Oct 11, 2018|
The guys talk about the bizarre Jimmy Butler story before transitioning to tonight's game with Sal Paolantonio. They also bring in Tedy Bruschi and play Love It or Shove It.
Jason Fitz in for Trey. They talk about the NBA All-Star weekend before breaking down the NFL and Colin Kaepernick settling their collusion case with Louis Riddick & more.
The guys talk with Mel Kiper Jr. and break down his latest mock draft before continuing their conversation on Colin Kaepernick and more.
The guys discuss Anthony Davis saying that the Boston Celtics are still on his list before breaking down the likely teams that could try and get Antonio Brown and more.
The guys talk about the Colin Kaepernick collusion case with ESPN NFL Front Office Insider Louis Riddick. He wants to see Kaepernick get another shot to play in the NFL.
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Glad you lettuce sold illegally is in radio is it to Michael Torrey we go here with you presented by progressive insurance. Awful just joined us on the shelf pencil performance line but with a lot to get to Jack had gathered a lot of different fronts that we did not seek coming. What are we left this place yesterday morning but we do need to address what has been another very serious situation weather wise now without a doubt here or came Michael coming up through the panhandle installed you know on its way up dumping a whole lot of arraignment and certainly what we saw him when he hit land yesterday. That it was that it was. Bigger than expected biggest source suggesting 69 it was I mean you know and then hit the people about their we know there's at least two dead. From this right now so certainly all our thoughts. 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Mike we're in the midst of the NFL season NBA season is about to start the NHL season zero get the baseball playoffs and lower bowl do walk into the studio what are we talk about. We talked malpractice meant we tell them I'll practice meant we'd talk and of our prep Allen Iverson who don't know. All bush years ago. And that they would live in infamy because it would Jimmy Butler did in his return to practice and what he did showing up to practice is without a doubt. Would everybody's talking about today brought you by Capital One. Capital One has re imagining banking offering accounts with no fees or minimums that can be opened five minutes Capital One what's in your wallet Capital One and day. So. I'd be black and I'm. Listen to what we we know the talk there was going out with him in the summer I turns out there was more conversation between him and Tom Thibodeau throughout the summer. And you know he said he wanted to be traded in thinking to rework how won't get into the reasons why. And then that coach didn't want freedom. Scott Layden GM did one of freedom but no it was like let's move limelight let's let's get going here. It wasn't done so they had their first practice so based here what did the practice is he took four guys at the end of the bench yes. And he went against all the starters. Minus him of course and beat a mall. In practice and did it away where he was basically finger pointing yelling challenging not only do players. But to the coach did you know the GM saying your bleeping me meter win you need me so you're just basically losing his mind at practice. While beating all the starters. With his with with the four guys at the end of the bench. And then basically did. What would be equivalent to a might drop now. And walked out of breath and walked out after he didn't just over took off now I don't and it was. It was bizarre walled stardom boat started tweeting about it he was pretty about it almost as it was. Happening or just just finishing. It was like old boy you know where where is this gonna goal and then then. Yes this sit down interview does Jimmy Butler or Rachel Nichols that had been quiet. Yet not that that's not for a long time plan but I find that part of it very interesting because have you viewed as Rachel's Twitter feed she said I got a text. From Jimmy Butler said armed ready to talk there was the night before type of roar so Giap on a plane to get there so. He obviously knew he was on a short to practice out. And he knew there go to talk to her and talked are so it kind of makes you wonder earned her stated this all thing was put together for this to exactly happened. The way this is played out so after his. Whatever you wanna caught article of tirade you wanna call it a well a venting session I'm better than everybody here situation. He sat down and talked with Rachel Nichols and basically said yeah everything you're it is absolutely true. A lot of Lister that is true but you know I think. I haven't played basketball. And and in so long council passed it in I love the game and I don't do it for any other reason its effort to compete. And go up against a best to try to prove that I can change so. All my emotion came out at one time what did the right way to do it no but I can't control that when I'm not they're competing like that's my love of the game that's a raw meat. Miette my finest him are curious that's what you're gonna do it inside the lines. Okay. But I don't know yes when he showed up to his first practice in the other top pointed his career didn't do this and I and I honestly don't know that. I mean we have no reports of that New York in a year will leave latest somebody to Jimmy Butler the two words your going to hear the most our passion and honesty yup. And you're gonna try to figure out what the hell was saying. Stunningly it's probably ought to come back to money which we'll get to as well. I really wonder if because he made it sound like hey this is what I do has them so passionate about the game mauled did you do it last year at the beginning can't the year before when you guys were you or did you were in Chicago together reviewing data Pratt and maybe wants I don't know but I remember hearing about it. Like this I also really there was more. This was more amp dot because her situation and he said he wanted to be traded he had been traded now he's got to go to practice. When a couple of guys are kind of had in in now Carl I think and we really has had to being to say about them. He's not real happy with that the administration. So I I think that obviously helped that but here a lot of hey that's just mere practice that error and the first of for Avaya I follows its. I have every seen this before your friend do you have maybe I just don't know that I don't. I mean this what is different obviously. Not only you what you said because of what was going on before but also the team in the pricing for awhile this was his first practice show up and maybe was more. It's bizarre so let's just sort of deal with bull thanks so that was him saying it's true and then racial said was that the right way to go of. Obviously is the right thing to know. I think that. I was honest it was a brutally honest yes but I think that that's the problem everybody's so scared to be honest one another. If you don't like the way to handle myself in in in practice one of the players come out and somebody say something. Anybody I'm not going taken offense is not personal to you should have done that if you're probably right I would say it I moved in I don't know how long. I mean I'm passionate about it I love the game and I love the win and that's all that they're doing was competing playing hard doing what I'm supposed to do on the basketball floor. So there's a couple of things there which are variant you're seeing. It's almost like according to what he was telling Rachel there. He he was trying to goad somebody in. Talking to him saying yeah are you okay or do you shouldn't be doing this. It's almost like he was trying to get a reaction not only from everybody. Like us but also from his own Soledad and from the sounds of there were kind of stock and write some like it on the law of the fire that he had an errant some more certainly taken aback. By it as well but again you heard the honesty you heard the passion. So that was weaved in and out of that and it's certainly goes deeper. And as Joseph here then just practice of having a player come tell me you don't like what I'm doing this seems to be his whole issue with the organization. Is honesty through the whole thing which again he's honest and he's passionate but it's amazing when you start hearing about the honesty in the passion and it kind of then maybe revolves around money a little bit well yeah. Whenever an athlete says it's not about the money the first thing I think it's always about the and we can get into that side of that a little bit. But now since he showed up and played with this demand to be traded. You know does that mean everything's fine does that mean everything's okay these ready to go and be a Minnesota to ball full. Racial Leszek wash. I think you would think that I think people think that I would think that to what he thinks it's not the Celtics but his nemesis is not fixed does it successful. It could be it could be but do I think so no could you gotta be honest. Yeah I'm being honest do I think so no I'm being honest with you but is everybody going to be honest no no everybody is not going to be artists like if you go assay. Well Tony all told. What Jimmy said in practice there but you know I mean Bono and be honest I don't care and that we do about it now but don't mean that it be honest. It got us. So here we go what salt Rachel to talks asked him about Tom Thibodeau saying he has two jobs here he's the coach of the team he's also the president of the team. And through this summer. As you as you're also talking about contract stuff they offered him a four year 100 million dollar 110 million dollar contract extension which he turned out. Rachel said that to him they offered you an extension there were giving you four for 110. The reports are that you won it's something else that they had moved some other pieces around and freed up more money. That you would've gotten you have gotten into a renegotiation. Would have given you a shorter term contract. Put more money is that accurate Butler said it accurate. And it's not about money it's not so that Rachel said. Tell me ordered to go out and misses him again. It's not about money it's about like saying. We need you we want you here we can do this about you. And that was the disconnect argue wrong like yours you're saying one thing in Hussein Hussein Hussein. I mean I've I've learned enough times in life that you know saying something's completely different and acting upon and when he came to that point. It was like let's don't know. What the deal was as soon as he traded form I've told you the truth from day one now continue to do it and I did it but. In main thing right maybe I'm not that important to your organization that is how I took it could be wrong. But that's how I look at it and that's why you get the quote that is all over in it from me today. Because I felt the type away. I feel that it haven't sent anything to anybody smoke first interview right now I miss anything anybody and it comes out so that's that's was all about this one of the film warning as wanna do do audio. We don't think we can do nothing death. OK so so this is where it takes a weird for me okay has he has said. I don't wanna be here bright bright he said trade and and the east and the ownership of the doubles is that yeah we should probably move on from this guy. So he's made it clear he wants out. And now he's saying I just wanna feel appreciated. Those things seem to be going up what are now he's he's saying you want to be appreciated that's why he wants out now because he wasn't being appreciated when he got there. And I don't really edit I mean now all of a sudden it's about the respect card. I mean how it ties is a goal back to that and what is perspective the league now that money it's money now again. After this year I believe what war is that after this year that I talk that they get off from. The team that Butler finishes this season wolf will be able offer my five year Max contract worth. A projected 890 million regardless of their cap situation. All other teams will be able to offer for years. And a 141. So I mean your your limit idol I'm like it's awkward to say limited when the exact money but what you can offer in years in this was they tried to. Given that extension this summer. But this is again what it comes down to somehow someway and in this is we don't know the specifics of it he doesn't feel like you were respected since he got there. And everywhere as we talked about to hold that he was. The dire they needed him or did that whole thing again. You know actions speak louder than words mean so what was it what what is that that's what I'd like to know what did they do in your mind through actions that take you to wanna be there again Carl I can you tell them money that they couldn't get the money yet today they can't give you that they could offer you that extension but can't give you. That Carla is in our. Owns yeah money just yet they could do after this year so. I'm still kind of at a loss for. I'm not being respected basically. And how do you do that. What exactly what could because you're right they hit given that kind of money yet so what could they do to make him feel respected the other side of this might that a lot of verbal thank. Is that Jimmy doesn't believe that there's some stores in the the Jimmy doesn't believe that Carlin that he doesn't Wiggins. Or is all in as he has right right and he actually addressed that with Rachel as well. Am I being a tough one yeah. Yeah I'm. That's who I am I'm not the most talented player who's the most out of parenting cat who's the most god gifted player but things. Weeks we've got the long his arms biggest haters can jump the highest run passes. But like who plays hardee's me I'll play hard I play really heart couple my body on the line everyday in practice everyday mundane thing. That's my past and that's how I give to the game that I give you guys. And an amber was talking about some leadership everybody leads in different ways that's how I so. I'm here for you I want you to be great I continue I can tell when somebody's on some BS in a jar amount of war because they haven't shot the bar. I'm in unity I know I know you. That's neat. Okay so now it seems like it's more about. He doesn't feel like the guys that may be got that money right are playing is fighting as he listened to your place our local assigned to the core ward one of the in that one of those second spectrum stats he runs the third most. As far as miles per game yes. Point six mile go per game last June 3 most in the NBA but. To his point about sacrificing. He also averaged one point two miles per game on defense tied to the third most accorded due seconds back. Seven and 42 where the whole thing is second spectrum by the way my third spectrum. 37 point three were oratory to him on the court ten and thirteen with him off the court. I agree with you there I don't think he feels the other guys play as hard as he doesn't everybody plays at different levels you like ever ready to play hard. All the time the dirt does play hardy does practice hard that's always been known about him I completely understand that. But went all the sudden I you know you start her. Two when you're really getting into this war can be a bow out there are certain times in a in a basketball players like you can get the money certain times you can't sell. We know after next year he can get the money. But it does it feels like he doesn't feel. Like again like he was wanted or wasn't the man or or what I mean I. I'm kind of that'll walk out of her dealings here now I I the other thing he's done a leadership okay. This showed up to yesterday. I mean you wanna be the leader. We'll later be apart of the situation be a part of the team from day one but no he said he wanted to be traded so now he wants to be the leader. Think seams very straight well and here's the bottom line. Unless she wants to be a aide just a disruption and write an absolute destruction which so like what happened yesterday well Woolsey when he shows up today in April by a syndrome. Actor practice today. And like she just does that. He has no other leverage and a nun did say want to be traded all walked like Harry and Cleveland traded him to Boston they have betrayed him. Yeah Minnesota. Does not one attorney Jimmy Butler knows too well what we're. There are projections I think from yes judge rejected that Minnesota continues his eyes third in the west. We Jimmy Butler on the pink. Jimmy Butler where Jimmy Butler again unless she's going to just wreaked Havoc in that locker room. Has no other leverage outside of just saying I wanna be true. It bubbled to that point about wreaking Havoc in the locker room Jeff tee eager timberwolves point guard was asked about what went on and what he thought about it. Counting is distracting me from maybe distress and some other news of the maybe to a man I love Jamie can use my god. He's not alone got a good team loans and none come being around his energy. Is a good person than it is amazing for me I can do anymore. Are you resisting any fan and that in situations the concludes. That's exactly what Jeff should say and some players recorded some work supposedly he would worry and had a hard daft. And in an hour adapts how hard the day and memorial leave. But you know after all that is and then every Butler saying it's about saying we need you we want you here we can't do this doctor I mean c'mon I mean. There's no way to do that is money and they can't do it until after the and now you're one other way you are are you doing got to meet your building a pretty good team and brought the red carpet at practice and I don't I don't know anybody having you with those big big giant batteries Wear while we're saying that there that's where there may be more that we don't know about that he's talking about that that I don't know all bobbled. When your rant rave or talk about this or that then you say that to basically the issue it seems to me like there has to be more than mashed. At a guy's gonna lose his mind and want out because. They don't say we need you. And they don't tell you we can't do this without you mean your play tennis speaks for that you're gonna get your your maxed out next year after you know after next season you know. I don't know I don't know what then the question becomes. Did what happened in the book it was a spectacle no way around it and it was sort of orchestrated spectacle Aminu is gonna show up. He texted Rachel I am ready to talk after ratio up so it seems like all this was orchestrated for very specific reason. The question then becomes because Miami try to make the deal for him all right good overview we can begs got a medical records me but I got back close they couldn't quite get the deal together. Did what happened at practice. I yesterday. In anyway scare somebody off of trading for Jimmy Butler here's a rewards now ski addressing that part of. If Tom Thibodeau is making this decision. Today only further cemented that that tiger resists doing the trade the short term because he got Jimmy back in the gym and he got to play against the Jimmy says is coming back to practice tomorrow. And that's what Tom has wanted throughout this. If ownership decides that it doesn't want this spectacle or they feel it's too big spectacle does ownership make a deal that's been the question the whole time here would ownership let Tom Thibodeau Scott Layden manage this process. Or would ownership take Glen Taylor take it over himself. But in talking to teams I don't think that the teams who have an appetite for Jimmy Butler nothing today changed. I I completely agree with that and two things I completely new group woes. Coach got him in the door up got him the door practice he says he's going to be back at practice today I highly doubt that it's gonna be as crazy awards yesterday. Will seat. And and and also one other thing Butler said that I grew. Others that I guarantee you that Thibodeau is in his office alone watching tape of that practice he smiling. And saying he loved it I don't know what. Nor did I absolutely. Agree with that that is a tough minded coach and bought a one out there basically. Challenged his teammates. Challenges teammates and I guarantee you coach love that I complete. Agree that's right traded form in the first place he saw that in Chicago when he wants to see him do that Minnesota so there's two things here might. Are you doing this if you're Jimmy Butler and challenger teammates to get them to be like you wouldn't get them to be better. Or you're doing it to say I'm so sick get this one out well we'll find out today because if you really want out of their you're gonna have to be. You know burrowing under their skin every day Americans say we need to get radio so let's hear what happened to practice and act and again. All I can say is you walk in the door we tell them I'll practice man talk about in practice today and Allen Iverson god bless you. Go what you window. And they way your Mike Foley senior. Golden window ESPN radio is into presented by progressive insurance. Awful guess join us on the shell Pennzoil performance on you can get Dutch and us to raise 100 flowers dot com Twitter feed at goal can we go or. Call an 8605065505. And I really wanna know. What do you think Jimmy Butler I was trying to accomplish me. We we think we may have a couple of ideas but we're not always knows that he wants honesty respect mr. honesty and he's passionate yes and quite honestly he's exiled player yet that. I'm still trying to figure out what's the end game let us know it's 60565505. Some eyes of Rihanna practice today Eveready waiting for a report of what happened today public Jimmy you know day. Her and we'll keep that updated four ought all the ESPN platforms ladies and gentlemen but there are actual not practice events. That we need to discuss. And that means it's time for straight talk brought you by straight talk wireless best phones best networks no contracts. Normally. When you have a team that has won in four and their playing a Thursday night game against the division opponent you would say. They allot. They lose tonight season's over. Not and 28 team not in the NFC east because nobody's gonna be out of this race Mike for a long long long long time the way this division is going but you do have won it for New York football giants taking on. Your world Super Bowl champion Philadelphia Eagles at MetLife stadium two and three bio to a 30 yeah and nobody over 500 in the snow Washington two or two or may play Carolina. And now pellet hole for Jacksonville is home for Jacksonville and arsenic through three so everybody's just sort of fair at the moment in the NFC east again in a division or no one has repeated since the Eagles did it. In 03 you know for the Eagles are trying to do that again this year but the giants of course created the stir last week with. The interview with Jesse Anderson right there was always. In the middle of it seems pretty political interview with Jimmy Butler it's a Josie and it is an interview Lil Wayne Bryant and O'Dell Beckham junior. So of course after the almost win. Which is what we are now referred to this that Sunday game against Carolina is they play better but they law they just. Yeah people are saying well the they've got energy they've got all this there on the offense yet played the offense and defense are durable third point yes they did. And so people are saying well OK here we go this is going to be good everything's news is rocking and rolling out or go back and got going all this kind of stuff. One person was having none of that. Is a former giant. I've worked with us Chris gave devious in New York 987. He FM in New York says. Look. I respect don't know. We like Goodell I don't know by an all this stuff you sell it all the time I got blood the ground over a MetLife stadium I was playing able format our stadium was there like I. I understand what it means initially giants pride when they shape the organization is the class of the NFL. Now what's the laughingstock of yet though you know what. It's become the number thirteen thank god given either human highlight -- he's gonna have you or sports and every single week but just what. He's also gonna have you played a relevant football because he disrupts the chemistry in that locker room and culture. That lends itself sustain winning you're not going to be go to established as long as he's in the forefront as a leader. You buy that well guards are a laughing stock hit here here's the thing as far as what he said overall. I would I would nine times out of ten say I agree them a 100% and everything you said right about a locker room. But then you have to say in Europe to ask yourself. Two days locker correct is it different and specifically this loch and is it if it is different how different is it because all we have heard that it. And again. Not sure sometimes if you're just here in the party line coming out to you because some guys who just who departed line others will speak out Michael Dell has. But all say he's a great teammate. All love forty brings obviously do the field. And all seem to be behind him now do I believe everybody's Bynum absolutely not I do not believe everybody I don't think Eli quite honestly. Is behind haven't heard much from realize it's all you have to wonder in today's game. Not so much today's game but today's society if this is just becoming more accepted. More speaking out again I'll say because of social media that guys just talk more. Where I do agree with him. Can you sustain that. Open Dow up one when things are good I can be really down. And speak his mind like he did when things are bad so while I think locker rooms is is that this one for sure and maybe others. Our little looser because of the times and everything it's kind of out there and social media. I do think there is something to consistency. And that's something from a locker room standpoint and leadership standpoint. I don't know all O'Dell has that will carry you. Through years because of the highs and lows and what he might say when things are going well what you want a steady typo of a leader. Correct. From everything we're hearing from that locker room it doesn't affect them that way. Now that yet run out they lose three more days exactly right it will if they start winning it won't. But but right away even in the loss you got the feeling that most of the giants Weirton Landon Collins we heard from. Sterling Shepperd and I think the Landon Collins one was more telling to me Mike. The sterling Shepperd is is built on guys I mean their boys and when he got went went O'Dell got the bag what do we far none on sterling shivers that jet ever. Then dancing together that he got paid so you would expect that from someone you're in the position room with that summit that your going through all the drills with but as was somebody on the opposite side of the ball. Doesn't care about any of that stuff has story about things had nothing to do would you when he it sounds like he has O'Dell's back. That makes me feel like OK I think at this point this locker was fine with a in the went down out I. I think and again sometimes. Is landing and say that because that's what should be said at that point that I got so we don't not afraid to speak out to be that is old daughter right now. Yeah you're right he'll go to cancer and then took it back when he was not a brain or go down that road more things I know I disagree with yeah going public with these things that's why I wonder and we especially in order in this locker room. Guys are gonna speak their mind but to Christian at this point. That's that doesn't bode well for consistent leadership know and that doesn't bode well for a great locker room when things start to go bad veteran drew characters found out you know that's when you really find out about people on their leadership roles. What do they do court they look to I've always said you should net you never need to vote for captain ever. Ever all players know they know they are sort of gravitate for when times are tough. When times are tough they know to gravitate four and they'll let let's be honest and that although Beckham interviewer what you've seen or heard a lot of eyes in mis yes okay. You know last funny talking there was a lot of ways I guess there were a lot of but that's what I'm talking about being consistent yes things were going well. I can do better I'd throw me the ball more I can help was worth which I did you saying. I think he believes he's saying the right thing it's saying. In god and I meet any week that the consistency I'm talking about good and bad keep a consistent throughout this is the team concept. Bowing to guide you in the eye meat stuffed with things are very good. That's gonna make it a little more difficult in the locker met we're already know guys speak out a bit him. Yeah look it's sort of the NBA model that we're seeing right in the NFL with what no O'Dell Beckham junior's doing look. If it wins cures every aides are George this is just stuff for us to talk about how now if they win at all it's cured. If they don't. That's when you see the little cracks it do they start to get bigger and bigger and become holes would become less galvanized yes opposed to more galvanize again. If they win tonight you watch everybody's going to be great but they lose again tonight. And there's going to be a longer time before their next game because of the many by. 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To be a quarterback or wide receiver record setting number of touchdown passes and what's really interest and all of a record setting number of points. And touchdown passes in the NFL this. Yeah NFC east is playing Neanderthal football club about longer than two. All fourteens. Are living in the dark ages of the Washington Redskins 24 in the league in points scored. Dallas. Thirtieth in the league in points scored. The giants 23. In the league in points scored and the Eagles want to be there not a single team Indiana CE. Scoring over twenty points. Per game that's the worst of any division in the National Football League and I figure out the ticket and a piece by piece it isn't just looking at eagle. And the giants playing tonight and I'm program that game tonight at MetLife stadium which ports that are Oates you know and a lot of doors euros. When you look at these two cryptic specific teams. They haven't. Completely two different set of problems. And it's really interest what's gone out to go all right now and whether or not come at a. So that's a question sell lease from Philly coming off the Super Bowl win in your mind what are the issues you you'd mentioned offense buckle offensive and defensively. Well let's go locked fence. Michael first of all veteran players make rookie mistakes. That and the do you want choose your paper now or hang over. Current players making rookie mistakes is good dictionary definition of course. It is false start penalties on achieved in Peter's. Last week against Minnesota Zach hurts. Nelson act a large piece of veteran players who want false start illegal formation call against ouch armchair. These are major veterans humbled by it went senate Johnny. Intentional grounding on lists. So you know you look at all the mistakes that they start the clean those up. The bill fumbled the ball but you are like that probably when bikini probably beat. Bite. So I know talking to Doug Peterson after the game after picking up according Cooley got into the culture locked the world. It's pretty clear that he says to me looks are I got a great sense of urgency. We got a beat and clinched the details we got a quarter of these little mistakes and start with the guts. So salas as they tried clean up those little mistakes as you said would there still is the big concern about the running game with a Jai now out for the year they they restructured a contract gets more cap room they said it wasn't about Levy on bell. Is it about getting somebody in there to help give some juice to that running game because Doug Peterson says that we do need to run the ball. Nobody is much more aggressive and Howard Grossman that GM vehicles. And if there's a deal to be made out there. He's gonna make war here's the problem right right. You got number eleven on that scene you're gonna have to pay them. A hundred million dollars loss right. I don't see how you pay I may be totally wrong about this and maybe the magician with the cap Howie rose Lincoln figured this out. And I don't see how I get paid now and lists. Next year I I don't see how did you do that so I think the better move could indeed need. Is bullish on the court. You know it's the delicate balance sheet you can't talk about players are that are. Or other team's roster right up publicly so the Eagles are not gonna talk about this whatever is done applause and all harnessing. And the fact that Sean McDermott did not back away completely comment yesterday right there's two meters a little smoke or. Yes that cell that's the thing that's most undersea Demi hear about the source America's Sean McDermott the bills that goes for those who don't know started his press conference yesterday. On. Provoked by just making a statement. About shady McCoy and the situation of whether or not he's gonna be traded the Eagles. Of course we all know what's happened in the past before when Cheney went back to Philadelphia as a member of bills he knelt down on the Eagles a logo at the middle of the field. And you know I was in the locker room after the playoff game last year and she you know I know whatever over many years in Philadelphia. And he certainly you know our. I'd I I'd I think Eagles tried to get beat back. They're clearly last year. So I and I I think I know for you know that they're there. As being somewhat of an interest in English on the quarter but I I don't know whether or not this is Leo I have no light yet. I I I I could see a scenario would be wary would come back. But at what price. Think people slaughter in the second and third round pick where we're running back to note that each I mean I don't know how you do that that that. You know you have to give him the bills are executive the year he got a second minute her collection home court. Part of south el Torre on the Shelton's all forms like I greet you completely if you get a for the right price I would give JD McCord overlay young. Consider what you have to pay want to think you're right on that as far as the giants are concerned shell you've been around the game of football longer than all these guys have been playing. Football for most of these teams saw and team locker room situations what do you make of what's going around the giants. Well you know it all started with just seeing Anderson's. Terrific interview with Louisville Beckham junior you know that sort of opened up everything. Ten. It period it's. Just fascinating dynamic to Chris. You know every time there's a problem. With the giants. People all over. One adult on Eli Manning dump that all of his lap I felt I just don't understand that and you know I'm the host of the match and show you guys know we knew we look at a lot of they'll absolutely. And you look at that nonsense and you know the design of the passing concepts and now not only all for you wanted to hold the ball down the field. So. No and how other teams. Have allowed Ben Roethlisberger. Ports home Brady. Would you breezed talk about quality tunes and all these guys. You know late thirties early forties still having success why. Because the coaches. Put them in the position to have success. Either great offensive line play. Or our running back who is dominant. Or in the case. Tom Brady just starting out you know what a great idea or a great scheme with Josh McDaniels allowing greedy the quarter. So I I don't I don't get why it. All the blame has to be on the last six sacks on. Did the defense is good and that's what I didn't apartments but it's four yards rushing per. So total Eli and I and I don't understand why don't beyond what I don't get back. Sell you said the very interesting there though you said because he obviously do you get of a magic show you guys do a great job on the show I love watching that show every weekend because it is about film study. And breaking down what teams trying do boy you just said was very interesting in that offense there's not a lot of concepts. That allow Eli Manning to throw the ball down the field. Is that maybe the bigger issue. I think it is I think when you look at them they don't have a lot of opportunities to get the ball down field. And maybe that's because Eli is not getting protected. And doesn't have the time and treacherous that you don't want. We we wanna be a quick strike our friends and Eli has always been very good run pass option alarmist rhetoric has been excellent in his career. You go back and look at that nobody's been better really other than maybe greedy. I'm looking at the line of scrimmage and picking out what has to be done once the defense is presenting whatever the defense present won't do Super Bowls don't. Won two Super Bowl doing it right so so so it's been successful or Eli in the past. Up. What can Trace its very important to write it to be specific about what happens with this game if you go back and look at last year. Eagles just gay. White against the giants right 61 yard field goal by Jake Elliott at the link. And then I'm not I'm all pass interference in the result. Against eagle that didn't go against Eagles have allowed the Eagles to win thinking. That should have been caught people that don't look at it giants receiver who could really help them into. And the giants could score there and beat the Eagles easily at MetLife stadium late in the Eli has always had this history. And I actually wrote about this in the book and it it Eli has always had. Great success against Jim Schwartz cop dances we've got to these yet against Jim Schwartz defense is because. What they do with underneath routes and controlling the middle of the field are and so. Tart south melatonin are he has been and a power reported he will be covering Eagles and giants tonight but his weekend how will continue Sunday night he'll be covering an act. The game in New England against Kansas City and before we talk to you about that cell. Let's relive the moment of Bill Belichick being asked just how important this match up this fantastic. With the villagers who played capacity and enhance this kind of things that they're I can't salute. The troops to win this. Pars this game and Lula was playing Kansas. Awesome I mean it is just awesome and to what instead I saw yesterday that blew my mind since 2001. When Bill Belichick goes against a quarterback under 25 years old and Patrick Holmes is 23. He is 23 at all. Is undefeated against quarterbacks that are under 25 years old. What does Patrick Holmes what do you think he and if that Kansas City offense how successful they can be against that New England defense. You are I think I've seen that number and you know that number is that number and we'll get away and hit six it's pretty telling that tells you that. And inexperienced quarterback. Going against one of the greatest cancer genes coaches of all time is a mismatch. But I'll say this it's different. They are absolutely pyrotechnic thought process. You have to cut you have to descend the entire field because of how attacks they are still. Harmed. And then would still see your ability to get open in the middle of the field remember how the game is being appreciated well. You know the number of illegal contract calls. In the NFL much tripled from last year you can't touch anybody we can do is go back a look at that Monday night. And how they will claim paddy cake. With the New Orleans Saints wide receivers and the lack well. So the middle of the field is wide open. And you've got great speed that means you have to quote really the same goal. What needs of grass on the field and then added on top of that. You've got a guy who not only can skate. Michael. But he began to roll on the run accurately. And with incredible. Velocity. What we have met Paul about art that exceptional now. And he's played a you know me and so I have smelling you got a guy who pulls into it. Like that. Where the ball comes out of his hand which such league rotation. And even blocks you'd like that what does that mean for defensive backs. It means you can't lose covered for a second you've got to be right on top. Yeah pat hit on hit. Shoulder to shoulder because you got to be right there in order to deflect the past because it right next to those guys so quickly. And once you do that. Race when you do that when you play that kind of past you that's what he's susceptible to illegal contact right. Well as we we really saw that I thought that the though. The beauty of my homes in that Monday night game against the Broncos were they for three quarters did everything they possibly could. And in the fourth quarter he just kept plays alive which allowed him to find those wide open receivers were talking about. South going to be great weekend for you starting tonight than you go to see the chiefs play the patriots and again. One the greatest shows on television they just break it down for you so simply and a bowl match up Sunday at 6:30 eastern on ESPN Saturday 7:30 eastern army has paean to integrate watch if you love the game sell always good to talk to my friend thanks out. There are. It was all sort of one big Jaya yellow molded very interest in where that line. Teddy it is a fascinating game you're giving us a straight talk brought to restrict or warrantless does phones those networks are contracts. Sunday night in Foxboro. Showtime homes Patrick Holmes in the chiefs. Role in the fox were a you're going Alex Smith. They upset the apple cart and the celebration of the championship banner and beat him and all that kind of stuff. And now they got my homes. Being in the on the defense you know how much of a test that is when. Coach Belichick breaks out different fronts and different defense is just to counteract what he's about to see rent I remember when. We were playing the Eagles when Andy Reid was there before the Super Bowl Super Bowl 39. And we came up in him an entirely different front. For the for the start for the majority of the game just so they had to do a little thinking take them out of their plan a little bit because. Bill knows that he is gonna see something. That you know that they they couldn't anticipate I mean last year. Watching that re watching that game vs the chiefs during an inverted wishbone in the backfield Kelsey played quarterback. Chelsea ran the ball as the quarterback the pitch up the middle of those type of things so. How do you drop things up in the dirt for practice to prepare against that well. You know what let's throw them off front or something they haven't seen yet so they have to do some sideline adjusting to and that's how we did back then and that's the same thinking that he's gonna have because. Now they have a young quarterback in my home so we'll kind of disguise his or fronts to show him to take out of take him out of his game a little bit. It's it's this is the this is the ultimate. Chess match in terms of what shall see within those first ten. Bill Belichick is 23 and organs quarterbacks under 25 years old pat roams as 23 of so he kind of fits into that mold. When you get into games and you were there since 2008 to you were there for plotting of these. When you get into games with a young quarterbacks. Is there even more emphasis on changing things up on defense are confused young quarterback. Absolutely especially I mean we had a young Peyton I mean even just making it's so silly that you sort of laugh which are doing because and then you did you just know that. What the thought process of it is of that young quarterback sort of Rolodex if you will isn't full yet like I've seen that before I've seen this would have seen that it's sort of is that coverage memories photographic coverage memory in terms of okay what's this one here we need is a linebacker lining up all the way on the outside of the defense of left side and dropping back to the hook to the right side something like that and sort of trying to get his attention protection. For the offensive line with things like that. Safety playing corner you know. Ty law and and Rodney Harrison switching positions various things like that you take it to the itch dream. Vs young quarterbacks because you know. You can fool. The guys that have seen it before you know they they think the calmly take it extend their snap count and they know you're eventually that would be there are young quarterbacks now. Social let let's let's dive into that little more priests that read by an offense what do defense want to show and that eventually depending on how. Good the defense isn't getting warrior supposed to do it be after the snap because at first second and a half for the quarterback of then reading the defense. Have you been able to see especially young quarterbacks junior on the field. Noticeably confused whether it's pre step or right after the snap like oh my god I don't know what the hell they're doing over there. Yeah just the faith. That you can tell on their face usually when they're doing just a little bit more thinking and in. As there in their audible process it stops. They sort of pause and then do the look around and then. So we get to the get to the offensive line reads right things like that that's when you know you've made their brain push the reset button. So yes you see that a bunch. I think Andy Reid counter acts that go with all of the formations that the defense defense has to adjust to it well. I can't adjust immediately. If by sea Travis Kelsey in the backfield or tight we kill might have been a certain place because I have to make adjustments myself. I was like OK I can't I can't get out of my comfort zone here because when the ball snapped I gotta make sure myself in the court and the coverage adjustment is made. Before I head of trying to show everything else so a stagnant offense you remember the colts those. It was Harrison on the left almost every single time and then the receivers were set so Payton wanted to see. And that fell into sort of the trap of defense has one to do whatever they wanted to do. The smoke and mirrors type of motion and shift. If more guys that went in motion a couple astronaut and a bit apparently but I was unbelievable I mean it's. I think that drop had a drop pass and appointed to confuse themselves only a little mean people boards on the left motion summoned to the right motion another person to the right most of somebody back coming the other way. I can't disguise. I can't I gotta make sure we're lined up right. Yeah so that's how he Connor access for his and so much that just window dressing to get you to think about stuff that really has nothing to do with the play. Yes and that's why Donta hightower saying out there to do your job tab in her Mike Reese though I say that that the patriots nation reporter about. Okay this is my responsibility on the left side. Don't get tricked out of vacating that side to pursued too early because something's come. Right got to anticipate something coming back so that's why it takes you on your game so. Are there. As well I'll try again. Tedy Bruschi hero of us in studio. But this game is kind of the future is it not because what we've seen in the papers the last few years with cattlemen hold on him and all. Getting all these crossing routes and people in space in the matchup she want it sort of what Kansas City is doing in a different way. This is the way the game isn't all. Absolutely sort of a wide open type of almost Saturday college football come and spread everything out you know get the defense to move and be deceptive. Offensively. Or spread them out and then. Take advantage of the space that you created by alignment various things like that if you have weapons like Kelsey and I gronkowski. That's a whole different set a set of circumstances that you can add on to but in terms of it shifts the motions the smaller receivers that can get open option routes things like that wide open type of offenses with the quarterback that can spread it around. That's what everybody wants now. So we're sort of quarterback came son and AdAware game tonight so that the NFL we six kicks off tonight we withdrew teams and horrible division. With the Eagles against the giants so before we begin on the field. And I'm sure you've done it all week but for us hear your thoughts of what's going on in that locker room and go to about the masters interview and I'm talking of the team and where that Wallace well. Mean oil Beckham junior is I think you just have to accept who he is I mean he's a he's a great player and and certain things are gonna have to deal with I think and I think Shermer understands that. Hum what I really what I really was fascinated by this week was the comments about sequent Barkley. I tremor and saying how he sat with them on the plane and trying to talk about to the media his genuine. Leadership in how he wants him to be a player. You know those conversations you have with the coach that are supposed to be sort of private wary that sit sit next to you or your young in your in the doormen. In in training camp or something like that and think they give good pare phrase it you keep doing what you do. You know that's sort of what sort of up. Validation of what should do what and who you are and who you're going to be as a leader we want you to be that guy and him sort of in estimating that about. Giving say Kwan sort of that nod. Mean that might have been the state. You know and sort of let that out that there are these other guys that are I mean even O'Dell Beckham junior you know Shepperd what he did on the sideline I think he might have seen or heard about shepherd on the sideline and game and said I gotta get seek one before this attack him right because of say Kwan gets this way Johnson and everything so let's take like considered to be accidentally. And to be clear students is certain shepherd Paul little dough on the kicking pace with a trash can the Karzai government Caroline's and give this. If how was the head coach of that team in a style that it's was shot yeah now ships doing this stuff. You were on the plane going home a sequence right here for a second that we talked to you in just tell you about. Keep doing what you're dealing replicate because it's it's what I want to see it's with the team needs deceit. You're gonna be driving this bus them. Right basically is it sort of Parcells as the wouldn't tell his young players you gonna be driving the bus so set the example set the tone. And there's my little endorsement right there but he gave that publicly in the media which was interest. Do you think that was a message sent to O'Dell as well of course it could have been decoded and also to the players that. Maybe faith that what people do about this you know what I mean in terms of aren't pets heads fall off you know I mean let's hear it militarism. We're now we're losing ship is getting crazy on the Sinai whenever there's a little bit of adversity mean who who we also looked to coach. Maybe he's telling those other team how much you guys looked sick on because this is the wits will be done. So let's walk Woolsey from the giants' side we know. Obviously we talked a lot about what's been going on on the field them. For them poorly are for Philadelphia mr. Super Bowl defending champs in and out of the gate not very good right off the bat what's going on without. I don't know what's wrong with their defense because. It was it was much better last year in my opinion I mean it's you have the most when you have one of those aggressive type of defense is I mean. If you play it's. Too aggressively you're trying to make too many plays there's certain things that offenses will will do do you that take you out of your aggressiveness or take advantage of it. Little bit of play action pass wide open receivers you got corners that are vulnerable to the double move I mean that's the book right now in the Philadelphia Eagles. Throw low play action pass on him double moved to the mills we can get chunk yardage plays. And right now that's been successful for teams. And I mean that's that's why it that's what they have to stop the pressure isn't there like it wise you know what we're talking about last year all of them and they've got. 567. Defense of Miami become an outlet passer but if you're aggressive and don't get that consistent pressure and you throw little missed direction you're gonna have. Says and we dissent Sal pal parlor talking about the offense veterans making the mistakes the cheap penalties are fortunate person fifteen and so the first and temperature by Janet Tucker are self inflicted wounds that you know by that this week come and of that locker room with this was new ski they took out there concepts and he went public about what in God's calling nowadays than that yeah you go public quit what does this new social media aero or NBA public well everything in my feelings generation you know that. Out my feeling now idea that would. And my Teddy a lot of people are talking about the potential Super Bowl. Hang over for the Eagles I hate that term is to me. It sounds like 'cause when you have a hang over it you messed up you did not prepare yourself and I don't think that's going on how real is the idea of knowing that it's just. Rica's you're the last team to do it. How hard it is having reached the pinnacle to regroup. Refocus and recommit at that next level cause you know every game is somebody else's super. Even to fail a couple times like we did after we won in going back to back and then being successful. And what I've learned from it is of course everyone knows you're gonna get two bit shy hard on your back holes which is boom all of that OK true it's understood understood. But what's not understood well I think the Philadelphia Eagles are going through is like. It's sort of you put pressure on yourself. When you when you lose one or two games. It becomes it becomes so big because you think to yourself. With a chance we should be beaten everybody right. But that's not the way it was the year before. And it's not the way it's going to be now you're still gonna go through times where you're gonna struggle as it happened all that entire championship season you struggled you have ups you have downs but now. You have this thing in your mind that you got it all figured out we are the champions of the world we should be dominating everybody that's the thing you got to understand hall. You can be dominating everybody is going to be just as hard as it was. And to hear the Eagles talk about past and that's not what championship teams do we got to start being a championship team again that. It's their mind you see like you might Wear the champs we should be pressured these people it's not going to be that way at all. So how did you guys and what did built specifically to get you guys through that. First we failed to act one and I'm not there a point I told guidance to a cup or I was worried that there were worried about where blue on blue you have to work ethic among other things like 88. Gotta do little bandage and it will guided tour if you're a that is no different look in order to do you do real ammo for that. You don't give it you know so we had to fail and so that's why it's so hard you fail and then it's hard to get back up so that's a big. Just got to go through this they've got to go through this that. Winning another game when your feeling this way you start to realize that you start to learn but it takes a while to put that behind you because especially. With us in a one. With Philadelphia last year I mean you remember just the feeling that region guy that had that that city that and I. You've made people's lives you know I didn't mean to go one story about dumb as a. I'm a girl came up to me and said my my grandfather wanna meet thank you because now he could die a happy man right because who won the first title it's like that type of overwhelming. Joy did you certainly saw that in Philadelphia. I have. And for the well I certainly desperate to get on from that it's hard. Another big game count we don't talk in the air sea about this Kansas City doing on match up you know is a winner possibly in that front runner for. A home field throughout the stuff forget Cincinnati. And then Cincinnati and Pittsburgh they play each other in Cincinnati this week's Cincinnati comeback to be Miami last year or weaken this Burgess smoke in Atlanta. Where do you see that game and are we giving Cincinnati as much love as they should deserve right now yet assert to recognize especially this offense of the Bengals. Of course and AJ green is what he is but. Weapon that this dangle offense were I think we're gonna start to see there's 21 GO gets back now to Chris he's so we get the two of them together had absolutely absolutely I mean they're they're able to put some points on the board also. Look that'll be interesting but. It's Tedy Bruschi is here with a us. Everyone's going to be watching this Kansas City patriots game for a variety of reasons but. You you and I talked about this in the halls were coming in here and hopefully it's exactly right you know if if kids are taken on too into it no one's ever done which is that quarterback young to take down Bill Belichick team. They will essentially have a four game lead. Offer race for home field advantage in the AFC and Bill Belichick doesn't wanna talk about this and obviously reporter tried to go there with a minute went about as well as you can expect. With the villages and plant capacity and advancing this kind of things that they're a little by canceling. This in what. Higher stakes game for the little girls playing Kansas. I always wonder why you are you going there with bill I don't the second important you know how this is gonna go. And that's the message he's sending to the media and that's the message is send the team but as a player you guys are aware what's at stake here right. Especially when your experience championship players I mean you have two players in that locker room that a win one super bowler to an gone deep in the playoffs on a regular basis and you realize. What's given you success in those playoffs. Who eventually get the Super Bowl goal achieved. And it has home field advantage and it has wherever it may be getting them into Gillette. You that you recognize that and realized that when you have those past experiences to go off off. You know so they start thinking about it right understand and you realize the hole you could be in. You lose this one are you just. Number two seed what do we have to do because of that the tiebreak head to head in the Kansas City you figure. Raiders they so that these games are looking a little bit you do. If you have that experience his players look ahead so it's in their mind in terms of they probably might be playing this team again. Bill does a great job of deflecting his best he can and the players don't talk about it either but it's on the mind. Another big game I think is a team and up and coming team that we're saying well look at look at these guys is Chicago. 41 critic could be five or or three and one could before and all correct had they won that first game that big lead against agree bay. Then the but the three era they won and they get apply. So to break sky get hit on him right now they go to Miami talk about that coming off by when you've been successful Accenture you guys have been many times when you were New England. Going into a bye where he hit the brakes and then after re load real. The most I mean I'm stopping momentum for a young team and on meg he's an inexperienced head coach but it was always in terms of how the coaching staff handled by a week and it's a little different now I mean they have they have to have the mandatory Akron four days consecutive could take you go off and that's hard so. On them in terms of various situation of things how he handles that. How bill that bears look okay against. The dolphins I think is going to be an aspect of okay. How did met Maggie handle the bye week with his team that's something to look for but of very similar to Kansas City. That's just what that office is to run three run only in the we use him in almost shifts in motions why I love. I mean. The bears and I have all year is it meg meg meg coming over and once they got Mac. NFL defense is now. Our offense is gonna move the ball opened on the field so you can I try to look at situation or defense is on third down red area rushing the quarterbacks in big and then and then who has the best finishers when you're close game in the fourth quarter the finishers and they have a lot of mama bear front so. This is a team that we like. This is a really interesting game for Chicago because you're young Miami team that thought they were good they got smacked around by the patriots and Eagles seventeen to nothing in Cincinnati the above 27 answered their back home. Pears coming off by. Like is it will look a lot about the Chicago team this week. I think I think. That case. Those mental just bombs that were dropped on his team the last couple weeks do you put everything in the B and three you know and then you're in the best situation in terms of going up to going and where three you know the school here and see if we can finally beat up Big Brother. And you get smacked around now my short game on let's let's bounced back. Let's bounce back and get this win vs Cincinnati if you were up seventeen and at the Everett was. Home another bomb mental toughness how a coach handles that to get is dated team out of a funk like this now we'll Seagates. It's really really hinging lot of great match of this weekend Teddy always good having this article thanks emergency and if alive let's. Anyway yeah. What's not expect too much there's only one person out there that is effective way too much part of this guy who really we know that is within his father. My name is Lauren I'm 33. I didn't want my identity to be the smoking mom. My first experience with jewel I do remember. Being like this is good it's it's it's like a cigarette at nine. I don't miss smoking at all like I can officially say it grosses me out. 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Good welder showed off against former giant Chris Canty just pretty much set as much on ESPN new York and you point and I I'm gonna shove I don't know about laughing stock you know not mean we are we have certainly seen other players speak up in the locker room and they did lose on a 63 yard field goal the way we had research looked at up. Their bully been four game winning field goals in the history of the NFL ten seconds are left. All of them. Have come against the giants. In less than a calendar year now account or your last year Philadelphia 61 yard field and 63 yards Sunday definitely just grab you know I do not I shot that I do not think their laughingstock. I it's not like they were. And it's not this year but the last couple years when clearly Cleveland was a laughing and I mean are now. But that was different this is just the giants go through some tough style and I can ominous shot that I don't I don't always. The Astros with a slight betting favorite male siesta lovers shutter I listen the Red Sox had a better regular season I get that Astros are the defending champs are no promise that I'll love that I have no primary the defending champs you know you're you're still haven't you moved on your. Swept Mayan Indians pretty easily there saw I don't have a problem of them being the betting favorite at all not I love that for a couple of reasons one. You gotta come get what they had and they have the starting pitching that will make it very difficult for anybody. And they have. A chip on their shoulder behind him in Europe and Alex Bragman when he was almost Sports Illustrated women with Scott van pelt. He said look does Tiger Woods teed off at 8 o'clock is Floyd Mayweather though early bird firewire we always on the undercard here. So of course it out of the primetime game because of because of the team their flight to the Boston Red Sox so yeah I'll I love that because I think they should be the favorite. And I think they're playing with a little chip on the shoulder that will help them in this. The bagels will win the AFC north love it or shove it. They won the division in 2013. And 2000 you know their foreign Warren Eagles who they host this week or 22 and one so. Used to do the math if the Pittsburgh wins where that's going to see our snotty I'm the Steelers on saarc. I think Cincinnati doesn't I'd love their offense you know blackened tied for the lead in sacks on defense getting pressure on the quarterback. Thought I love the citing the Bengals are gonna win the AFC north in Libya rebel I know is going to come back will be played for Pittsburgh lawyer and him getting treated right or not but I'll go the Bengals were in the north you know I feel like. Seeing what's happened recently with the Bengals. Should know better. But I think to go with a two out I liked the way they've done things. Getting that defense of core taking care of and you saw at the kid the lead after the second or third round Hubbard out of Ohio State make a big play out last week. And you know what they have offensively. I think I like the Bengals at this point I really do. I love it could by the way ya goal like window and Bubba reminding you. That we'll be live from liberty built tomorrow covering that Pitt Notre Dame matchup part of Israel radio's fall football for. Brought to you by. Ranger and you know the products and services you need a win you Needham graders got your back help keep your facility running Granger. The ones who get it done like Q and by the way again for Pitt Notre Dame who allowed Brian Kelly to our colleagues let's say I'm a little concerned here guys in Chicago up right nearby that course yes we are. Ice got a live on sat for lover shove I'm surprised Rangers not flying your way of enterprise and private jet ranger now that I'm with you Palmisano as texting is it just emailed me travel has all your details Lucy stands account shows that he's got you a limo ride to the airport without access I was classic Granger and then when you get there the liberty bill it. Europe airport a little way from both Russia own orbits of the going to be chopper there waiting for all right now let's go to our spirit personal thing right now we're located. The NFL's become glorified college football lovers of Tom Brady said kind of something like get a W I early in the week I shot that I don't. Thanks so parts of our and I think it's marked. For coaches instead of having these core and it's because of the quarterbacks coming into the league instead of saying okay forget everything you do in college you're now playing the NFL style I think it only makes sense to use. Their skills right as best you can work it in somehow it's not gonna become V way of the NFL what is gonna become a little more. Part of the NFL but as far as it's glorified college football I completely shocked that. Mike I can't believe I'm saying there's no I think I love that old guy you look at the best teams in football right now especially on the offensive side. It's what we see at a Kansas city's most you know we look for years by the way as is normally the case they're light years ahead of the stuff. When the Eagles when they had Carson whence they were doing a lot of the same makes a lot of different formations getting people out in space. Bill Parcells once said. We can only do bring into the NFL what the college game gives us which is why we see a lot of problems of offensive lineman right I do a desolate style because of the way they play. In college I think this is the waiting game is going and more importantly I think this is the way the NFL wants it to ago. And that's why we seen some of these rule changes and the numbers have been responsible. And responded that ratings are up people are interested I think this is the way it's going how of that. Alabama needs to play in a close game before college football playoff love it or shove won every game by 22 points or more this year and two has not attempted a pass in the fourth quarter I shot of that. It's basically this is about to write yup me the first year starter in awarded. When you first come into the scene well I mean he plays on I guess but there's a big moment halftime have they are down and out legitimate national championship game. What forty watt and I think he produced pretty well there you sort of think that he needs to play in a tight game. Kind of offered them little backside of a tied game I'm gonna show that although it is a different defense and in my biggest goal off against a defense a little bit but it just be able understand they haven't punted in two weeks though they have they have not. Opted to pondered how I've not needed department nearly all of five star other positions you are five star partner or Alabama known not to appoint a lot if you Nick Saban you do not as it money do you show that don't do a lot. Win a ring and then may be attracted. But you don't to a lot you can ensure your way just laughed we knew just enough to get out there and get a job well. Mom yeah I I showed that as well I'd I'd I think Alabama needs to just be Alabama that's been good enough for a long time. 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