Dec 5, 2018|
The guys talk about Urban Meyer's presser and believe he will coach again. Then, the guys talk with Raptors Head Coach Nick Nurse, ESPN NFL Draft Analyst Todd McShay and more.
The guys talk about the big AFC West matchup between the Chargers and the Chiefs with Louis Riddick before bringing in Tim Kurkjian, Tedy Bruschi and more.
The guys talk with Professional Sports Handicapper Gianni Karalis before going through the Five Point Stance on the NFL and more.
The guys talk with ESPN NFL Analyst Tedy Bruschi about the Chargers/Chiefs game before playing "Love It Or Shove It" with Bubba and more.
The guys talk with ESPN NFL Front Office Insider Louis Riddick about his Bears prediction before talking with MLB Insider Tim Kurkjian about the Winter Meetings and more.
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Lose out got a veteran airline had us where your work through this and this song certainly well to work through this. Got a lot to talk about today we had a retirement yesterday what I'm not gonna lie. There's an injury we're gonna talk about that I had never heard of I I now I know always associated with pitchers admit to it in in baseball. But that this was a new one to me will break it down for you and we sort. Leoville those results suppose they do work quite sure about today that we. You've talked about as well but there yet that was that was a no one we'll get to that a little bit but the other big think today is people reacting to what. Broke while we were on the air yesterday urban Meyer's courier at Ohio State and he believes his entire coaching career. Is over by Deutsche urban Meyer's retirement is what everybody's talking about after the fact brought to you by Lowe's pros in the know start with lows. Go to Lowe's for pros dot com for details so as we were going through the show yesterday the big news broke that Ohio's it was going to be a press conference at 2 o'clock. Announcing that Urban Meyer will be stepping down after the Rose Bowl game against Washington and not only will be leaving Ohio State he would also be retiring. From football and from coaching. Now so let's have some. Thoughts about that one right now that may or may not be the case in urban address a lot of those things. But just to get people caught up on everything that happened here was what. How the day began this was urban opening statement. We announced after an unbelievably successful run at Ohio State. Our thanks impart to some health issues that he's dealt with that system in his brain he is going to be stepping down. I'm honored to represent in my home state is great university in the past seven seasons. By goals all's been. To make this for the premiere and most comprehensive programs in America. Those all's been a goal to see your healthy Shrum program and a totally coach and person. To make it even better and I wanted to graduate I arrived early in his family. I'll look forward to a work toward our staff and players to prepare to deploy a Washington in the Rose Bowl. It's all's gonna dream of mine and many of our coaches and players to compete in the Rose Bowl has to be an arch represented. The Big Ten Conference in that game. So that was the initial. Paid this is why we're here and and and this is high that's sort of altered. I mean and then there were certainly some gray areas that will remain gray hair is one was the moment you know that you were you knew you're gonna be done and and there was never really answer that and there are some things that remain active enters through there may be a book. At some point but. There are of a few concrete things of why now there's an early signing date. Which I believe this at some point this month and a couple of week yeah it comes up early in December 19 of December 19 and and and against 44 concrete reason. Of why they're changing now if you would have done this after that date any commitment they would of had would have been able to leave and have no penalty and also all. Wanna kind of get ahead this will still be involved in the recruiting on campus all right Gary. Basically as editor were pretty funny where and when are rose art about that rivalry and probably four states tomorrow and looked over Ryan said at least he better do. As far as recruiting and he'll be more. On campus so it was about. What I expected to odd to hear from at least know listen. Urban I I didn't expect it to get emotionally didn't get emotional which means you wonder how long this has been in the pipeline and really go through emotions are ready may be used in an emotional guy I don't know I don't know all. Well often turn know that. But none of it really surprised me. And I still stand by my thought process work. He said it was about the headaches. Certainly said what went on the beginning of this year had something to do with a well. Go away a little bit and we'll see what time does for his health as well. I still believe he's coming back to coach again. That's the thing I wonder is. Is my perception in the way I see this situation now still so colored by my image of him at that press conference at the beginning of the year right where he was finally dealt with through all these are all these situations where he was defiant bordering on petulant looked disinterested. And just in general left everyone with a bad taste in their mouth. Is that version of Urban Meyer so suck in my head and I thought. The reason that we had this collective eye roll the thought that he was done with his career was because we saw this already happen if Florida. We know the things that were part of his career they're there were less than stellar Florida and so. While you're respectful of what he's dealing with health wise now we're not out of bounds to sort of look at this. With aside die because of what we've dealt with already what we dom was recently like. As much as I wanna be giving away from what happened this summer might change some of this perspective. I still had everything else before that's right at the front of my mind so what's the figure this more always stay Avery for a part of his legacy there. Is a sensible lather rinse repeat scenario here right he was very successful Florida. There were some unsavory things that happened with the program auto players are asked that I donors and exorbitant amount to thirty plus and then there was that 911 call the health issue with the system the brain right feels like. This is just repeating itself and that that's not to say that those health concerns. And don't what ten years older in time those are real things but you do sort of feel like. Okay we've seen how this played out he was away for a grand total of the year. And then he went back in now some would say that was because the Ohio State job was a dream job for him and he alluded to that in his opening statement but still. Mike you and I noticed we've been around coaches forever when Eric Mangini was working with us here. On NFL live he went back to a coaching seminar. He came back to means a trade with the clicker in my hand and I felt like it was the foam that had been missing. From my hand you are your wired to do this or you're not well and. It was surprising to me that some haven't gotten back into but I restore like that when we're drew Mike in my green and I were doing the all star. Our shows I believe it was in Pittsburgh when you're the baseball star and in came a guy who wasn't managing at the time. In day in shorts. Flip flops hand all wind shirt. Luke and Allah now and we're talking to lose out America here that point here is like man I feel great you know formerly tool to relax alleged do you look fantastic. And what does he do. It's vacuum right I mean they jump back into I have to admit the most surprising one to me Jimmie Johnson Jimmy Johnson never got back into a successful. Obviously with the cowboys went to Miami you know not not the success he wanted there. I was surprised. That he didn't go back that was the one that surprised me. I had a guy had given up on gruden added that he was gone back he ends have gone back well a hundred billion do that all about her more than a hundred million I didn't they are almost gone back he'd been off for a while but but he went back it was successful Arizona State. So all I just. I know we've seen it where and why we see that we're all sinners Souter did. Who's we call an upset that so many history correct or Adobe had another you don't network and they'll come in the door for a while so. To me it's going to be more about the health issues of which we've seen him take a break before and then come back all the other stuff. The intense stuff that that he had gone through that stuff eases I think with time if he feels good enough health wise in a couple of years I don't I I firmly believe will stream coach and. I mean when you talk about the other portions of his legacy ME most of it was Ohio State is what happened this summer and everything that surrounded Rex Smith miss case. And it's stuff that. We know other programs are going to be willing to excuse away in the name of winning like Urban Meyer is an intoxicated when it comes to what he can do for your football program potentially. And he's a guy that. While he is controlling his exit here and he's saying it's a retirement all these things. There is also a part of me that has a hard time believing that what happened this summer didn't start a lot of these reels and Malaysian correct we have that press conference room would Gene Smith always figure what this would be a clean break for both parties at the end of this year and so it's not necessarily him. Going out on the timeline that maybe he wanted for a number of reasons and with a list of players. You always say you never make that decision about retirement right at the end of the season don't believe there's somebody marcher yet don't don't believe that he had that time to rest and recover its one Urban Meyer has that time away. And he starts to feel better and he starts to feel like cough maybe I can do this again. We eight. Coaches just don't have the ability to not scratch that hatred gut level when you start to feel better and he's right coming off of the heat of all of this yet go doing go present about progressive insurance the power to save as in your hands snapshot from progress for wards. You're safe driving with discounts. Find out more progressive doc comes obviously during that press conference Urban Meyer was asked that question is this really going to be the end of your coaching career. Urban as you sit here net do you believe you will not coach again currently all of which are you fairly certain that certain. Do you anticipate staying in Columbus and being around for the program along Columbus oh love your show were aware of I've always been about cars laws like to remember. Gene Smith our electorate sort of took our relations all's been good it's over the top now. And I trust him with my life in or fairways are very close and so. When he's whose jobs are still Sonoma store called Boston. However I can help us I believe in Ohio State. And now let me just say this having played her feel them out by his house. It's an hour listener said I bet that would realign your mind Santa noted Muirfield it is not black enough but this week it's not a clean to know OK how fast not a Shaq. All all on the fairways they're near field aren't so he said he's certain. At any any also said he's gonna hang around there I don't know what what if he's gonna have a title or anything but the plan is good at that that I wasn't sure of if you gonna stay there is he not easy gonna go somewhere warm but he wants to be there watching his wife again is is adjunct professor. At Ohio State and and jeans and actually was looking at her saying why haven't argued yet if you're gonna stood still continue to do that so maybe shall continue to did he want to be part of that. Organizational say this that while we all believe he's going to coach again I'm not gonna sit there and win. If and when it. He says I'm coaching again I'm not gonna look back at Zell looking should you work. Hold that against Maine if if you sort of say I'm not sure right now. Imagine I mean it would be the questions would be nonstop and he may think he made truly think. You know what with the issues I've had with with my headaches in what some of the things Barak he may really think he is done right so if it did two years he says I'm comeback. I'm not gonna be one of those guys that's all you lied all of us I said you're done you re really may feel. Like he's done right now but just like you said Mike. I agree I think over time to start feel a little better when all the color comes back to we thought we got to voice all the way back into feeling pretty good. And you don't have you know you're an empty nest stir your life. OK don't Mitt Mitt maybe have a good enough to try this again because you know what's gonna happen he's gonna have that person. I don't know if it's attorney age whatever. That everybody calls every year hey how's it feel crazy thing about coming back pay what do you think now or anything about this year where the about this year that's gonna go on. It's already starting. It's already starting and so. And at Stanford called a wider than our opponent but it doesn't mean I have to believe him right now we know that's exactly right well now I listen things change and especially when. People throw bags of money that you. And you had that time as you said and you've played your fifth round of the week and you've watched your son. Up classic is the sun's gonna play baseball Cincinnati. You pursued Cincinnati and his dad daughter was volleyball I I believe that absolutely. So we are all I think were right to say yet but when someone says that but. Kirk herb street. Says he's fairly certain. He's fairly certain that this has now we've now seen the last of Urban Meyer when it comes to the Rose Bowl that will be his last game as a head coach. I wanna make one thing very very clear I know Irvin Meyer very well he he recruited me he was a GA when I was coming out of high school known him since going back to the mid eighties I consider me very good friend he will not be backing coaching if he is I will be shocked and the reason he's in Ohio State guy to his core he's not at Notre Dame guy the way the national media kind of portray him at times. He's an Ohio State guy his legacy to him is everything. And so. I would be shocked to see him within the Ohio State administration. Helping out Gene Smith helping out Ryan day as the new coach. This is different this is you know he did a great job at Florida. But he was somewhat of a hired gun to go in there and turn that program around Jeremy Foley did a great job in hiring him when he came back to Ohio State he was home. All right so Herbie knows him as well as anybody he believes he's done and I'm not taking anything away from Kirk. But Matt brown just won back in the coaching it's you ages 67. Less miles just took the Kansas job at the ages 65. Urban is 54. Unless the healthy things are much much worse than we'd been led to believe. I have a hard time believing we've seen them on the silence the cost fifty insecure about his legacy more than he cares about the act. Active coach in which seems to be with these guys can't quit as much Sendy Rleal it's an addiction melody atlas is an addiction to these guys I I still go back to. Bud Carson when when he was my. When I retired in 94 he called me and he said Mike I think you could be a really good coach I'd like to bring on. My staff and make you like an assistant. A member talk and to you know my wife about it and armour told bloodless and that I love you. But I see you guys. It's a nomadic life icu in their before I show up. And I see you still there after I leave you know in my nine years playing I said. I I were while I love the thought of coaching I don't think I can take that lifestyle of coaching these guys are different breed they are an absolute. Different breed and I mean that in in a nicely though you see the burnt out a lot of times on guys as well. But they they they have that addiction that is very difficult to go to to get rid. Well it's getting nice weight you see examples like this is all guys know like lost to mrs. that a few days ago Bill Snyder just retired right right right been the hallmark of I mean you. I could argue with the greatest coaching job in the history of college football what happened with him in Manhattan Kansas and what he did tonight Kansas State program. But he retired and we thought this guy you assign him may begin to be coaching into his eighties and generally into the eighties at that point he battled. Throat cancer two years ago and still found his way back into the office but the it's hard to give up put all this new base level of coaching is the level of control which you have and that's level control to god Urban Meyer troubled this summer. I'm in a lot of trouble what happens next mid because he believed he could coach at control everything throughout this. And going and trying to replicate that portion of it in the rest of your life is a difficult thing all the sudden you've got to reconcile. Every aspect of what I had going on around me was undermining umbrella was undermined powers a college football coach and that's another thing you can't replicate or be any or else sell you can't and you brought up perm I can't tell you how many times term and I will be. Outlook either talking on the show. Our plans are when there goes the rodeo I'm done I'm never back this this is my team we're here forever so that those rumors came out by what forks up normalcy in a week at the Las Vegas ball. You know those rumors came out a huge act is no he's going back crazy. And I Texan you as well talking one ailment. Is he's going OK let's go back and he said. Yet I never stop being a coach I missed field grass under my feet you are you are inherently wired. Or your not to be coached and there's. You can try and turn it off. It's never going to be fully turned its another guy that I ended up working with here that I respected is as much as anybody you know I told there's only a couple of guys in my life I respect as much as my father. And bill Curry's proud of those guys. A Bill Curry had an unbelievable playing career but remember you coach at Georgia Tech he coached at Alabama he coached at Kentucky last year Kentucky's 1996. And he used to tell he would tell me we are doing games together all of the things that he missed because of it. The sacrifices you make because of it the family things that you miss the burn out that there is. And he went back and did it all over again in 2008 started a brand new program in Georgia State I think part of that was. He had learned so much from what he did the first time that he went back with kind of a different mentality and attitude but he still wanted to go back and coach some kids cell. It's just it doesn't leave these guys I mean it is is an incredible Hulk how important it is to their life. That demand it matters to him your identity is something really mean even for you you've been a broadcaster for twenty years now you always say I'm players still partly right to Miami I do. Don't wait. You're going to Europe player among well law. Love if that ring. Yeah. And it's deserving I want I walked in militant crazy to think in a sort. Whatever and I'm with you if he comes back it's going to be high I don't know them and. It's just it's hard to plot it's hard to put an end to the thing. That defines you two year core at what you've done professionally. Was in thirty plus years it's just hard to say. Noble and better than most everyone else because that's a filling the successes ridiculous you're great you're not just eight coach Joerg breed at this okay so let's assume. Because what that mcsame is what 67 and he still goes wrong doing this yes balm. Urban Meyer's done ten years from now icu. Urban Meyer is a coach you say. If this is a forum I mean a good third there's ways to look at if you're right off the top your registry one of the greatest coaches who winningest coaches we've ever seen yet and that if you as you start going more and more until you start bringing up. You know some of the issues all the the players I got in trouble in Florida and the issue that came up on our house saved by the right out the top there had to say. Everywhere the guy away. He won. And north the end of the day in the big business of college you know athletics the students there at the view most important thing of one of the most important things I should say. Out there and he did it as well as anybody. I I can't get away it just. Automatically like my gut level reaction right now and who's to say it doesn't change. Right now I just think complicated. I I think he guided the report tonight trouble believing in certain elements that certainly had all that winning associated with him. But de SEC a complicated standing in the world of football not well listen. College football is complicated on a lot of levels. Goalie simply goes. Very wait Bjorn and Michael senior. Goal going go if you wanna Wednesday morning ESPN radio ESP ensued. 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And they tried to have him teach the move to the rest do you find exit. I don't really know how to teach it I just know how to do it Wright saying it right is one of those things gathered just know how to do it already and there. And now you're trying to see now that's good do well I hung up my careers been built on not trying at all saga star I. I thought I could hook you for promise you that. Oh by the way our power rankings are coming up a little later on this hour by hour I mean. Our doors now we're all in this together or not know these are gonna I wanna distance myself these are you already have we we stopped from there were we used to be their top five power rankings of largest power rankings because. And since week to your never had just five lets you know it's very difficult I mean there's two things that are going on I I just I wanna accurately reflect. I'm feeling about that straight as you say it's not difficult it's five it's five things. Like I was here. Remember this started it was me I knew I was still an image yoga and we are all excited about this and I love being a part of this now I look at juror I don't even recognized the man it's spitting out eight teams it's. It's it's it's not there. Five is that hey we always not I'm not out there just Friday night on. You would think a guy that's got off greeted Millwood have a little more you know relax about him pesto shelters tocchet does Obama and realize how great it was visitor Reggie White what you can't move I doubt I know orchard as auto cause all's weird like Brandon hall yeah I say don't fit the ribbon hmmm sounds worse like actors out there's not a lot of listed sounds great for knows kind of filled with a lot of we can I tell you watch Reggie ago. Oil man. All I think you've just. Summed up the show perfectly not a lot of it sounds great now in fifth or you're sort of sort of where we are. So let's get started with a little restaurant. Save ourselves from harsh ourselves. Allow myself to introduce myself. By the way Urban Meyer said the cumulative effects of health problems the current strength of the buckeye program and the impact of a lengthy suspension to start this season. Convince him to announce his retirement Tuesday mire of lead director Gene Smith both said they hope the chamber too boring season coach. We'll stick around Ohio State in some capacity but he's saying he's done. And that is a plan if you if you listen to the armed the presser yesterday that he was going to hang around it was going to help. A bit we'll see what role that actually is. We all appear believe that over time I don't know that the year two years three years or more. That he will coach again he's just 54 years old which quite honestly you hum fur coat so yeah we'll say Tom at all he was asked that question specifically. Urban as you sit here net do you believe you will not coach again I believe all the coaches are you fairly certain that certain. Do we anticipate staying in Columbus and being around that program I love Columbus hello Muirfield where live. I've always been about cars laws like to remember. Gene Smith or the lakers who have that our relations was only good it's over the top now. And I trust him with my wife and or fairways are very close and so. When he's whose job by Stosur a rose to call Boston. However I can focus I believe in Ohio State. And he believes he's done. And if -- -- ingesting the more more I sit with you guys talk about how he wants to stay around the program how Ryan day's gonna take over and how he viewed it a lot we heard this behind the scenes he's you know a lot of the same way that Bob Stoops feuding handing the program over to Lincoln Riley feels like it was a good time to leave the program and a spot link I would produced in those first couple years and a big way to put him on the map if grind it goes out there and doesn't produce. An Urban Meyer still hang around there in Ohio State to please loves him like that he's got this relationship with Gene Smith. We talk about all these other programs Ohio State have to say if it's not working out with. I'm dale that is going to be because we talked about the the kind of the ancillary jobs bill personnel directors and the strength coach that our meters and so I mean they're important jobs but they're not the assistant coaches those names are gonna change read and write day address that sale pool will deal with that after the Rose Bowl. There's hearing new coach is there. And we're not sure he's getting his quarterback back in Dwyane Haskins who can't I'll go to the draft all the sudden he is jumped over rated very high as he should be. So he doesn't come back now you have a bunch of new coach is you will have a bunch of new coaches. And your that you may have a new quarterback and you'll have urban just hanging out does is hang out the scene and we'll safety causal safety valve over the upper. I brought it up before but Bill Snyder just retired Kansas State he tried to retire early on the program went south immediately and he had been a guy that's stuck around there. And just slid right back into that role because he was still well liked the program knew what it was with him at the Helm. You wonder if any that creeps if things go south. At all and I mean south Jersey high bar Ryder right now to maintain the stand. Quote Ohio State's a lot easier to go south and it is going north for more urban now it now program from a football perspective. By the royal icing up really Big Ten team making a coaching change Michael Oxley the Alabama offensive coordinator has been hired as the new head coach Maryland. Logically will stay on Alabama through the team's run in the college football play yeah and he had been at Maryland before he was in her head coach who's won in five. By 2050 you're ideas about party was an assistant there as well so he's he's got a few trips to Merrill until. Just another one dollar and listen knicks' David essar deal where there's all the time. You know his top coaches his coordinators. Moving on we head coaches in other jobs so it's not like it's anything I just I was wondering if Matt Canada who was in her court review DJ Durkin. I I wondered if he would keep that job because. Did pretty well this year you know considering that the circumstances. And we both an adult would Mac can't might cure and I am doing a game. When he was at Pitt before went LSU and then to Maryland. And we know he that is a guy that wants to be head coach and I thought he might have a shot there but not locks are going to be there and a newscaster play shed another. Coordinate our drew nor the success Oxley just won the royals work for the top assistant in college football and when you think Justine the recent run for the defensive coordinators you know Pruitt just went on to coach at Tennessee we know Kirby Smart have left and out onto his Raila Georgia Brian Cabell who's a knob the offensive coordinator and buffalo now was formally in New England Lane Kiffin. You see big constantly send guys out. Whether or not they're homegrown or not the guys who come over into Alabama's program sort of go through the Nick Saban rehabilitation process and then get sent back out in the coaching world usually more coveted because of it. Yeah I'll Oxley when one of five as the team's interim head coach for the last six games at 2015 after Randy Edsel was fired a so again he's a guy from there and he's headed back. Also in college football Kelly Bryant former Clemson quarterback is headed to Missouri. Brian announces decision Tuesday night via Twitter posting a video of game highlights and work outs along with the hat. When memory of home called the test of a man you know you look at where you're in a situation like that you look for words my best opportunity yeah. And Missouri they eSATA for your starter and drew Locke will be open the draft this year so that quarterback spot is open it's been one guy for the last four years. In going there right away under the new rules he does that to city year at all so he feels this who give me his best opportunity. To show his wares to try get the next level Woolsey put that. You know we're we're we're talking about different guys are Kelly Bryant who left who talk about jailer who stayed. Lot of people praising Jalen hurt but as I say is a great story there but I'm not crucify Kelly Bryant know for doing what he did by. Any stretch of the imagination nowhere near to this spot is one of the few places where we actually think of quarterback play in the SEC this system is at least lent itself to that now obviously a lot of that had to do Josh white board that system right now is over UCF. But certainly under barrier to you brought Derek Dooley in their guy was gonna incorporate some more of those pros styles so as far as things are gonna give Kelly Brian a chance to go out there. And shine throwing the ball. Running some pro concepts Missouri seems like you landing spot that makes sense and like you said you're going to need work at that position now to drew Locke is going to be on the out. And we Wii's we'll see what happens with with Kelly going for I'm glad you said that because it. The war coverage alerts that was great friend that doesn't mean everyone has to go down that road he made that decision and worked out for Emmett Kelly made his decision looks a.s and work out OK for him. So osu and that was with Kelly. When he goes to Columbia Missouri are gold going to with Ewing has been radio in the history into before we get to the big man is in analyst Damien Woody. We need to get some straight talk here brought to buy straight talk wireless best phones best that national contracts. I look. We all harbor right Paul sure he was wearing a mud Harvard taught like oh yeah he would talk and take nearly two. Well so anyway with Harvard Smart guys all that stuff blah blah and Notre Dame v.s code security as well. Help me who the next three weeks arm so a Harvard professor. Says. That your perfect portion of French Fries. Should contain only six. Six Eric rim a professor at the Harvard PH and school of public health. Called potato a starch bomb. A recent New York Times article he suggested if you must indulge in order French Fries consider limiting the portion size to six. If there is a person. On the face of this earth that can stop. At six. I wanna meet in than ever wanna see him again in my life hook. I don't think that's possible I don't they can have been normal I think it should happen. And I think air and should have is a teaching credentials taken away from. I don't mean that obviously I'm just kidding tiger are you kidding me six. French Fries I threw ten or or two handfuls of Fries before the start tasting room. Let alone stopping at six this. Crazy. I tell you what I began a program Russia biggies right what's he's right what will you do it. No because what should we don't duel with anything when you pointed out is exactly what I've been seeing on the side of food labels fears you look at recommended servings Isaac Oreo is. Three or heroes and a survey was the last time you wait three or does it doesn't matter what the serving sizes that's a polite reminder report savidge you are so when you go to tech your next order of Fries. Think man the average person is always posting 86 I just ate fifty. And I didn't even think twice about it you know why. Because I'm that many times more the person that you are I'm that many more times. The consumer Fries in New York this is a reminder you're hero every time you attack your large fry I don't think it's just on its not healthy and you know what. We don't care is a big which led by the way somebody else disagrees. Elaine McGee a dietitian. Says anything can be healthy petite mindful. If you eat French Fries that way you'll probably be satisfied with ten. 101010. Better and number now you know also sport a number on the agricultural department. It lists a serving of Fries as three ounces which amounts to twelve to fifteen. Individual as they put it you'll take us you'll do told Christine that's a healthy handful right there and I don't get personal rattle out of the box you'll go told boosting no. What a lecture number bad whatever is in the back don't you call it what you job that's what go to five guys because the bad Fries. Angle. Well like when you can look at the bad and you see did Greece cooling down the outside that's when you know your back to do some harm so I. That's good for 34 times don't really know. I think when you're there and it's like when I go to the movies here. And you put the caloric intake of food I'm about. I don't wanna know I'm here to do bad things regardless of. We will restaurant a lot of I certainly I do about food I'm really liking 8515. Guys right 85 good and fifteen bad about what we yeah. Let your fifteen adjust. I know Eric Grimm said there are a lot of people who are sending back three quarters of order French Fries and I think it would be nice if your meal. Came with they site salad and six French Fries whenever. A lawyer that's straight talk broad demonstrates our wireless nationwide coverage of America's largest and most dependable four GL TE networks. And this was the perfect story in our next guest let's see the big man Damien Woody ESPN NFL analyst was the last time if ever you stopped at six French Fries. H very first ball so disappointing goal junior. Really go junior like this whole six drive notion you you really don't. Dropped half a human what do. In other sleep the whole. What yeah well he's one Friday nobody. Like nobody let's use three fingers to like be like I had ample fraud at one time. So does hold six broad notion. The precedent where are and how important he gave that did that teach in our league school home Zell the dumbest thing never and a Harvard. Like a fringe Ivy League school anyway Damon everybody knows that. Really isn't I brought that up is to remind us that Damian is big people those guys that have consumed a lot of Fries. Or doing things that are above and beyond if you wanna sit six is normal that's fine because uncomfortable being abnormal I wanna be better than that I don't want to ever be normal. I wanna be special so were above the six fri nine cents. You Bynum just. I'm no I'm not buying that what I'm not I'm wounded nine none. Give me the salt give me that I give me Soledad the six flaws you can have that I want imports and I let's go from six rise to six birdie. Our local and I know overall baby you'll want what is going on with the Steelers we've talked about this a lot over the last couple weeks you'll and I've talked about it we texted about it. They can't close man what is the deal they they had they they. Fell into that win over Jacksonville then they fell apart. In Denver and then bake in Poland was sixteen point lead at home against the chargers can we trust this to. No we can't trust his team trade I think it's a couple things one. They haven't been able to run the ball consistently. On you can look at that you know Jane Carter. Production has fallen off precipitously. So that's it that's up aspect of closing games and Emmett Till and we've seen we've seen this many times forward Pittsburgh Steelers. They just a lack of a lack of able to it just. Last year in week fifteen against the the New England Patriots the game winning drought we're brawl. Caught like four balls on one drop us like okay do like ball is like the best. Receiving target for the pages and you united in Dublin this guy and it was it's the same thing what what the but the charges. It's just a lack of adjustments. In these teams fun ways to finish games over the Pittsburgh Steelers. And up that is is a mate could bite you could borrow two point what they might mr. wells. James got out this week he said they're gonna go buy her a running back by committee. In their next game. I damion we always talk about when a new coach is gonna take over program for decent amount of time it's been. And then they have to bring along the young quarterback like who's gonna coach baker mayfield if Todd Bowles is Michael same thing about does Sam Arnold. But you have a walking in five years hall of Famer Aaron Rodgers all the sudden doesn't have a head coach what type of head coaching your opinion do they need to get. While that got us some relief to quell I think you have to have somebody. On whom now only has. Got a smile who has command come you know command in a leader of men. Are because with what happens ought to Tom's the one thing worse thing that. As a lineman I hated seeing the quarterbacks. Being elevated above the team. We know that nationally that a quarterback in there that did a leader is but. When a quarterback head when that when there's a perception that the quarterback is is this so much better and everyone else. I think it brings all the bad Bob sought thing when you bring it out of a coach. Number one they have to be leader a leader of men and watched it can play any system he's dead charitable quarterback. But I think is really important for whoever the the Green Bay Packers bring in. That he commands the respect of everyone and hold everyone accountable include Aaron Rodgers. And Damon what are ESPN NFL analyst whether it's on the shell Pennzoil performance line and your team's at right now learn to question about that the cowboys in the Eagles the Eagles getting much needed win the on Monday night and now they go until we get more we know they're gonna face the cowboys and we know this division is still very much up for grabs. It in your mind. In the Eagles do anything to overtake the cowboys that we saw last Thursday night against the saints. I still think the evils eliminated opting to Dallas Cowboys. They can win and it ended in a mall in a mall to multiple Tyrone types of ways to run the ball they can possess the ball. And they showed this enormous things they can play great defense of this mute this cowboys team they're fast on the defense Lucy because saw the football. Able to run the ball that got mark Kubel now Saad who. When he's you know given 101. Our opportunity he can make plays and that press got it seems like ever since that was this in Omar coup was played a lot better so. The Eagles I think cost so what is it this is starting to show some some semblance of himself. From last year when he played at MVP in BP target level but I think some of the deficiencies that we've seen. On from Philadelphia Eagles lack that the lack of a running game I still think is it looms too large often and always figured outcome wasn't in NCs. Yet you look at that game Monday night other 128 to thirteen but as you said Mike was 1413 in the fourth quarter with Mark Sanchez as young as your third or rectal Washington and they really still couldn't put more until late. Or let's go from the Philadelphia Eagles steaming to the team that they beat in Super Bowl 52 that's the New England Patriots to a specific topics for you number one. When you were snapping the ball formed did you ever say oh yeah that Tom Brady thousand yard rusher in the future. How I've never imagined that I mean you talk about a guy who exist. Not athletic at all but you know critic yeah he doesn't I don't know either of them will ever have a bone in his body but the man knows how to play football are listed. Also the patriots after they've given watch out watch out. And who really wants to play the pages right now I don't think I don't think anyone really possibly the patriots because their world machine. You know people always have that they always come with these knows who or small the patriots was going to one they don't have the list and able to do that. The day after Thanksgiving and they start relevant in the form in a playing really good full you know all there and you know I just. This into the number two seed and if it decay as an excuse on Carol full they still got to do what the Los Angeles charges the pages could end up being in the mall once the and every once we'll have to go to fox brought to get to this who ball it isn't just a familiar script fellows. Just curious no doubt about it should get familiar script in Baltimore beat leave Lamar Jackson a quarterback. I don't think you could take a model right now because a he's winning. And B when you look at the wave the Baltimore Ravens were all winning football games. They're playing defense and their run in the full ball now you know it astle if I'm not saying that I can take you deep into the playoffs. Both right now puts a foot John Hall ball. That's able to win you football games when you're able to this man isn't meant it's he gave his boss the passing game to conserve. And play great defense or run the football and use what the Mark Jackson use that ability with his legs. You can win a lot of football game four games that way and odd odds don't see simple and Joseph Flacco are right now while there whether it's a wonderful ball. There's three you know with him as a starting quarterbacks you'll see what happens to Amy you've been so good in this segment were warning you with seven French fry it up. So. So that's 71 YEO's most gets sick is always so good we gave you one more. On the light I mean you are nearly doubled that I do and what we're gonna give these double we're gonna you seven orders of seven front there there there it is okay are okay actor rob would that I've been able talked visit that is what everybody and I just think it is. Kotsay wasn't great sports night last night no doubt about it and lingo what are Dey wanna show one time. I. 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Taking synthetic motor all the former stronghold level make the switch depends on synthetics today. Coach thanks for being with us obviously the raptors dropped to a great start everybody believes you are the team to beat the east. But I got to ask your first and foremost on media day what did you think when you heard this. Yeah that could put a patent. There's I. The last follow men that got a lot of play has produced great that it's great quiet come. Collide like a less is more guys write you do you think he's quiet do you text or funny would he would he does something good like that is straight. Well we were afraid that three did that in government to do is we never hear from him again so I think it. Heavier so we know we're really absolute. Certainty. Until all all that matters is what. Resort on the court and what you're ready you're doing on the court ever fully get to that I mean your first NBA head coaching job assistant there since 2013 but. I love looking at the back stories of coaches I believe your 21 year old grad assistant at northern Iowa. Before you you played and -- you're a player coach in the British basketball league for the derby store model before you're the youngest. College head coach of grandeur 23 years old and then all through the coaching in Europe and the daily which is now the geely. Not your head coach in NBA. What did you take from those early days of coaching whether head coach or assistant that you were still used today as a head coach. Well I was I was just trying to learn how to coach really in and I would I would torture about it if you know let me know all about the end of summer league here any any child care of Turkish. Or or any saying. And I was just trying to get better. I think looking back at all those places and and jobs from Enid Oklahoma to McAllen Texas to Austin Belgium soon. Birmingham England oral or are we stopped it was just a team to coach and trying to win and mold some chemistry in big guys to understand their role in. And you don't play your best best of their ability and I was just practicing knowing you know. And coach in that same line you were an assistant under Dwane Casey who obviously. Just was like go this offseason New York promoted in his stead. What was your message coming into this season with a lot of the same guys you had from last year at an. It just you know about what would be different and what things they could count on from you now has a new era raptors basketball gets started. Well I mean first of all I certainly learned a lot from case man that was my first NBA job and and don't really get my feel well about about the diligence and the competitiveness in the day to day grind which. You know he's famous for you don't toughness and playing defense an old saying that that I learned from him and and you know I don't know we just we've just done. As far as being different way I certainly knew the guys it's just a different personality of power would blend. Some things I saw that that we could keep a lot old over what we've been doing that maybe may be and try to spread our wings a little bit can be a little more vs power certainly our rosters got more versed how much help as well also. Just kind of trying to experiment was some new things and keep what works and blah outlook doesn't well. You've been brought up the right things and keep in the right things as you're out that Tony and five start raptors head coach nick nurse as withers. Because wanna give back to that journey you were talking about from McAllen Texas Enid Oklahoma Birmingham England. People that are coaches. It's your it's wired in your DNA you know it's it's really hard to shut off from we're having this discussion earlier about Urban Meyer who says that 54 he's done he's not coaching anymore. And we'll take him at face value what we also realize that until years sit around and not coaching. It's hard to not scratch that itch. Can you explain to people why you do what you do and you why you go to the links you go through in the place you go just to keep doing. Well how I think there's I think to some wrong which is. Stupid president but I certainly know exactly what you're talking about it. It's just this this is his desire error this bug that you have that. That you know like for me literally speak for myself personally I just. I just always enjoyed. You know give a group of guys together and and you know we're always keeping score so we were trying to win you know like there's like who were playing today it started as a as a little kid again I got five older Brothers and you're completely every every second of the day around the house for everything in your friends together and go to the park couldn't. Winners keep the core and all I can I know it's just kind of discuss the blue whale where I was brought up in my environment and for me. I dislike going out there and seeing if we can't we can't win the game on the day and if we don't we try to learn from it and try to get the next one you know. Raptors head coach nick nurse joining us on the show times Opel former science so we keep talking about your team and how good they are pretty knows coli Leonard Kyle Lowry Serge Ibaka what. Talk about some of the other players what what makes this team so good right now. Well I think if interest imparted and I can destroy us so there's a few times a pat on the back of my head is. There's nobody talked about Klein and Denny Green and joining us this year. Men how big that change would be in that and I said you know I'd bet I'll bet yes sometime during the season they're gonna start talking about Pascal Jiaka Mahmud GM and obedient Fred may have fleeing some of these you know there's still pretty young guys that. But they're gonna make an emergency here and obviously on C outcome has a right EE every time I want to see in the summer. I just I just was seeing him globally leaps and bounds with his compliments them and his game and his skills and and I just was hoping this I didn't think he'd make his biggest splash of this certainly but I thought it would come sometime this season. Oh geez that kind of a rough start was some. Was some things. Missed some training camp for him and Kevin little bit injury bug but. He'll be the next one. Two ten jump onto the scene I think Jim. That's the big thing is is the young guys manner are common in two blossoming into the players they can become. Our enemy mirrors raptors head coach in the show opens over for a site. Coach or got to ask them they were getting ready going all access with you guys gonna be checking in. On the game tonight were holding your pregame routine involves a lot of music you care to elaborate on what kind really goes into it for you. Well it's it's really. That's the neat thing about it is people have heard them into us into music a little bit so I've been getting sent a lot of different playlist and MM bum all over the place with whipped through unless mature and just punched in a couple people that I that I listen to last night it and the size giant of Africa. Thing took to put on my playlist for today that would have performed last night that it never heard overseeing and they were great saw him. And disinterested and all kinds of stuff that whatever the returns beyond for the day. So you're more in the Drake side of the Drake you know we've. I don't. Definitely man draped registration our guys after all I know I'm not so that is the correct answer I'd always have to. I'm just no question about it we'll make it look we love having you on the show well hopefully we'll do it again soon overlook important the all access as well as the game tonight. Against the sixers 8 o'clock on ESP coach thanks for being with us. Thanks very appreciated. Kendall yeah. It was all sort of one big Jaya jello more than variances in we're about why. Go to the window brought to abide dollar shared club dollar shave club delivers the products you use to look feel and smell your best right to your door. Plus with their. The discount analog ones the more you buy the more you say go to dollar share of the dot com slash Bolick. For special offer our goal doing don't really Q Mike goalie Michael junior tray when I go you ready now well the word again we're doing. Each raised rankings last week. How one through whatever UN saints rams chiefs bears patriots that was top 55. It was a chargers five B. Was attacked and tears only one of those teams lost right the number for the bears loss so. I think it's also lost all of circles are charged as well so help me guide if one of these five has a letter after trade you out there we go live once they don't live one thing you know whenever I want winners now want to win so let's go play a number of power rankings let's start. Gentlemen sitting atop the power rankings what the end BP in the NFL playing on defense you'll Los Angeles. Nicole she's like a natural ascension there have been going to number one in your yard about Aaron Donald on the expensive side of the green and I was eight I didn't use him daddy home sort of playing defense inaudible MVP MVP sixteen and have sexy more everything is double teamed. 75% of times a year rams thanks to the wind and clinching the NFC west. Are at number one. So much because. Visiting teams on the short week on Thursday at 311 on the season they read into a buzz on the cowboys' defense are keeping the saints at number two you all of all right yeah speeding now I'm you're dropping out of his car. Well I'm I'm keeping them. Near the top but what I'm saying it's right there we're number one last terrible drop them once hall. Law. Okay with a I don't know fumble OK with that but you'll would you have dropped the refer. Chiefs. There a better team and achieves I think I all things considered I. I think there are better. I just a better team on the way I mean they want to do they not with the idea that they want I was just tempted to keep them up there actually head to head doesn't matter if you're sort of tolerate I guess I have to respect. What the rams have done well rams one loss norms to about one yeah lot of reasons all right and I really don't. Think bias based center button number three. George Kansas City got does she do better got let's go over a scare into amateur is keeping them at three where they were a week ago thank you very much. Obviously they fought through some difficult circumstances off the field with what they had to deal with the time went on the road luckily there claim the raiders of that and that's yeah help that so we know coordinated change Yorkers last week you're number forward the bears. Loss to the giants so are known to be changed Helio. Through this Tommy years when they shined that would be. Your Los Angeles chart. The chart your yes so the charge my NN. Charges have jumped the patriots in your ranking I have only wall act from sixteen points down on the road. At Pittsburg they stick with the running game which is what I laugh about it tomorrow without your best right where no Barack Obama Al Gore this game right Justin Jackson Austin Aqua they had 2.2 yards in the first half rushing they had 83 in the second half even though they were down sixteen I respect anybody that sticks to the running game chargers committed number four the right show it is well within this is the run of show off. And we already know you you ready shore. I think this is pretty obvious where it's going to be oh dude I don't carry out a 100% I think that's obvious clubs. Nor. New wing it campaign trail has either stay right where there were last week and you jumped the chargers over what to somewhat interest income got so there you go rams saints Kansas City. The chargers and New Orleans the top five like I can actually with an hour she we don't have any more room on the table for anyone watch on TV we got a full table five how much right now it's a good clean number don't ruin the dogs two number. It's it's the time of the year where you are what you are drafted that everybody separated themselves I want to tell everybody what's coming up next hour let's move this thing that this week this week I felt like it was 500 do you use vegetable that five U I yeah. I feel that five yeah. Chargers to open knowing I'm seemed to have seen interstate MA. I was I was public that won the taxes of one nighter rowboat that was a team you and I are both kinda has not to begin with I mean we thought for a while the million. Apple still best team in the division so it can't write part mine in top look I agree we've I still think the colts may give McCain this week and the way things. Amanda well. The streak ladies and gentlemen are now and and dual. Eric Snow instead accent. On right now and it's on her show of defiance at this point I'd. What do you say I can't get that microphone I mean if you're ever dies or starred ad letters you would have to have the tax and I could see the body right. He's right it's never happened before in this abduction reporting mental error over the pictures of the children that is. Our grandparents or your children and those teams would want to put this or do miracles to Asia and as the young drivers spent nine game winning streak. It's all about winning I respected. Mike has directed more than what's coming up what do we have next. More Urban Meyer discussion that a couple of great guests and you know it's national title today my head hurts. And doing now. What's not to expect too much there's only one person out there that is effective ways to watch how this guy surely we know that is within his father. I smoking always affected my daily life because I was a closet smoker it really sort of controlled. My entire day. My bosses when the recommended Jules so I decided to give it attract you don't get any of the odor of smoking there's no ash all over your car I would say give it a try. Get the flavor and satisfaction of smoking without the mess of cigarette national lingering odor and switched to jewel chicken JUU well dot com slash sports if you don't smoker rates. Don't start warning this product contains nicotine nicotine addicted cannot home. Todd BJ is with us because officially apparently all on. This grass season it's stress he's already tried to get pumped for Nashville 2019. Pump. Stewart how many tries do you eat in a single setting most importantly. Six French Fries is a freaking joke yeah poor who has six French Fries. It's it's absolutely insane I know and I'd like to compliment to gathered ago dip them. And then catch up and maybe some mayonnaise ever wants it was discussing as that is but I will dip Al general fibers six from together or not be like the one bite. I don't I don't I don't. Not only do you grab five or six together and dip them but you make she's addicted so deep that your fingertips are covered in the cat and a wealth and I think catcher covered French fry and then you'll like your fingertips as well and this is important for Todd because this is going to be a defensive line heavy draft talk gaffe so real when we need to know how many Fries Christian Wilkinson and Oliver are all these guys are willing to eat because these are gonna be the name the names we're going to be hearing of the top of the draft this year right it's going to be Iran on the linemen. Jeff starting probably wouldn't it posts are from Ohio State who hasn't played. Now and then over a month. And he's been training and getting ready and rehabbing for the NFL draft I think he's got a really good chance to be to be a good number one overall pick. And you look at some of the teams that could be picking up there Oakland Arizona. Come to mind a San Francisco's another wondered it that in that range it into the fight for that number one spot if you well. None of them really need a quarterback so it's a year where the there's not a lot of first round quarterbacks and I think you're gonna see a lot of those teams I think Eudora five or six before they even have a good offensive player taken. It's that strong in terms of the defense of fraught. Todd one of the things we saw a couple years ago as Leonard for an actress you McCaffery skip their bowl and everybody was. Name one war going. Not here. And more word only a handful of at least the list and probably growing right now including the MarShon Gary's of the world and that Oliver's of the world. You see this continuing. To go and possibly. Ever leaking into a player from a final four team decided to forego those games. I can't ever see it in a final four game but I'd I'd I do think organ continue to see more and more and that's been the trend. And to be quite honest of their while I I applaud guys that play in the game and I am I you're like this you got competitive spirit. I get it why these young men are deciding not to play in this final game if they don't make it into one of the final four into the semifinals and dude it's because of guys like Jake but Andrew Smith. And I was at both of those games and I talked to both of those players before the game and I love of the game that they have as part of the reason why they're so success successful. And you know we're seeing magellan's Griffin took a couple years but he's finally playing at the level that we hope that he would play out. For the Dallas Cowboys and Jake but still is is not the same yet so. You know you can understand it for guys staring at 125. Million dollars in guaranteed money why they would say you know what. I've done all I can hear it's time noon start getting ready for the draft and I just don't wanna risk. I'm with you a 100% but the nick both the thing is interesting Todd because that's spilled into the season one it looked like Ohio State was going to be one of those teams that had every chance to make it. To that final four play for the national championship will he have to answer questions or an end and may be Ed Albers well who sat out a bunch of games and it was jumping around up before one game were certainly looked healthy. Do you think they'll get the you're really love the football thing scrutiny when they go through there and reduce. I'll just put on the table both of them I bet there are. Very few players there who are sort of the tape. That play harder and give more effort for four quarters in those two guys with Sean Gary's another one and he was being in question. It appears he had an injury and sat out a couple weeks during the season he won up you're coming back and playing like he said he would. But who shot dares another one that just the effort is there on tape so that teams are gonna try to figure out. You know how much they love the game for every single player but I I honestly don't think it's going to be this big issue when it comes to anyone of those three guys. Artist Todd McSherry ESPN draft analysts here and al-Qaeda Berber answered thirty questions about. The upcoming draft and certainly last year's first round was built drama quarterbacks with five album going. This time around you have between Justin Herbert for Morgan Dwyane gaskins Ohio State Daniel Jones from duke probably. The top three here on out for you guys all three could go on the first trump bought. All three could return to school next year if you were to say what are these guys really needs to go back which won't be. All of them. Fight fight if I had I had to pick one I would probably well Herbert probably going to be the first of quarterbacks drafted so. I'd still fatigue leaders more time developing but I'd I'd think that will be even though he said he might go back to school and we'll see what the decision as. But I would say. Probably half skins is the least amount of experience playing. But I'll but it again he could be the second quarterback taken in this class so we seen it before the one year starter rich for Vista becomes the minding. And he certainly they'll start to play you play well for the bears in and continues to develop. But ideally you wanna see these guys have somewhere in the mid twenties to him in north. Thirties and sometimes forty plus games of college experience typically over history to go back and started the trend. Those are the guys that typically have the kind of success in the NFL. How much you think maybe you would these guys and the people around them getting into it to their ear and saying you know what made you don't wanna. Go back to college for another year because next you're gonna be talking about two or talk a vial all logic from former Georgia and others. That they may say goal now while the getting could be good. I think they're probably gonna have that have been if you're an agent that's probably going to be your your pitch to these these quarterbacks because there have been clearly will be a better class next year there are some depth Jordan got through luck for Missouri you've got will Greer from West Virginia. You've got Ryan Finley from North Carolina State so there certainly is depth in this class. But if you're a guy like Justin Herbert who got a much better chance of being the first quarterback taken. This year and staying in the first round and you would a year from now but. Here but I don't go back to. You've got to be ready to play in the NFL and what is what's your best chance forget about where you're being drafted. Make sure when you're and you get in the NFL you're ready to play because all these first round quarterbacks we say they're not gonna play and then they all want to play and so if you go out fault. Four out of your face and you're not ready to play then you're not gonna get that second contract and that's where you're really. When you're comparing money that's where you really make your money in the NFL is that second contract not necessarily be in a mid first round pick. Well look at that's a great point and and two to the issue of getting in there while all the may be the draft class quarterback is down. I have two words Mitchell too risky right at me people like questions about him thirteen starts. Guess who was the first quarterback taken that draft now he thought that he was that guy despite all the limitations topics is with us. And we're officially kicking off draft cease and says Ron quarterbacks when asked about another one who will be in the college football championships. The semi finals at least and that's Cairo Emery look we know he's got a four point something million dollars to play baseball. His size is going to be an issue if at some point he wants to try to play football. What do you think his real ceiling is if at some point there's like these guys like hey nurse that tight end. A for the ravens tried to be a baseball player went back and and in played college ball South Carolina and now it was a first round dropping to the ravens this past year. What do you think his actual ceiling is as a football player in the NFL. I think it could be a first round pick and I think you'd be good starting quarterback in the NFL. The trend is is going more towards that you know taller isn't necessarily better anymore it's about quick twitch getting the ball out. Being able sued to operate. With fast guys and then being able to extend plays and create their feet and that's just how the league does is it developing in. And trending and I think we're start to see more more teams not really caring about the size in the spread is it's become a positive not a negative anymore so. I think there're some teams that are are gonna be behind the times that this. But if you start to look at the offenses and the way the revolving. This is the kind of quarterback it is is the future of the NFL and we're seeing more and more of it now. I stood next on my guess is he's probably rate around 510 maybe just shy. But at the end of the day he's the fastest quarterback I think I've ever seen in person. And he he had the arm to make all the throws he was so efficient this year and he just he gets it in terms of the leadership and just handling pressure he's been brilliant throughout the whole year was just like this flat line I love that about. Now we're we're we had Lincoln Riley on to have fun try to talk him back into coming back for another year and Jaco play some baseball where America sold so much money. Opposition talk I'd like. Over the years you've been doing this that is changed a bit that's why I'm back you look at guys like Devin bush and Devon White. And I don't mean the outside backers like a Josh Allen you know these smaller guy he's Ed Rogers I mean. Linebackers middle linebackers and such how they've changed it now you get linebackers that don't come off the field anymore. Now being that it's the weekend you've got to be able to stay in your personnel sets and personnel groupings and it's not a league now we're we're seeing it in a team's lineup in and a lot of power formations and run the ball right after. Not nearly as much as is Reid have. I've been seen in previous years and so what you need is a guy that can place up on the sideline who can cover who can help in that could pass rush. Andrea the college game is developing those guys and the NFL game is is bring a man and and you know utilizing a but I think Devern Bush's. Is a perfect example both those guys bush and white are are perfect examples of today's NFL linebacker and I think they're gonna be a first round picks and I think they're going to be standouts at the next level. Topics say wizards were kicking off dress season which again will take place. Over the ESPN and ABC family of networks oh in the last week in April national were excited about all that is going to be a huge celebration. You know we talked a lot add that this time last year Todd about Houston's at Oliver and how he might be the first player taken in now you think you might be leaning toward nick boasts a is it just that. Things have changed and you you saw what you like from nick or are there are some questions about add that maybe we didn't have a year ago. I think the biggest question with an exercise. I did you know when you look at it you talk to scout troop have been in there. People seem to think he's probably more around 2727375. Pounds somewhere not range so it. How are you gonna use him. You know it and everyone wants to compare to error Donald IC I see some parts of them that are earned Donald but he doesn't have a hand usage the slippery miss or the finishing ability. The Donald has as a pass rush so. You're getting a great run stopper they disruptive pass rusher but not a noted finisher. And a guy that you got to figure out where utilized him did you could you line them up a defensive tackle. 5060. Times a game when he's only 27275. Pounds so. It took me a few balls at all outside the top ten it will be everything to do have everything to do with the size issue and they're not about what happened and that the sideline of that game with. A major apple. And also play issue in all honesty all the comparisons earned Donna doesn't finish like Aaron Donald least at this point you don't gamble seek. About the next level how about offensive line to topple linemen I I believe Lotta people have if the kid little from Mississippi York. Jordan Williams attack from demo but not many people think you'll be playing left tackle. In the NFL what went where are we were though Lyman in this class. Yeah there's some depth in this group it's a better group it was a year ago Greg Little has been a lot of tools to develop it can be a good starting left tackle in the league he needs some work. But of his big long and athletic. Jordan Williams as you mentioned you could be moved in to guard could be right tackle. Maybe you could work out at left tackle but he's been a very consistent solid player with great game experience coming out of that Alabama program. And I fully expect him to be a first round pick as well we could have bet I'd say 34 offensive tackles the wanna coming off the board in the first round depending on which these underclassmen. Decide to leave early. Public stay with us as were kicking off draft season because shore in December. I'm running ninety got to you know me I'm all for it gets earlier and earlier every year that that that just means more U big boy check out the NFL draft primer funniest induct job with Mallon to audience of the thirty most pressing NFL draft questions. And this is always the swing position to me. I've taught in the draft. Running back we had sake on Barkley taken second overall by the giants and he has lived up to expectations. And then you have a guy like Philip Lindsay who wasn't drafted at all and he's he's only what twelve yards behind sake one at this point. This this isn't yet this position continues to be the weirdest one to draft as U. You get home runs late Z can you get home runs alike say Kwon and then you find an album Tamara in the third round or undrafted guy like Philip Lindsay. Where do you see the running backs in this draft and where should they be drafted. This is not a great group you know the last few years have been unbelievable going back to it to talk girl is here. Seems like we've had two or 31 rounder is that a bad panned out. In the NFL. And now you look this year breaks loved it probably instilled. The top back Damian Harris from from Alabama would be right there with them I think Paris is probably. A little bit more complete in terms of yes the size and he didn't he's catches the ball I think a little bit better the bright slope was undersized. And he's been OK catching the ball but really has not been a major factor in that. And that aspect of it and then I think David Harris also can provide a little bit more in terms of protection pass program. Then Bryce love so love is more explosive but terrorists I think is a little bit more complete in terms of the NFL game. I won't surprise me if neither gold the first round or they want to goal late in the first round. Will surprise me though it is we see either of those three guys in the top fifteen hit yeah. I mean it's it's just so bizarre many of nick Joseph was the second round pick he's doing great things for eligible browns would all the rookies they got. Todd it is never too early to start. Draft at all. They have all. Led war Joseph Lieberman's mind hello reported talking you'll lot as the as the weeks and months ahead brother talked me sooner right. Our old hundred best you have. The best of broken window podcast. You can listen or subscribe on ESPN at apple podcast boy. Just ask your Smart speak to play goal. Like kindling Dell plus you can check the guys out live weekday mornings from 6 to 10 eastern on ESPN radio and on ESPN news. My name is Lauren I'm 33. I didn't want my identity. To be the smoking mom my first experience with jewel I do remember. Being like this is good it's it's it's like a cigarette at nine. I don't miss smoking at all like I can officially say it grosses me out. 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