchup you want is sort of what Kansas City is doing in a different way. This is the way the games. All. Absolutely sort of a wide open type of in almost Saturday college football come and spread everything out you know get the defense to move and be deceptive. Offensively. Or spread them out and then. Take advantage of the space that you created by alignment various things like that if you have a weapons like Kelsey and I gronkowski. That's a whole different set a set of circumstances that you can. Add on to but in terms of it shifts the motions the smaller receivers that can get open option routes things like that wide open type of offenses with the quarterback that can spread it around. That's what everybody wants now. So we're report that came son and AdAware game tonight so that the NFL week six kicks off tonight we're with two teams and horrible division. With the Eagles against the giants so before we begin on the field. And I'm sure you've done it all week but for us hear your thoughts of what's going on in that locker room and photo back to masters interview and I'm talking of the team and where those dollars well. Mean oil Beckham junior is I think you just have to accept who he is I mean he's a he's a great player and and certain things are gonna have to deal with I think and I think Shermer understands that. Hum what I really what I really was fascinated by this week was the comments about sequent Barkley. I tremor in saying how we sat with them on the plane and trying to talk about to the media his genuine. Leadership in how he wants him to be a player. You know those conversations you have with the coach that are supposed to be sort of private wary that they sit sit next to you or your young in your in the doormen. In in training camp or something like that and think they give good pare phrase you keep doing what you do. You know that's sort of a sort of up. Validation of what should do what and who you are and who you're going to be as a leader we want you to be that guy and him sort of in estimating that about. Giving sick once sort of that night. Mean that might have been a mistake you know and sort of let that out that they'll all these other guys that are I mean even O'Dell Beckham junior you know Shepperd what he did on the sideline I think he might have seen or heard about shepherd on the sideline and game and said I gotta get seek one for the its hand right because of say Kwan gets its way jumps into everything so let's take like a civics we exit plan. And to be clear students is sterling Shepperd pull little dough on the kicking a pace that would trash can address I started at Carolina and didn't try this. If how was the head coach of that team and I saw that I was shut down now ships doing this stuff. You were on the plane going home aides say quonset right here for a second and we talked to you in just tell you about. Keep doing what you're doing okay because it's it's what I want to see it's with the team needs deceit. You're going to be driving this bus soon. All right basically is is sort of a Parcells as the wouldn't tell his young players you're gonna be driving the bus so set the example set the tone. And there's my little endorsement right there but he gave it publicly in the media which was interest. Do you think that was the message sent to O'Dell as well so it Corsica and it could've been also to the players that. Maybe faith that what people do about it you know what I mean in terms of aren't pets heads fall off in our immediate term it militarism we're now we're losing ship is getting crazy on the Sinai whenever there's a little bit of adversity I mean who who we also look to coach. Maybe used over and I was other team what you guys looked sick on because this is the wits will be done. So let's Woolsey from the giants' side we know. Obviously we talked a lot about what's been going on on the field them for them poorly or for Philadelphia mr. Super Bowl defending champs yeah out of the gate not very good right off the bat what's going on Wear them. Know what's wrong with their defense because. Oh it was much better last year in my opinion I mean it's you have the most when you have one of those aggressive type of defense is I mean. If you play it's. Too aggressively you're trying to make too many plays there's certain things that offenses will put will do do you that take you out of your aggressiveness or take advantage of it. Little bit a play action pass wide open receivers you got corners that are vulnerable to the double move I mean that's the book right now on the Philadelphia Eagles. Throw low play action pass on them double moved to the mills we can get chunk yardage plays. And right now that's been successful for teams and I mean that's that's why that's what they have to stop the pressure isn't there like it was you know what we're talking about last year. All army and they've got. 567. Defense of linemen come and accurate passer but if you're aggressive and don't get that consistent pressure and you throw little missed direction you're gonna have. That and we just said Sal pal parlor talk about the offense veterans making the mistakes the cheap penalties right chairperson fifteen cent a first and temperature behind Jerry Tucker a self inflicted wounds now that you know like that this week governor of that locker room with this was new ski they took out there out cents and he went public about well and that's following validation that yes you go public quit what does this new social media -- -- NBA public -- everything in my feelings generation you know and now heads up out my feelings now idea that would. Edit my Teddy a lot of people are talking about the potential Super Bowl. Hang over for the Eagles I hate that term is to me it sounds like 'cause when you have a hang over it you messed up you did not prepare yourself and I don't think that's going on but how real. Is the idea of knowing that it's just. Because you're the last team to do it. How hard it is having reached the pinnacle to regroup. Refocus and recommit at that next level cause you know every game is somebody else's super. Even to fail a couple times like we did after we won in going back to back in and being successful. And what I've learned from it is of course everyone knows you're gonna get your best shot. I give back all those cliches but all that OK true it's understood understood but what's not understood well I think the Philadelphia Eagles are going through is like. It's sort of you put pressure on yourself. When you when you lose one or two games. It becomes it becomes so big because you think to yourself. With a chance we should be beaten everybody right. But that's not the way it was the year before. And it's not the way it's gonna be now you're still gonna go through times where you're gonna struggle as it it happen all that entire championship season you struggled you have ups you have downs but now. You have this thing in your mind that you got it all figured out we are the champions of the world we should be dominating everybody that's the thing you got to understand no call. You can be dominating everybody is going to be just as hard as it was. And to hear the Eagles talk about past and that's not what championship teams do we got to start being a championship team again slightly. It's their mind you see like you might Wear the champs we should be pressured these people it's not going to be that way at all. So how did you guys and what did bill do specifically to get you guys through that first we failed to act one and I'm not there a point until it's got to fuel up or I was worried that there were worried about Wear blue or blue your what about other things like 88. Gotta do little bandage and it will guided tour you're a yeah. It was a different look in order to do you did real ammo for that oh. You don't give it you know and so we had to fail and so that's why it's so hard you fail and then it's hard to get back up so that's a big. Got to go through this they've got to go through this and winning another game when you're feeling this way you start to realize that you start to learn but it takes a while to put that behind you because especially. With us in a one. With Philadelphia last year I mean you remember just the Phelan that region guy that that that that city that and I. You've made people's lives you know I don't mean to go one story about dumb as a I'm a girl came up to me and said my of my grandfather wanna meet thank you because now he could die happy right because who won the first title it's like that type of overwhelming. Joey did you show. We saw that in Philadelphia now I had. For the well I certainly desperate to get on from that it's hard. Another big game Dario talk in the air sea about this Kansas City doing a match up you know is the winner possibly in that front runner for. A whole field throughout the stuff forget Cincinnati. And then Cincinnati Pittsburg they play each other in Cincinnati this week's Cincinnati come back to be Miami last year or weaken this Burgess smoke in Atlanta. Where do you see that game are we giving Cincinnati as much love as they should deserve right now. I think got to sort of recognize especially this offense to the Bengals. Of course and AJ green is what he is but in pressure situations even even. Couple weeks ago when they drove the ball down mud on the field on Atlanta to win the game down in the end Tyler Boyd. Is becoming someone maybe Dalton two that's my guy right there because there remote. Third down in May fourth down in 64 down conversion he went to Boyd. Quick little looked AJ green but now I know have this confidence in this kid Tyler board racquet just throw it to him on any any situation and he'll make the play. That type of trust with multiple receivers if Nixon comes back now he's he's he's coming back now we had a good day let a good day last week you got another. Weapon that this Bengal offense I think we're gonna start to see. There's 21 GO gets back now to Chris he's and so we get the two of them together absolutely absolutely I mean they're they're able to put some points on the board also looked that'll be interesting but. As Tedy Bruschi silliness. Everyone's going to be watching this Kansas City patriots game for a variety of reasons but. You you and I talked about this in the halls were coming in here and hopefully it's exactly right you know if if kids taken on to do it no one's ever done which is that quarterback young to take down Bill Belichick team. They will essentially have a four game lead. Up for race for home field advantage in the AFC and Bill Belichick doesn't wanna talk about this and obviously reporter tried to go there with a minute went about as well as you can expect this. Villagers who played capacity and advancing this kind of things that they're little by cancer. That he went. Higher stakes game and Lula was playing Kansas. I always wonder why you you going there with bill I don't the second crowd you know how this is gonna go. And that's the message he's sending to the media and that's the message you send the team but as a player you guys are aware of what's at stake here right. Especially when your experience championship players I mean you have two players in that locker room that when won a super bowler to an gone deep in the playoffs on a regular basis and you realize. What's given you success in those playoffs to eventually get the Super Bowl goal achieved. And it has home field advantage and it is whoever it may be getting them into Gillette. You know that you recognize that and realized that when you have those past experiences to go off off you know so. They start thinking about it right understand and you realize the hole you could be and you lose this one are you just. Number two seed what do we have to do because of that the tiebreak head to head in the Kansas City you figure art. Raiders they say that these games are looking a little bit you do if you have that experience his players looking ahead so it's in their mind in terms of they probably might be playing this team again. Bill does a great job of deflecting his best he can and the players don't talk about it either but. It's on the mind. Another big game I think is a team and up and coming team that we're saying well look at look at these guys is Chicago. For one put it could be five or or three and one could be foreign all correct and they won that first game that big lead against agree bay. Then the but the three era they want and they get the by. So the break sky get hit on him right now they go to Miami. Talk about that coming off a bye when you've been successful which I'm sure you guys have been many times when you were New England going into a bye where he hit the brakes and then after re load real. Almost mean and stopping momentum for a young team and on Maggie is an inexperienced head coach but it was always in terms of how the coaching staff handled by a week and it's a little different now I mean they have they have to have the mandatory I think four days consecutive consecutive laughed that hard so. Before they leave or when they come back what's the emphasis is the coach really on them in terms of various situation of things how he handles that. How bill that bears look. Okay against. The dolphins I think is going to be a an aspect of okay how did Matt Maggie handle the bye week with this team that's something to look for but have very similar to Kansas City. That's just what that office is two or three run only in the we use him in almost shifts in motions why I love. I mean. The bears and I have all year is it Mac met Maggie come and over and once they got Mac. NFL defense is now. Our offense is gonna move the ball opened on the field so you can I try to look at situation or defense is on third down red area rushing the quarterbacks in big and then and then who has the best finishers when you're close game in the fourth quarter the finishers and they have a lot of mama bear front so this is the team generally like. This is a really interesting game for Chicago because you know you have a Miami team that thought they were good they got smacked around by the patriots and Eagles seventeen to nothing in Cincinnati the above 27 answered their back home. There's coming off by like is it will look a lot about the Chicago team this week. I think I think. That case. Those mental just bombs that were dropped on his team the last couple weeks you put everything in the B and three you know and then you're in the best situation in terms of going out to going and where three you know escorted and see if we can finally beat up Big Brother. And you get smacked around now my short game on let's let's bounced back. Let's bounce back and get this win vs Cincinnati if it were up seventeen and at the Everett was brought home another bomb. Mental toughness how coach handles that to get is dated team Ottawa. Funk like this now we'll Seagates. It's really really intrusion lot of great match of this week in Teddy always good having this article thanks for urgency on an awful lot that's. If you're a smoker you know switching isn't easy tried Bates and these rigs they just didn't deliver the satisfaction you expected jewel. Is different. It's not any cigarette it's a bigger product that actually satisfies. Us. 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Good welder showed off against former giant Chris Canty just pretty much set as much on ESPN new York and you point and I I'm gonna shop I don't know about laughing stock you know not mean we are we have certainly seen other players speak up in the locker room and they didn't lose on a 63 yard field goal the way we had research looked at up. Their only been four game winning field goals in the history of the NFL ten seconds left. All of them have come against the giants. In less than a calendar year now account your last year Philadelphia 61 yard field and 63 yards Sunday definitely grab you know I do not I shot that I do not think Carol laughingstock. I it's not like they were and it's not this year but the last couple years when clearly Cleveland was a laughing tucked and I mean are now. But that was different at this just the giants go through some tough stuff that I can ominous job that I don't I don't he's. The Astros a slight betting favorite male suggest slower version of I listen the Red Sox had a better regular season I get that Astros are the defending champs are no promise that I'll love that I have no problem the defending champs you know you're you're still in that you moved on your. Swept my Indians pretty easily there saw I don't have a problem of MB the betting favorite at all not I love that for a couple of reasons one. You gotta come get what they had and they have the starting pitching. That would make it very difficult for anybody. And they have. The bagels will win the AFC north love it or shove it. There won the division in 2013. And 2000 you know their foreign Warren Eagles who they host this week or 22 and one so. Used to do the math if the Pittsburgh wins where that's going to see our snotty I'm the Steelers I'm sorry. I think Cincinnati doesn't I'd love their offense you know black and tied for the lead in sacks on defense getting pressure on the quarterback. Thought I love the citing the Bengals are gonna win the AFC north the lady Annabel I know is going to come back will be play for Pittsburgh Roy and him getting treated right or not but I'll go with the Bengals won in the north you know I feel like. Seeing what's happened recently with the Bengals. I should know better. But I think I'd go with a two out I liked the way they've done things. Getting that defense of core taking care of and you saw the kid to lead after the second or third round Hubbard out of Ohio State make a big play out last week. And you know what they have offensively. I think I like the Bengals at this point I really do. I love it good by the way ya goal like window and Bubba reminding you. That we'll be live from liberty bill tomorrow covering the Pitt Notre Dame matchup part of Israel radio's fall football torque. Brought to you by. 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The NFL's become glorified college football overshot Tom Brady said kind of something like Canada we ire earlier in the week I shot that I don't. Thanks so parts of our and I think it's marked. For coaches instead of having these core and it's because of the quarterbacks coming into the league instead of saying okay forget everything you do in college you're now playing the NFL style I think it only makes sense to use. Their skills right as best you can work it in somehow it's not gonna become V way of the NFL what is gonna become a little more. Part of the NFL but as far as it's glorified college football I completely shocked that. Mike I can't believe I'm saying there's no I think I love object you look at the best teams in football right now especially on the offensive side. Gates what we see at a Kansas city's most you know when the for years by the way as is normally the case. They're light years ahead of the stuff. When you first come into the scene. 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I go doing go here with you again it's been a wonderful day to pay homage to Allen Iverson because we tell them I'll practice meant. We're talking about the practice session where Jimmy Butler finally showed up. And what nuclear went to Defcon one. Would his teammates. Not only did he take. And the bench players and himself and beat the starters minus himself in practice was emphatic going up and on the floor. Yelling at not only the coach Tom Thibodeau but also Jim Scott late new blanking need me here went through all this stuff. What I find most interesting about how this played out Mike is that our Rachel Nichols and has a great job for us on the job does a great job. With a series she tweet out she got the call. That Jimmy was ready to talk. And so she went there to do this interview. After the practice that went Browne so it's certainly seem like Jimmy was orchestrating this all for some specific reason. About how this is going to be going down he won the trading came out went through all this practice so we showed up which was huge win now Tom Thibodeau got to the door. So then Rachel asked a question does that mean that you're here. Everything is okay and you're ready to go forward. I think you would think that I think you think that I would think that two when he thinks it's not the Celtics residences is not fixed is successful. It could be it could be. But do I think so. Could you gotta be honest. Yeah I'm being honest do I think so no I'm being honest with you but is everybody going to be honest no no everybody is not going to be artists like if you go say. Well Tony all told. What do you sit in practice urban song. Bono and be honest I don't care and that we do about it now but you don't then that's it. So it's not it's not fix it could be and beyond what do they what does he want them to be honest about how to correct because he would said that about when I got here I told him straight up how I want it you know what what he wanted what was that. What's your honesty is looking for he talked about being wanted. Act like you know you want me I mean are you serious I mean. I hear more of that more nowadays which is just like. I got I mean the day the old respect to me thing you know and our AD user wrote respect he used Odyssey held a lot. As well as long as passion. Now the interesting thing is going forward what does he do he was in the building so he's gonna be a practice again today. Practice can be the same way if let's be honest you watch or use what the let's be honest I didn't. You want to be traded we saw others retiree or saying he wanted out they traded right million have to know. They don't have to trade Jimmy Butler Tom Thibodeau has a lot of courage your regardless got laid the GM doesn't watch it very Gerry Butler of the order. Watched that Don but now it was in the village are now what happens. Only way he gets traded or at least the thought of being traded if he becomes a pain in the butt right. No and a lot of players Justin said a final DJ says you know from when quite honestly even Jimmy Butler said Thibodeau is probably going to be core of what he's doing no love laws talk missile that question about that so unless he is going to be just a thorn in everybody's side and a wedge for that team that affects the possibility of winning. I don't think you're gonna trade him and I wouldn't hurt any either well here's Adrian awards announce you on that very scenario will he still be traded and who was it up. If Tom Thibodeau is making this decision. Today only further cemented that that tiger resists doing a trade the short term because he got Jimmy back in the gym and he got to play against and Jimmy says is coming back to practice tomorrow. And that's what Tom has wanted throughout this if ownership decides that it doesn't want this spectacle or they feel it's too big spectacle does ownership make a deal that's been the question the whole time here would ownership let Tom Thibodeau Scott Layden manage this process. Or would ownership take Glen Taylor take it over himself. But in talking to teams I don't think that the teams who have an appetite for Jimmy Boller nothing today changed. So the the appetite for Jimmy Butler hasn't changed but the question then become might this is a power struggle was just be honest. I don't struggle for watch between I don't know not for Jimmy between whether he's traded between the ownership who had cleats clearly seems like they want him gone. And Tom Thibodeau as godly in the GM who know that their best chance to be any good is with Jimmy Butler on quite honestly go to may have talked to Jimmy Butler. If Jimmy Butler is in a pain in the butt. The norm in late are gonna Q why would the order eventually traitor if he's not being a pain in the butt he's. Go to help your team 3722. News on the court last year ten and thirteen when he wasn't. To me this is all on Jimmy Butler if Jimmy Butler. Doesn't become that pain in the butt he's gonna stay on that team and all of a chance to lure them and then you'll see what happens. After you know again now that you do a lot of walking did nothing formal soon it may happen on the trade deadline as such but I think for right now if he has not. Divisive in that locker room more on that court I don't know I don't know why you were traded him especially if you have already turned on the trade exit I don't know what on what the parameters war with Miami over the weekend I got like yeah they were looking at they were right as medical that's how close you had a real close. But you want what I didn't want to triggered yeah. Yeah top comedy lose his job they just trade him Tom not all it's exactly right. He may be forced to trade him right but by the ownership so listen this is gonna come down to. How much the ownership of this team really wants to put their stamp on the basketball operations right could you hire people to do that now. And then you can say yeah we signed the checks so we you may want that this is what we need to have happen. And you're right it's up to Jimmy Butler I get the feeling that it becomes I get to practice and he says he's going to. He gonna do this you know I grew up or does it again. Then we it's pretty clear to me that he is doing everything in his possibility. To make sure he walked out because all I knew him out. That they would have to get rid of again we tell them I'll practice Smith and we'll continue to talk about practice sort talk about practice in the NBA. In the NFL we're talking about. Superstitions. Our and a ball players really superstitious. Apparently one quarterback is and we'll get to that next on go to wanted to stay with us.