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I know why we saw what we saw last night the Thursday night game with a Steelers just absolutely obliterated the Carol really yeah I think you know yet what's it's pretty easy did I sell auto race course 52. 52. To 21 institute's one when the portable fifty burger Carolina brandishing that was I was pretty good. They clearly were very upset the Steelers were about being. He and five B in my power right your power rankings yesterday you had your top 55 L. Was 55 was the chargers why we're the chargers five A was Caroline's Friday it was. Pretty far. Feel like he was the Steelers are there. There are not gonna overtaken Carolina Panthers an X rating. Is strong but brought a possibility were you all are mostly short Mellon haven't so again. Let me just say Steelers. I apologize. In steeler fans. Your one has clearly that was the motivational force they need to Mike to go out there and it's a parallel first and foremost what you're at the end that open is so true you play this game long enough and this. Bleep happens to decide what happens it happens. Or you and it happens against you it's one of those where you're not you know for Carolina they're not gonna sit in meetings today and everybody's not gonna get ripped are probably you know probably get a while they they get some extra time off Bob is a Thursday game. Villagers move on from this one because. It happened and you know and you know how quickly. This is how quickly it can happen our mission Carolina. Took a first drive nine plays 75 yards and scored. In Pittsburgh I mean they went down the field and score ever and it was a fantastic drive so the steeler crowd just settling in your seats. Four minutes and 31 seconds later down seven nothing you don't OK we've heard about this Carolina team camps playing great now blah blah blah. Pittsburgh at DePaul ball one play did you use rich user 75 yard touchdown okay tied up. Carolina gets the ball back they are holding penalty on the return they get backed up. Cam Newton is always gonna try to make something happen first play he's in the end zone getting tackled and he's just trying to make something happen makes it very bad mistake throws the ball up in the middle of the field. Where Vince Williams. Picks it up seventeen yards. It's it's a obviously. Oh after 77 now it's 147 Pittsburgh at Carolina goes three and out agenda. Forget the ball and goes on an eight play drive and they score again and fathered out seven zip and a few minutes later all of a sudden it's 217 let the route to. Yeah yeah I don't continuation of exactly and just so people understand starting with the timing of McCaffrey's play to Judy's play in the events. Bit Brian Williams play and those three touchdowns in 232 232. To spend the first quarter that is the quickest three touchdowns and have been scored in the Super Bowl era according to the Elias Sports Bureau our friends over there so. Don't they like all yet this happens all the time. No I don't know what does not you know Ben had one of those games just three in completions 2225. And five touchdowns to five. Different receivers again. This. Happens every now and then it happens and this is what went on last night you just as as you'll hear this is the Steelers admit. We're not that good yet. And care for Carolina they're not that bad no they're not so this is one game that just gets away from the big stages ran into a buzz saw again Ben was 22 a 25 for 320 yards five touchdowns as you said defied the receivers. But it is living in the drives me nuts okay. Yeah a perfect passer rating of one point three. I don't understand. How you how you can have a perfect passer rating if you haven't completions is. What's a perfect game baseball 27 up. 27 don't know nobody reads I'm not saying eat and play great don't get me wrong we're we're parsing are delusional nonsense here but that's why I'll of the QB our metric is better as the scale of one to 100. But we came up with and his QB Joseph was 97 point eight. Which is maliciously dissidents like it's not perfect trip you know and that and that at the end of the day this is. We had to pick out for the game but but a couple things in the game James Connor. Is a concussion protocol so we have to see how long that old yet thirteen carries last night for 6165. Yards. Did have a catch in the game as well all the talk now general start. There's like damn dog British dog next Tuesday won't get into that will he's in the concussion protocol and the one controversial thing that went on in the game was Eric Reed. Was thrown out of the game. For a long run by Benny escaped out of the pocket ran and he said he was getting converged on and he slid feet first. And Eric Reed it's one of those bang bang plays came in and and drovers got his shoulder into Ben's head and snapped Ben's head back. And he ended up getting thrown out of the game the way he went head and you could he went down into Ben Leo and let me tell the greatest thing about that mended the cavalry come around and what you're that if you never saw offered to offensive linemen don't run that fast on their play whether there pulling -- something. To get down there and defend their guy Roethlisberger and you'll love to see that and Eric Reed. Apologize to Ben for he said I'm just making a play. The illicit he just signed a couple of weeks ago he said he didn't even know there was a Rory you get rejected for that. And but. In in today's game they're going to do that I personally would like to see I I and if you're going to reject somebody I don't I don't love the rule in college but the one thing I do. At least. At least like you because it's in the rule that if you're going to reject somebody you have to refuel it left actually see it on film. To make sure it's an ejection yes and sometimes I still think the rest in college get it wrong but but at least they have the chance to overturn it. In the pro I think that is while you're going to throw because it's a day pretty good is that a fit of seeing it in slow motion right but rush are making the call and a split second. If you're not I'm not into re playing everything but. The rest get together and say we're going to throw a guy out for this I think at that point they should be able to go ordered turf builder there look at review and see is this worthy of throwing a guy out. Yes so the Steelers just destroying the Panthers is what everybody's talking about it's brought to by Capital One. Capital One has re emerging banking offering accounts with no fees or minimums are can be opened at five minutes Capital One what's in your wallet Capital One and Aso as you said. There's a lot to the Parse through this out and let's start with just the idea of this big able bought the last time the Panthers. Gave up 52 points in the game or fifty points a game was in 2000 when the Oakland Raiders did. Imagine the Oakland raiders of today trying to put a 52 points hallmark that's not happened we take for him yes and it did fifty on the season and I quite York. So that's a long know this has been. And broader set of best and you're right Mike you do this long up. Every once in awhile we see you the bear gets you where you get the bear tick the bear or the Steelers in this case just got Ron Rivera Panthers last night. Lamented that they guys in the happens animal put it just like that. OK let's just be honest about that happens but this is my thirtieth year in the NFL I've seen gains like this I've been part of games like this on both sides and at the end of the day you continue to dwell on it worry about it it's gonna -- yeah maybe get over it and you start preparing for your next team focused on Nixon give yourself a chance to get ready to win the next day and also we're gonna do I mean there's no magic pill are told that to the players in there in the locker room at the end of the day get this one out of your system and move forward we as coaches we've got to go to work figure out what happened get those things corrected and start preparing for the next to him and that's only thing we can do. You know I'm might have gone and beat them down they're being down already. You know Pittsburg is a very good football team that came under a great job against us we made too many mistakes expect to beat a good football today so will correct those at the end of the day we'll cut. And that of course that next game is going to be at Detroit after the mini bye but I do love what he said there might look. I'm not gonna yell what do what do you mean do do it to try and beat these guys down they feel like crap all UPS you're off during the game you're being yourself for what's going on camp we'll work all week got a game plan and get ready to play in these are two really good teams. And it starts to unravel like that your your beat yourself up during the game he's absolutely right and this isn't a this is a 18 team either. Oaks and three team that right now I have game better than you know league game civil planned Sunday. But Burr in the wild car right now you know they're they're the leading team in a while cart. Army missile team with a lot to play for right they know they're better than this just as Mike Tomlin to about the Steelers were not as good as this you're on a play that guy doubting us the best part my tumbles. Like yeah I don't get used to this basically men really medical former us covers is a very good Seymour a short week source allowed to be proud of bubble we're probably not that good you know become. Did you gain like that sometimes the ball gets rolling downhill we're appreciative of it was great atmosphere tonight. Man. Will will enjoy this this long week in and figure roll our sleeves and fight again. And just like. Just like Iran Rivera said we're we're gonna do a lot with this now this is a dealer no merit and are they know this is one that just rolled up four of them in their favor you to go on big begin another and to this is what is basically move on from this game. The George for them as they get ten days before the next game and is coming off a monster went for Carolina you gotta sit with this game. Yeah knowing in your days often just let that marinate you know until you get back to work. Does that to Richard you know you're gonna love this time off don't get me wrong but you're gonna want who won who get that taste Saudi Amal. You don't have to be the next game against Detroit to try and do that cell. Matt I bet that's all I did you reconsider their break this game down I mean you can look at a I'm the one thing about this you gotta think of a new name because it was a killer bees right yes round then and bell right that word viewed MR Davis Brian what more do you well I trillion dollar knowledge James Connor I mean you look at what they're doing most consecutive team games with teammates scoring a touchdown. The records Michael Irvin and Emmitt Smith back in 956 straight games in the both of them scored at least one touchdown editorial brown and James Carter. Yeah are next with five or tied with a couple other. Our team they're Tiger Woods duels like LeRoy Kelly and whole war feel now back in 1968. For the browns back in 1960. The crowd. Get ready again Jim brown and Bobby Mitchell the browns both scored at least a touchdown and five straight game. You'll be go big and retain editorial running late beyond those Antonio brown and James Carter. Is one away from time Michael Irvin and Emmitt Smith cell that's been our real but but that's been a constant. Obviously you know but this one game as I said you know James Connors and the protocols to keep an eye and that and members of the call of Eric Reed getting tossed from this game. For his. Is a shoulder to helmet hit on Ben Roethlisberger a few first line yeah and now by the way the Steelers next go to Jacksonville they have every right to be very far but Jacksonville having lost to them two times last year regular season and of course. The divisional playoff round what they were already looking ahead to the rematch in the AFC championship game. With the patriots and then there's the issue of Ben Roethlisberger getting yet again as we said it was a bang bang play. And then as you had the best part about it the cavalry did come running while faster than the offensive lineman ever moves here's it's Stanford product David Castro on Freddie Fitzsimmons talking about they'll listen. Well when though when the sheriff goes down the troops respond. Who goes got better over towards you wanna be doing now both. Good to meet someone that that don't let it be in good New York the choice you don't see speculate that I have been here on our other arts. I knew that so I don't know what are you see Bill Simon. And our guys does does it. You know why don't you find it give a consumer I'm a lot of notes. You know does nothing but a personal portable game hard and Gil de. Like go out wouldn't go you know. Didn't he want dollar up politic the whole line went down there it is and he's right you don't go down parents are swing and that's just ridiculous to get tossed a refiner dot. It's not the right to do but as you said you're and other guarantees your mind trying to get a face mask a little bit tried Jack guy's head back a topology data got under the face mask though the Kimmel face wash. No I do do that kind of thing just just returned just enough to have to not get a flag. But but yet as they're reach that he did he give you know you get rejected. This year for that and listen these hits happens all the time all the time. And the league is now saying we're making them each project able is all that's why Eric Reed and and going by the letter of their law what they elect the rule or not. Of enforcing this. They they did the right thing by injecting them yet if you watched the replay it doesn't look like reed I don't think actually even hit a more immediate just a glancing blow to the head neck area got a with a shoulder and into the end of that yet here's Ron Rivera after the game about that play. I don't think that was warranted. I really don't I don't think he hit them hard enough to it to reject them you know guilty we we we we are trying to protect you quarterbacks and you know it's again if you hit them as good stresses he was going you know but again that's for trying to protect you quarterbacks and you know he was hot. Kate plus and again you're on and then you saw Ben's reaction as well so let me to believe he didn't hit them as hard as I like I think they thought he did it. But that's the point that he made right how hard you hit the guy is not. The measuring stick for the penalty it's are you attempting to go at his head and neck area as a because once the quarterback starts his dive. He has given up the play is over and I understand. In a bad bank situations very difficult. But you could tell by watching that even and in regular speed might. Banded already begun his sly would air greed Kaman yeah. He did and a lot of the reporting on the Vietnam. Or the quarterbacks as well. I'm Melissa because there was a play like sharp forgot who was work. Where the quarterback started sliding lady and he took a shot and the wrested control flag right because they're saying listen you're giving yourself up too late. But it is hard to tell. In full speed remember were what were showing you these plays junior scene and you get to see them in slow motion and you see the shoulder. Had caught the side of Ben's helmet and a lot of times what you would city. Is whether you would see a flag or not a lot of the times depended on the quarterback right. I and the reaction now bent pretty much came jump right up ya a lot of times exploiting chatter yet to face stayed dollar and that's a lot of times and a flag comes more knowledge you can fly get many jacked. A lot of times when the quarterback just jumped back up they want reject because. They didn't think anybody got hurt and I got to Ron Rivera is point out he didn't hit that hard when in actuality. It doesn't matter no as far as her again what you like the role or not. It's not about how hard you hit the guy and had put a lot of times we see things judged by. The impact of the hit good guys stayed down involves Lindsay down holding his head as you woozy so you wanna you wanna impart more punishment. I'm the person that did that hit when in actuality it's just about the hit itself did you go to the head neck area. Right now here's the bigger question may be coming out of this game because of Pittsburg Steelers finally look like the team. That we thought they might be when the season began right they're defense I think they sacked him five times. They put pressure on him all I'd Mon all night it was relentless so here's the real question because if you're a Steelers fan. You've seen this before you seem prolific offense from the Steelers you've seen them go opened on the field you've seen them have games where they get after the quarterback. Do you believe when push comes to shove the Steelers team right now. Is good enough to either going to Kansas City. And beat the chiefs. Or going to new England and beat the patriots because that that going into Foxboro has been the biggest boggle or just beating the patriots. If you're the Steelers may have been the thing that has been over UN prevented you from being where you thought you could be as the French well let let's look at. The things that can get you to win in those game. What what do you need to do against Kansas City school yet Joseph scorpio and they can score and may be with this new archery all of us Scott said I said the killer bees. It was bell oh Brenda brown and he said and I just said they need a new name how about the killer ABC's. Antonio Ben and Connor. Nicely done well done Scotland well the problem and I'll I'll clever cause it your did someone give club a coughing and believes a little ablaze a little shorter Dole's political every so often don't okay. So for Kansas City you've got it yet to be able to out score Russia electability in a shootout. This bird thumbs up thumbs down on that on top right they score. Yeah Connors been running well you obviously had the passing a bad and Antonio Brown. Bantered Donald are running over everybody you know and Jesse James gets into 22 with a tight end score touch on just like I think they can score with Kansas City. And then did beat New England. What's a one year what when they didn't win a Super Bowl or or when they do struggle. How do you do that you're not calm down yeah that. You're talking about Hayward you're talking about tour you're talking about watch talk about the rushers not talking about you know a lot of blitzes bring in five bringing six all the time you're talking about to all four upfront guys. Getting pressure if you can do that the Tom Brady could beat New England so they had the components. I think to be able to do. I think they've had the components for years they just never know able to get over the idea of beating the patriots yesterday that he does a good guy that's very important to ask before oh there's a very are employed on you on your in your point I think what the pressure which is really abusing Mike and imagine this a broadcast last night. The you know they used to have TJ watt on the right side and but debris analysts out. And apparently he's you want as much more comfortable rushing from the left right and but debris is much more powerful Russian. And it showed us tonight. I mean it was amazing how many times they got in there by just flipping ends on the as I said interior rusher Hayward and interior rush through two yeah two big strong guys and records and bring it up especially tourism is a monster in their cell. Yeah that they have the ability I think to door again I'm not basing it off the game last night were based you have to off the culmination of a number of games at that defense is really started to pick it up. The defense has done a much better job but again I promise Steelers fan I'm I'm I'm I'm sort of hesitant this was great. And we did well and this was a really good team there's a couple of teams out there are now actually outside of argue week to win this to Steele was lost at home. To the chiefs they'd pretty much own the chiefs last for years but they have not been able to get around the force in the AFC and that has been. The little omission that's real quick and maybe I'm really asking us you offenses charged during nice job right during a really nice job. But if you're going to be but the New England Patriots Richard struggled to do you like all the weaponry you can have right correct. Maybe embellish or next week. Well the Steelers fan do you want lately I'm bell to show what next week and be an added to that add to this arsenal. Especially with the idea that Connors now on the concussion protocol which makes us. A lot more interest in. Goal with good windows. Great way Bjorn and Michael senior. We're delight to be joined as we are every week by. Our NFL insider Louis Rick former NFL safety is what are handle at L Ricky ESPN. I was real quickly. Both both the coaches in the game last night was I was really using Ron Rivera and Mike Tomlin based was that this game is a one off it's an aberration. I believe. Ron said bleep happens and Tomlinson were probably not that good but that being said how good do you think the Steelers are after five straight wins now. I think some of the things that you're seeing. Are things are gonna carry through for the rest of the season quite honestly trailer looked good with is this the very strong up front on the offensive line they have a very good core players there. That are really comfortable in their scheme as far as the run game in the past and they sort of less than they dominated the line of scrimmage. They have a phenomenal phenomenal running back situation right now and I'm talking about the situation without Libya and other James Connor. But I said last night on tourist cities and he's a hero he just did is because the way we can loses life what he's overcome it how he plays the game. And how he likens pars or one also football team to play the game with them. So they've got that going on the passing game looks legit what they couldn't make it hits you with so many different personnel groupings. In attacked view the width of the field and the length of the field and that's that's something that's just not that that's an aberration they can do that now and on the deep inside a football. You saw last night Bates Droid Carolina Panthers solvents like Kim had no shot. He had no shot is too good back there gets set up in trying to mount a comeback. Because they have some people now up front on that the but the wind that are actually hit their stride to the secondary looks better luck or say that they have solved all the problems in the secondary I still think that's the Achilles heel this football team. But I think a lot of the things you saw last night will transfer for the rest of the season provided that they stay healthy and now. That all that being said. I will say this look I hate the principle for a now on the NFL I think it's about as bad as it's ever been from a fundamental standpoint. In apparent this kind of solidified a lot of that last that I notes a short week and you're traveling you have one less day of preparation than the home team. But some of the things they were doing defensively and some of the fundamental mistakes that they were making. It's this no no wonder offensive by explosions are taking place all over the league week after week after week is about as bad as it looks put dom. I don't think that's indicative of how apparent as the play the rest of the year. But I think the Steelers are legit and they're gonna be there in the very end there in the AFC. So all along those live report move on to some of the other teams PolyGram bell has so next Tuesday to report or can't play this year. They do you think he will report and if he does. Why would he. Some great questions and you know what I'll tell you what I don't know when I look at people who know him the best really noses and his teammates in the in the locker room. And outside of his family they don't know what these sort of reports like getting only say if he's going to and considering that really at this point I mean there's really no. Real advantage to him gone ahead and reporting and I'm sure like the Steelers that they really you don't. Report on a lie detector test and then when they're arrested told the truth what they've really one of the report I've that there would say you don't want. Maybe not. Then let him get free agency makes a record of France doesn't get bracket franchise and a quarter wrecked number in 2019. When to let him hit the market and quite honestly right now. Chemistry is something that we can just never really predict how it's going to turn out for our football team. And we kind of hit the jackpot as far as the chemistry on this team right now with out him I know he's a good player he's a great player. He's one of the most versatile backs we've seen come through this legal long long time. But there are a lot of times were there is addition by subtraction that is a real phenomenon it's happened when does football team right now. So I think distillers you know. Really wouldn't we if you really were gonna make them make a decision to make to make a declaration I'm sure they were apply leaving them to the side of we don't really want care he does come back and quite honestly made we don't want him back but I'm I'm not speaking for them that's the Paula how I would be feeling though at this point. Right as Louis break our front office and started with a slows that's a that's one side of the equation in the Libyan rebel situation for the Steelers and this season. But let's be honest this whole thing from Levy announced perspective has always been about next season and making short or he's in the best possible that position. To maximize his dollars in free agency so to me forget what he what it may or may not bring to the Steelers. This year up Levy on if he comes back. If he's willing to sacrifice by about nine million to make sure he's helping to get 3738. Million why the hell what he. What are get picked five million to put all that in jeopardy at this point. That that's there. You want to makes perfect sense straightened quite honestly look. But what I tell you what I've seen some really funny tweets and since some guys makes real funny come as a big Ryan Clark was on sort of last night saying. He is no he can't imagine having those conversations with his wife. About how I'm gonna turn down 866900000. Dollars a week period for any reason for any reason at all I don't care what you're trying to set up for the future. But hey he's been willing to go all the way with this I think. Are there are some people who thought maybe he would blink a lot sooner than this and that he was really just talking impostor trying to get to those the move put number that he was more comfortable within that would. You go to him and signify exactly what his. Werth wasn't the National Football League in the and they haven't blinked and neither is he so I mean right now. I'd I think he will maybe go all the way with I'm I'm inclined to believe that this is going to be one of those is the situation where you don't see him this year and he kind of does what he says what is on trying to preserve my long term future he didn't really care about mr. Donald fourteen million dollars this year. It feels as though that's is that really wasn't the point the point was he's trying to. You know he's he's making this decision based on principle he's trying to look up for people who gonna come after him at his position whether it's the same kind of skills that he does. So I mean look. That's that's that's a stance I don't know how many people would take but obviously he's made he's wanted to take it we'll see how plays out. You know my wife what eleven missed the first offseason work out little competitive again doctor Louis Riddick RE SP NN FL. Front office inside are also played safety for number of years. In the NFL as well. Georgia the saints and make the move for Dez bright here's the team go to go to they'd be the management side of this. Louis. Day Higgins junior went on I. They've had this issue for a little while Marc Cooper gets straight to the cowboys to merge Thomas gets traded the Texans. And Al Golden tickets traded did Eagles. Should nor have gone that route and traded for one of those type wide receivers instead of picking up a I Dez Bryant or do you like this move. I mean you could see where. Maybe. They could've gone they could have been a little bit more proactive as far as addressing their depth. But I that they are tremendously resourceful football team as far as how they use their personnel and how versatile their personal are. You know let a guy like Ben Watson at tight end who they pretty much use like a wide receiver. It had him doing some things that not a lot of tight ends can do because of how merciful Venice now obviously as a move now on the stretcher with Kim Meredith envoy on my car. There they're perilously thin at wide receiver and you can see why they made this move now. I think you. I know watching their tape the you know I think I may be have a a decent idea about how they're going to use Dez. And it would be very similar to maybe how they used Ben Watson instead of go with ball personal too wide receivers two tight ends in a back field goal little bit more maybe eleven personnel now. And have Dez do some the things that they had Ben Watson don't. And that's really trying to take advantage of the middle appealed to take advantage of matchup I'd I'd. You can kind of to get a good feel for how source gonna try and get today isn't very optimal situation here where. His size is is a colony. His speed is something that will be able to use the use to his advantage against linebackers and safeties I don't know how much they'll use him on the outside like a Ted did. A you know was also known for because it's not really his game but haven Mike Thomas together. That's a heck of a combination that I set at all long you don't settle this so many different times the middle of the field is there to be taken in the NFL by offenses because you just can't defend it the way you used to. Just from a defense perspective and quite honestly most teams don't try to anymore which is. Really depressing for me to watch. But I I think you're gonna see him in Mike Thomas that look that could be a very very good combination of players given what they like to try and do offensively. I'm anxious to see him get started. And at the end of the day Dez is going to be up against your third best defender at this point and that's observed that you would you like dad I don't know what you're Sean Payton in the saints that things you can dial up. Lewis rig is with us credible for office insider a Lewis then there was the odd situation where giants head coach pat Shermer. Had to call in Ely during a bye we can't say hey. Your still the starter this essentially tells us that eventually he's got to have a conversation where is gonna say hey you're not this. Carter right yeah yeah I think that's coming and I mean there's no question I think that's come and they they cannot go through 2018. The same way they went through 2017. And not know. But as far as the other quarterbacks on the roster what exactly they happened I've said this before Kyle allege that has the place they have to figure out what they haven't in the of the figure out of these just the back up if he's a journeyman if he's someone could maybe be a blood a part time starter or if he can be a full time starter and that's not. Polio the question I think what is delayed this process obviously is Jim that Kyle found themselves thin with the incident here in New York City. But I think that's eventually going to come it'll probably come when the the giants are mathematically eliminated and then they don't have anything to worry about from that perspective as far as then pushed back although I don't really think they're gonna do is gonna be any push back. When they decide to city life down the fans aren't dumb the team isn't dumb they know that this is it they know what's the end they know that he is at the end. Of his career with this football team. And really. From a foreign office perspective and a coaching staff perspective and an ownership perspective you owe it to the organization first it's everyone else to go ahead it's our planning for 2019. In the end pats really just set the table right now with Eli your starter now. You disorder now until we get everybody on the same page and figure out what is the optimal time to go ahead and start looking at other players at that position in particular they've already put everyone else on notice if you say this are putting out there and it becomes common knowledge that even a guy like Landon Collins is may be up for trade. Landon Collins. When in Collins one of your pillar players on your football team at a very critical position you're letting it be known that he's available to be had. Didn't look well then why would live why right now would you sit there and kind of like grind your gears about whether or not what's the right time again city life down. I understand you dessert he deserves a lot of respect and he has gained a lot of respect and earned a lot of respect. But this is also a business that is a replacement business and it's gonna be time to replace him to it happens everybody so they need me to figure out when that's gonna happen. Well those little let me follow with you on that real quickly because when this went down last year obviously get put in geno Smith it was a disaster the streak ended and the backlash was immense. Do we believe that that happened in a vacuum would spend MacKey to last you did GM had to sign off on that probably ownership had to sign off on that right. Well sure but it that they didn't really they didn't handle it very well very clumsy trading you don't you know that it wasn't quite honestly at the time look. When a GM has had as many missteps is Jerry Reese had when the head coach has no cash say it really is losing the locker room doesn't have respect of the locker room. The fan base in quite honestly I'm sure ownership at that point had known that they were gonna make it change hadn't in the 2018. It's just doesn't it. It's it's never really gonna go right the way you should there's always gonna be people were gonna second guess what you're doing there and then on top of the when you have to be as clumsy as it was and make it seem like people were really. That they really didn't think it through its as the bad bad situation I think right now considering there's a new general manager and big government there's a new paid coach in pat firmer. And they're trying to establish their program. I just I don't think it's the same situation this year I think this is something that could be done. Very very objectively and be done quite honestly with not as much emotion in and looked directs them basis it they've had enough. I don't think right now anybody sitting there going all knowledge Eli needs to stay in their now you need to let him play out the year. I don't think anybody saying that at all least I haven't heard that and I think right now everybody won't give the front office the benefit of the doubt because it's new. But I'll tell you this. With many of the missteps that were made with the front office this year as far as how they evaluate their football team. And how they thought maybe they could put some pieces around me like get the right pieces and make a run this year with how bad that is gone almost say this. May be the benefit of the doubt that they're being given also is not as much as number than maybe you would have thought so. They need to make sure that 2019 is that there is a home run year as far as how the players that they bring in in the success ultimately they have on the field. Louis about a minute left or stay in the same city quarterback or out in new York and the quarterback of the future on the roster for the jets and Sam Arnold in a boot. Walking boot not playing this week leads the league in interceptions once he's healthy the C immediately go back on the field. I would assume he does Amir unless they feel as though they're put him in a situation it's it's gonna adversely affect them for the feature which. You don't KB the debt situation does because it's just it's it's not a good offensive line it doesn't they don't have very good weaponry on the perimeter. And he's not set up for success this year and I mean look there's benefits to him playing because he's gaining experience he's inexperience and a system that. You hope was a system he's gonna play that play in 2019. Although we don't they continue to lose football games who knows what's gonna happen with that entire coaching staff. But it it's one of those world they've made the commitment they made the decision again play him this year they've made the decision didn't think the experience here in his rookie year so he's healthy. And you're really not put them in harm's way you're not really adversely affecting his development and put him in there but look at the debt situation insist. It's one where it's going downhill is gone downhill fast and dobbs they need to stop the bleeding there somehow someway because there's still quite of the season left the play. If there is but as we like to say is get late early is gonna tell ya ya sister in the NFL right Susan hey we appreciate it man always good to talk to you thanks Louis. He got a guys are able to take a we'll week off from your Ferrari well because he still release. How am I don't worry it's coming back. You know I you know I double talk about it at the drop of the hat listen men what are Jr. Darryl hall of fame drain we're joined Greg guy I don't. Do you know I I took a look at how I see him right now glad Melissa and Mike you know Mike you already know man all you know you saw this morning admitting yeah you don't you feel I said next time I have and he had personnel reviews apologized. With my brother has budgeted this guy's been a I got a clear. I tell you what a great sports night last night no doubt about it and lingo what are Dey wanna show what kind. I. Yes my name is Lauren I'm 33. I didn't want my identity to be the smoking mom. My first experience with jewel I do remember. Being like this is good it's it's it's like a cigarette at nine. I don't miss smoking at all like I can officially say it grosses me out. 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Or Edgar there can't bring starting quarterback in his first part played out there though it certainly. What what again that was army wait force again out the last minute drive right there were down 23 to warning in the end up. Taken that one North Carolina State we're I was just talking up the ACC. You know heaven for teams in the top 45 obviously clumsily to and everybody on the same. Same division North Carolina State. Boston College as well and Syracuse. And a North Carolina State you know I guess you'd say lay a nag I mean they were definitely heavily favored in that game but kudos to Wake Forest. It would be great and they're kind of let it go out there wrap up back yet I am tired. It really look adequate until the end of the so that I got back my adult lap at 1130. It was Obama yet and you're yet the crowd there and I just what. I don't put it yet I got the didn't like it. And let it ought to. So were you surprised by the outcome when he saw that I got I'm. I think we ought to correct surprise effect this one of the it was appropriate if you have a quarterback. That they order. Here are well let let. That they want a black guy and they started two freshmen in the next guy quit. It looked like there was over an opinion you that I did you know I don't know it but what I look like. I'll wait or got it. So all you do look at you mentioned college football a big weekend we we've kind of looked at the top four teams. Matt in in the rankings and what is our toughest game left and and everybody believes for Clemson. It is going to be this game in Chestnut Hill against Boston College Boston College two losses this year wonder Purdue how about Purdue Boston College smoked Ohio State. And the other loss to the team that lost last night. North Carolina State so. Are huge game Boston College loses last year cons and I think it was like 34 to seven idea how do you see their chances in this wall that defense. Well the code name actually. Doubled for order I believe that cut it too much too big you are all. You know up front Eli is okay but I really don't talk about ought. We get out or you are in college and they don't come up until Matt. All that much but when they got a huge deal. You talk about extra art opera or iron or eight. We look at seemingly look like that border where. Are you go out Erica. Carter but I'll look at are you act you act and it was their arrival. There weren't about their but not yet ought not by us. That was our by. A reporter. Now that you ought cart itself or its contract. And I think I'll have a great big Mike got sort of the fact it is going to be out there and these other guys at college and days there late and rock. Well listen Matt Hasselbeck witnesses were important what will be uninteresting game Saturday it's just not knows Clinton comes in so make the case I mean make make the case how. How this 'cause right now we did the math. Or people smarter than Mike and I did the math. And they gave the cut the top four teams in the college football playoffs right now all the and 9% chance and everybody's gonna run the tables so the odds are that somebody's gonna stumble. What do you think is the best way to Boston College can force Clinton to be one of those ones that's stumble Saturday. You get. That score if you offer up a little on the ball. Well again at about the dog you know what he's done it off. Eight Boston College O line and draft in your party have. He's addicted to AJ Dillon a local crop. It in Michigan and you know what I wanna be one of running back and I want to be dumb man. At fox are. Equity on. I don't true that it last year assured that the content with an ankle injury. Complete Ingrid EU would enable oracle were different and why I feel I think. Aren't important O line who AJ villain. Don't earn them all are a great art great third in the boats and cut airliner. Now an absolutely looking forward to that again medal line playing extremely well until Enron awhile to team that any twenty cent 23 in the country in rushing 225. Yards a game a great test. Are you for that clemson's defense of line look reported that Chestnut Hill over on the. Like I can remember Colin yell loud public outcry. It would or go out and yeah a little bit recruit 10 o'clock mark Arnold about. That's all the talk got the call that I went. Barkley or they'll cold or or one on other large. On the road. And all the exactly. Each can't order albeit a colder name that you ever played in an adult probably a little bit a bit out of Miami this year. Does Biden look like. A pair with that cold weather out of all agree are good but I think the real thing that are not let me. Elect. Over him matter I I said that when my boys are Notre Dame they played the Sun Bowl in El Paso against the U. And it was thirty degrees and snowing muted they had all their winter gear out Notre Dame jumped on him early and it was over Florida State coming to Notre Dame this weekend it's most to be high twenties low thirties in May be some snow. I absolutely believe there something to it if you jump on the team quickly. That that's that's the difference here climbs and I don't know of Boston college's at came back and jump on them quickly. And make them if I don't think Clinton's folded our tent but to your point. I'm with you I do think the cold weather could have an effect especially if you're not used to it and haven't played through it's all I actually get your point there. A Matt Hasselbeck joining us let's go over to the NFL the game last night. 5221. In favor of the Steelers I mean what do you say about a game like that. Or you secular get out of the right time to talk about the patriot. Saint. Dealer Urquhart pre. Started out well now there are fire at the regular they have their Al. A little bit of drama out got the locker. And it caught the and that. Why are the art or late on 08. Electric. I'm sure there are great and we are great off a great predictor a lot of crew that you either way it they celebrate what congress ordered back out like eight at that record out. At the cut shot down at the opera why you don't recruit that. Or touchdown. By the way they celebrate what we're you know they don't look like you're back are out we keep that. Albert like our checks go out. There are eight coal cars that are oh. What they're all about life and number or I'll hit it really does not. I think if they get hot like aren't there are no actors AF. Playoffs this number I'm gonna be just I think religion that it. It will be but they're scheduled match down the stretch is brutal they got to be Jacksonville tried it was a good new twice last year than they got to play the chargers in a second by against the raiders and they get the patriots the saints in the Bengals to finish of the season I mean that is a tough finishing stretch so it's great now. But the Steelers better rack up the wins when they can't because they've got some tough. Games coming Matt we appreciated rough on this weekend. Anytime. It was all sort of one big Jaya jello mold very interest in where that line. Our goal doing go glad you whether this is data radio is in his present ever present insurance awful just join us on the shell Pennzoil performance I'm. Delighted to have our next guest bass guest back because Mike it's been far too long that we've gone on Friday booze ram if you're so let's do. Bring in two time NBA all star Carlos Boozer joining us on the show pencil performance line. Boos before we get to the NBA. Od. What were your current words to describe the first game that you saw out of someone that's in the brotherhood. Of duke basketball players I am Williamson. You have the number one pick I mean he's incredible honor to good size 6768285. On about the gem. Decorate handled it by a defender got great strength. I saw that a couple breeze and I step back jump shot trust it'll be strong clinicians artistry in very good I mean he's in good that would that. What the question then becomes easy cities in a more tickets are RG Barry actually help his voice and that is clearly the better guy things and better player. Is it between the two buried is probably a little more polished. At the ball eighteen who is the prince of the book are both babies but they're a local college. But I am but I'm feeling and they're not gonna buy out quicker better better better jump shot through. As if you're senate rules it kind of depends what the levers of what now look at what they want but you don't want you to hit it one number two at the end of the day. They're both going to be Obama close. It certainly seems so Duke's gonna be a whole lot of fond to walk throw cam reddish in there the number three player coming in. This year and into college also on that team. Our Bruce Weber talked to you or since the season started were about what 121011. Games in. Over broader general thought of what you're seeing early on in the NBA season. I'll I'll supply the scoring is way up from various amount to cal lost the rocket and the microphone it's almost a kind of flow. I thought they would score a lot more points in India be knocked it seems thought I'd be bigger than a little odd scene with the lakers are compliant to gel that's our morale at all. A couple good games of late I see them doing really well on the next the next stretch of ten games. You would amount to a person and it was very competitive. No surprise to Cleveland view LeBron you're a lot of games to play there. Whom ever whether it be asserted it looked as though I didn't want their life let us while white riot Curtis critics have a. I I. Yeah I hear he is Karl's book let's let's ask you this question because a lot of people looking at two teams specifically right now what's more surprising to you. The way that the raptors have taken off with call why. Or how Houston seems to have imploded and can't shoot. Yeah I'm I'm I'm not a surprise with which Ronald being incredibly dual core I quite healthy. Obviously he's back into that look like MVP candidate norm. I'm that they can play great defense CME went to attain those are very good Eric Berry the great he. I'm with you he's a phenomenal talent up front on that also legally and repeatedly warned about really surprised the gardens and though like I I just thought that they lit. Amend their release about the GAAP and therefore maybe I went there were several are at the last night. I'm gonna score very good and that I didn't come a little bit spots James Harden and Chris all the dew on the one on one thing but this elite or went so. I'm due on the very gratified to have a web by the with the keyed low eighty point. I might be diplomatic low or under. During the post this and it is a remote part of the sport so yeah I mean I'm a little sort. Talk about Beck about an overall very close they were up the armor. And a popular have little bit better chemistry. So what's what's your answer their Karl semi were solid this team did last year and I mean the principles our better this year no reason is gone but. It isn't just a matter of all the shots and drop at some pointers or more they need to worry about. Marleau what you said there's really little real good look who's talking or where that missing because he locked up the at the a lot mbah a moute Obama it would also great defensive player. But I bet marketing and stop sleep and even if you score you know ninety point you to hold your debit seemed 89 went and I hate it stops well. Want another national Auburn well an out scoring on offense and into order giving up way to win eight point 8% when it first. Carlos Boozer with a so part of the brotherhood do boy that's not a well there. Heard that that's not gonna get annoying at all this season. And the soil of the two time NBA also part of our booze cruise Friday Carlos let's talk a little bit about step scurried here he's got that abductor strain he's going for an MR I today. And look we know the warriors a loaded there's no question about that but as a staff curry goes so go the warriors last season with curry 41 in ten. Without him seventeen and fourteen. Our second straight year now we've seen him get a little nicked up early in the season of last year was the ankle a little bit of a knee. What's your concern about the fragility of Golden State with out staff curry there. Yeah I mean it is it is very early roots in twelve games in the season. They've got the word about it at all a lot of basketball quarterfinals. Of two years we are playing a lot of a lot of basketball deep in the June in the summer. Obviously I don't know how how long he'll be out I don't know that's come out yet. You know got to step up they had a lot Donald wouldn't you know Katie financial expect out by up to its orange oil. Clay had a big game last night despite the loss to Milwaukee. I don't see rapidly among green hadn't seen him up it too much. I didn't have a lot account over there all the people you can start coming back at some point that ought. And the look at step back so. Amare will be consult with them and the blue route itself missing game took early in the season. You know we'll be there late in you know that the worst county and other tenant two democratic or anywhere. The longer they're all healthy going into the last couple months as he's in Q does. Org to the post he's going to be just our. Our Carlos Boozer NCAA champ but due to time NBA all star and the all star game the draft now will be televised sell a half years you're all star would you have liked. The dread that you could there be a draft and it to be televised. And on the other side of that do you think some players will have a problem with a. Yeah maybe at some sort of beat some or all bought out or of people like a player like that off the front end. Another arm on the planet on the court beat us. The draft and it was you who they pick and who they know. Because that's where the drama that lies chemical get picked up and lied so I don't know if the lighthearted that would be great great city. Well listen we will go snows we called the petty and nobody does daddy say don't them every day we are all little petty in the NBA because you know. I bet you know how this is gonna go down if you're one of the last makes every it was going to be blown up your Twitter feed. And your history and say why don't daylight view. Did that work comes down to argue if you're my body on you your and it hit it at Saint Cloud go out while a lot. I'll avert it didn't David you may you may not be able like a body that you picked it may have beat them from playoff thank you to all all of a technical damper on it but. You get within about the best you can eat the good cop when he got to look at the top guys that are in the league you in the game probably is an aunt are bigger job but. Tom. No matter who the captain garbage so step on the on the record the best of the best if you look at that'd agree that it's doubled the last. We'll see how it shakes out gold forward always great to have you with us because we more booze cruises on the show in the futures idol for a stranger right to it. Next on. Let's not expect too much there's only one person out there that is effective ways to watch how this guy surely we know that is that is his father. If you're a smoker you know switching isn't easy. Tried Bates and these rigs they just didn't deliver the satisfaction you expected. Jules. Is different. It's not any cigarette it's a bigger product that actually satisfies. Us. Joseph simple leaders and there's no cigarette national lingering odor as a smoker you expect a certain nicotine experience rice. Jewel delivers give Jewell dry chick OJ UU well dot com slash sports switched and be satisfied. Yes you can do both wearing this Puerto contains nicotine nicotine wasn't addictive chemical. Let's dive in to what we do every Friday without our five points to its. Not one not two not 35 points dance law. Goalie can windows. Yeah Herm we've been on the grass how about her get all eligible. Five points is Roger by Geico fifteen minutes could save you 15% or more on car insurance. Visit us at Geico dot com or call 180947. AUT. Oh and let's start. Trying to keep that role and after that big win Sunday. The saints go on the road to play Cincinnati Bengals team coming off their box. Yeah I just. I just don't sealock all right for Cincinnati in this game you know again to to beat a team. Like New Orleans army we know how they can score and you know since today is about their biggest weapons last I checked AJ green. I'm not gonna be back for a little bit right we're dead injury that he has coupled with the footage Cincinnati this is score 27 game Richard missing your top receiver. In this game I just don't think. They're gonna be able to hang with the states. Especially offensively and the saints defense that's it just like we talk about with Pittsburgh. The side of the ball that's really really. Picked it up so all I do think the same to be too strong on both sides of the ball. For the Bengals and the bagels are in the same bagels are wild card team right now. But I think hang in nine and you got to see which direction they're gonna go without their top target could be tough as they try and hang onto that spot. No we talked about all the records that Drew Brees has ticked off already this year including the most passing yards NFL history has a chance to. Put another nachos bell basically in this game. Drew Brees and is this game with 506 career touchdown passes only the fourth member of via 500 yard pat governor touchdown pass club. He's too by Brett Favre who is second all time on the list at 50 wait Tom Brady could also move up we'll get to that a little bit later but all he needs is two to tie. Three to get behind I get ahead of Brett Favre at 50 no no Rampage there were 530 by 73939. Ariane 530 I think it's 530 right writer that area there which again Brees is going to pass eventually he's going to get there as well. This yelling that's amazing about breeze. Last year he set the record for the highest completion percentage in season at 72%. He's completing over 76% of his past it's amazing what he's done and where he is going to end up I think Brady's gonna pass Peyton Manning as well but I think Indiana breeze we'll have more touchdown passes. That everyone's correct but. Assuming that he colts close to that it's going to the third straight year Mike that the completion percentage. Has been broken into 116 Sam Bradford did it. Although a much different environment because there are a lot of checked out there and safe throws he'd never great year rise completed a lot of easy throws and took took what was there what Drew Brees did last year he pushed it down the field and and watch where he throws the ball and where he puts the ball I mean receivers just have to love him yeah he is not paying an amount to drive at all given them every opportunity for yards after that and more not so we're not disparaging Sam Bradford were just saying the 72% from drew last year was a different kind of completion percentage might demo we saw from Sam. And if you're thinking wow that's really unusual that three straight years we may break the passing record. It's where the NFL once again to go with the way they're calling it on defense and understand that we think Dez Bryant snap count as in this game. Aussie I don't know I. Mean that's a tough part of course on how much do they simplify for him I mean eventually he'll learn the playbook produced this can be an intricate offense via a what you need to know from number plays at the lined options and such so. I I think it'll definitely be so the spoon fed and make it make it. A little more easier form I saw I you know. I I I it's really really tough for meted to guess what I'm sure they'll like to get understood you know get a few reps in there. You know you're handfuls. You know if that maybe fifteen it's money that could be sounds about right and middle Yzerman. As they go forward again our football power index. Gives the saints in 53%. Chance to win this contest are real law. The lions have five and 33 and five rather at the bears' five and three Detroit is nine and one in the last ten games against the bears have won three straight. And Mitchell too risky is Owen sixth in division games in his career but it's certainly feels like these are teams trending in opposite soldiers. Mean this is all about the bearers here this sort of bears wanna be okay there sit atop the division right now are you ready to hold that spot are you ready to be considered. Atop the division team you're are you ready to be consistent enough and be considered that good to be there they itself. This is a game we need to win notices at home. This is a game against a three and five team the bears are better than the Detroit Lions. Hello Max practiced Allen Robinson's practice so you get those two guys back again they've missed the last couple games so. To me this is a measuring stick of where the bears are any game they should. Win I agree with you and I thought last week's game was important because they went up to buffalo on the road and played a team with a backup quarterback trying to Nathan Peterman is you know. God bless him he's trying to figure they should. They did what they should they stomped on and that was different. From a few weeks go Mike when they went down to Miami right and played all the all albeit a much better version day I absorb exactly and Brock cost Weiler. But it was a team without their starting quarterback on the road and they lost that game right part of the reason they lost that game was their defense to load up to their billing. So to me what I saw last week out of the bears was real growth. This growth needs to continue at home this week against a line seemed they should beat me the vikings just got ten sacks. Off the lions. And now they're going to Chicago. And the monsters of the midway were not sure we'll Max going to be there or not he's been do what I know approximately every practice and I Robinson's and practice and so I wanna see them get after the quarterback I want to see I wanna see that defense say hey. We're as good as we looked early in the season. And I wanna see each Robiskie handled his business and take care of a team that they should take Europe but they need to do by the way we mentioned service he won six in division games in his career. He is the first bears quarterback to lose his first six division games with the team in the Super Bowl era. Our our FBI gives the bears a 76. Cent percent chance to win this game I think we think the bears when this one Daria I do I do too all right we meet we continue. We have the dolphins at five and four at the packers' 34 and one. So what interesting because where this game is matters the Packers are favored by the football power index. 82% chance to win this game. Now the month of November has been kind Erin Roger now as of late. He's lost eight of his last 10 November starts completing less than 60% of his passes in those games which seems really odd. You know and mute the pat listen. I I look at the Packers in this game I. The plane at Lambeau that been fantastic NCA AC. At Lambeau fifteen and four homers Rodgers 121 of the last thirteen so they get the job done they're good at this Miami team those trying to hang. Hang in there for that for that wild card race as it just talked about was Cincinnati. Five and three with a tough game this week do they slip a little bit the jets are or the Miami sit there are with four losses right now along with Tennessee. The chargers only have two I think. They're gonna get me really why I think Kansas City in the charges are going to be in cancer you division and are in chargers a walk are or vice Versa depending on the rest of the season. So to be one other wild card spot now Miami boy this is game monster win for them they can get this one of the belt I don't see it happening. I'll with the Packers at home through the weather's going to be closer there Rogers I I'd like. I like the Packers this or nine and a half point favorite I see him get home win here. I do to look big though the Packers have lost two rough games on the road zoo very good teams but basically courtesy of fumbles that took the ball out of Aaron Rodgers stands an a couple of situations. What what Tom Montgomery kitten yet taken out of the end zone late against the rams and a fourth quarter fumble by the running back in Foxborough when they were driving to potentially tied that game. They have not lost at home yet this season that tied to their Ross writes I I do think that this game will go their way. And I think they'll figure it out speaking of the Packers by the way thanks to those of you listen in 945 FM in Milwaukee OP enjoyed your boat just pick the Packers were days ago sold to have a beer brought on us scenario but I again I I like the whole stats firm Rogers in this game more importantly than the November trending stats for Aaron Rodgers right yes yes I -- plus Miami cold weather backup quarterback. I think this is it to get right game in his game for the Packers sort of feel like. They can be a good. This could be one of those what is the if you know when there's south clear what if thing at if when you're out of the playoffs in the offseason goal let McCain get by you did this would be wanna go that this would be a bet I would continue to five point stance. Seattle coming off at home loss of the Los Angeles chargers now goes to Los Angeles to take on the rams. The rams of course over their first loss last week in New Orleans. FBI gives the rams in 77%. Chance to win. I'm telling yeah. This what is interesting to me it is Seattle soul Seattle lost the first two games of the season. And then a the next six. They won four lost to yep you know the two they lost to their Austin the rare is it a 3330 want two point game and they lost the chargers. 2517. Salt to the top teams that we think right now. And they won four. There barrel they look better from a defense decide to offer to side of the ball. I think they're hitting a pretty good stride right now I know again like us and I understand they lost last week but they're two losses due to the top teams. Our latest two losses through to the top team. This could be more of a gamer. Then we think I agree ten points may be to I still think the rim should win this game especially coming off their first loss. You know trying to get a little revenge factors bear. On that lost atop. Ten might be a lot I I should watch out for the waste Seattle's playing right now. Mike I'm more curious about this game than almost any game this season for the rams because I thought after the loss. The saints Sean McVeigh struck all the right courts no word good reply it was he was talking to his team right. Through. Through the media there and were cited go to work but how do you play yeah I am hi do you play after your first loss I agree. And again this has dealmakers of the old trap game for programs as well. And how Seattle's little better so it makes a little less of a trap game but yet. The saints on the road right and then next week. I don't we mentioned that the next monocle bought to this one is the rams and chiefs and now Mexico City monster that we talked about. As much is going to be great so in between you have a home game. The rams up against the Seattle and I think they should win now I think the loss helps them not worry about this being attract yeah I I would think so what I've watched Seattle missile and they are really coming along since the start of the season that they really are but I think we're gonna see the best out of the rams this week as they want to let people annoy me. We may have lost a game we're still really really good football team see what happens there will finish up. Sunday night game. It is the cowboys' three and five at the Eagles form for Dallas has yet to win on the road might. And they're just coming off their first home loss of the season Monday night where they just went away from what they do best in the second half to Tennessee I was incredible again I. He Kelly the first half gets six touches total. In the second has zero rushes in the fourth quarter quickly on the eagle side of the golden to hate. Makes his debut. Look at the marriage Thomas made his debut were used and they kind of went tour right way to get him involved Mary's Thomas then Amare Cooper got involved really cowboys' new wide receiver there. And now a Golden Tate now. The Eagles haven't been a huge three wide receiver set their fifth fewest plays from a three wide receiver set this season. But now what else on Jeffrey Nelson Ira Lauren Golden Tate together you know that's good and between that and Zach hurts at tight end man that looks like a good be appalled lineup. I would say watch Golden Tate kicked that a little bit here like the other two newcomers work as well on the trade side of it. I'd like Philly in this game the cowboys we just talked about what they did the second half and you wanna you wanna cover your ears. Cowboy fans. Jack Prescott's Stan. Deck press got yet spent has more wins in his rookie season thirteen. Then his 24 games since now that's now being that I'm not a huge believer and winds being a quarterback step right. But but that is a Lola I think the next data I was just one notable quarterbacks were better. Oral QB our ratings then Dak this season. This season to me those are much more damning in the way until they are they are but you know I really open and they got to change the philosophy of that offense and and what they're doing and how there and how they're running plays a mean everybody screaming about it. Will they I have no idea yet you Kelly it's got to be so much more Bob Beckett only help Dak. Yeah see that's the thing that drives me crazy reading these steps. Again you you were you reading these numbers about deck and they're telling you he's not really playing that well. So why in hell. Would you. In the second half of that game when seek Elliott had 96 total yards in the first half against Tennessee in what was a tie game or one score game for most the second half. Only gives seek six touches in the second half when you know your quarterback is struggling now it makes no sense. It makes no sense I completely agree and so let's see if we see anything different on an offense all the same principles that are from players to coaches up. So sewer worker and again our FBI gives the Eagles a 74%. Chance to win that game by eight and a half points and that causes. Five point stance for a week. Well. It makes me wanna vomit and then punch you square in the face anyway yeah. Police saucy today. All right. Is that time again. 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I don't know how you can feel good about anything to vessels are usually take that compliment any time he's all right cool Baltic and now we just take effect that we move on and start designing. Unknown new want banks is no reason for all of them Belda. This season love it or shove it I mean. The way he has been going and the moves he's been making I would love that they want why would you play I mean why you're sitting out. I mean just continue that it would stun me all the sudden he shows up. We know would be for more of the jets at the Super Bowl ring and the fact that he get five million as oppose Ari losing nine million. But the way he's played that and some people think it's he's played wrong I don't know why you're jobs I would love that. I have to love this as well look if you. If you are willing to sacrifice nine million to make sure your healthy. Why would you say I'm I'm going to take a five million and put in the risk of not being ready. A potential 35 to forty million dollar payday and look if he shows up now. The dumbest thing of all time this entire rolled out makes no sense it makes no sense now. If he holds out I got it. I gotta be based is that a by a fourteen million dollar churn spicy so I'm gonna make sure I'm healthy to get 38 million dollars. He shows up now I. I throw my hands a lot of knowing you we both love it we both we've both about it aid team in the top six of the college football playoff rankings will lose this weekend lover shutter. Number four Michigan is that Rutgers number five Georgia hosting Auburn number six Oklahoma hosting Oklahoma State. I don't think anybody loses so I will show of that if you if you. Tell me down to say somebody's going to lose I would look at possibly that climbs in Boston College game. As as the possibility there. I would think Notre Dame and Florida before state is just not playing well all this year coming up to cold weather or just don't pick them both well. But I'll show that I don't think any of the top six or losing a. I don't wanna love it just because it would begin the chaos process you'll lose more. You know Oklahoma city's soul up and down whereas is that game is still waters are not in Oklahoma. Obama is posters or makes him different. Because that's what I was looking America's sometimes. Think crazy things happen that you water than a lot of times it's her I wanna I wanna love it but I think human after Charlotte as well earned. Rams cornerback Marcus Peter's response to saints coach Sean Payton. Wilder shot let's play it one more time after Sean Payton said hey we like to match up Bard got Mike Thomas on Marcus Peters. Where you where Sean Payton said after that New Orleans game you sit in that last sequence we want to. They got the matchup they wanted to do with you on that one just laughing Q talk a minute and you'll see some. You tune turn up the good guy like we was saying on the Sar wants to certainly keep talking and and I hope he seemed song you assume that do we have a good Lou nice little bullet Cambodia's logged some tumbled together and ensure. Peyton can get a caller on the. I'd live a little bit yes what you listen I I would love this just for the fact I get players' pride but you know what. One of the match up they got the match up and market she got beat at about the first or last time for any corner that that's going to get beat but it worked perfectly for them. But I get it as a player you are very pride full and you got called out basically by name. When Payton Payton Shawn Payton said we saw markets go over there that's exact basically what we wanted. We wanna that matchup so I understand. Peters you know not be real happy so you love to show that I would love it now I think I have the Lovett denies got to back it up now I played well and what everything Johnson wasn't wrong no was not so well do you get that gumbo Marcus Hugo Bakken and it and pick it up and not know much so I love it. Duke who would beat the current cavaliers team filming while all boy. Pod tube could have three of the top four NBA I draft picks this year RJ very time lawyer sitting camera reddish. And you talk about the current cast team which again is without Kevin Love their best player he's not he's not on the he's not playing right now. I think of the four majors if you had a college because we're result island Alabama yet they can be to build a narrower and it would happen yeah of all of of the four majors I think basketball could be possibly the closest because. Very is where we see guys come in and have an immediate impact yes you're talking about the possibility. Of three of the top draft picks. For one team playing for one team right now. But I still do not think that they would be the current Cleveland Cavaliers team lomb Hummer to show that but I do think in basketball could be the closest imagine if throw it forward Tim now because the fab five back when the NBA was what it was then when you're a lot more physical and beat people up. You wouldn't say it for the fab five team like that. Now because by the way duke has four freshman starting correct so figure the fab five in today's world would they be able to beat the worst team in the NBA while I would say no. I think you basketball who would be to close. Since this is the only one where you even have to say. From what I think about it for a second football they get slaughtered up Major League pitching against baseball college hitters. They'd mole the only chance you would get is if you got that one year war there were that. The best team had a pitcher who's going to be number one pick and went right to the majors right yet that that that rarity right there another reason we're sort of having this discussion is as were all your cells are his job on the jump though it was ugly on the job. Was I basketball program aren't here's Paul Pierce basically saying that he thinks duke could be the get go when I got some hate it. I get the Cleveland here. Yeah out. I'm still shot and that I am I mean weird Jordan clarks and Channing Frye. George Hill Rodney hood Kyle Korver Larry Nance junior. What it's the only game where it's at this the only sport where it's a discussion. But I still think the pros would be the college kids even though Zion Williamson to quote tables homage to all odds we shot. Wish baseball players are worse are reported total as the beer vendors I mean slower so yeah she shouted as far as you can in a certain area again Bilge. Games that and analytics a Saber metrics guide to consultant for the Red Sox. He said of the players all retire tomorrow we were replaced them. The game would go on in three years it would make no difference whatsoever the players are not the game any more than the beer vendors are. As far as replacement players that's been true since the beginning of time players are replaced all the time rosters change every single year. So that's nothing new players are not a game any more than beer vendors are is one of the more stupid comments I have heard somebody make in my life. And again musical consultant for the red talked in the Red Sox couldn't have backed away from him. Any quicker where their statement of you know he did he's not an employee the other Red Sox used as a consultant and basically what we think he's he said was idiotic as well because it was idiotic. We we showed the whole deal off and everything because you know what players play what is it coaches coach players play in a zone. Obviously players you replace its while we address a flurry of trades as well we have free agency but to suggest that the beer vendors are as important to the games the players. Is the dumbest thing I've heard in a long long time boom we showed. Putting up Christmas decorations before Thanksgiving love it or I should have little other shove a lot of work on that one. I would lean towards this or the summer but it doesn't bother me I enjoy him now budget guys you're doing it wants. Your truck is trying to do nor mother I do love our shot governor Bob. And when a tough spot area. A lot it was a Smart guy and now. We're a lot of guys. And a lot of thank you very much out on the way to present notables. 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