Winning Isn't Enough

Dec 6, 2018|

Adnan Virk in for Mike Golic. The guys talk about Kevin Durant's comments on LeBron James with Tim Legler before talking baseball with Buster Olney and more.

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And our straight talk is about a bunch of yes if you ask me why are coming not from somebody Kevin Durant told Bleacher Report repute or you can box. That's stars don't wanna play with LeBron and we've seen this play out over the offseason move saying quote in this article it depends on what kind of player you war. If your Kyle Korver then it makes sense because Kyle Korver and lamp was the bulk of the offense and he's not a number one option at all not even close. So his talents benefit more from a guy who can pass and penetrating get him open will brunt. If you're younger player like cool why trying to pair Emma LeBron James doesn't really make sense. Why enjoys having the ball in his hands controlling the offense dictating the tempo was post ups it's how he plays the game. A lot of young players are developing that skill they don't need that guy close quote. There's a lot to get into. In that one thing first of all let's let's bring in our eight ESPN NBA insider aid rewards now ski who basically says yeah what what. Katie said to Bleacher Report there's truth into it into how people feel. Kevin Durant talked about the on court impact. Of playing with LeBron James but off the floor I mean here's the conversation amongst our players' agents lead executives is. They learn this especially from his time in Cleveland. And even Miami when your wit LeBron James senior waiting he's going to get the credit. When you don't win you're going to get the blame and elite players want to have a major voice in the organization in the front office. Carrier me didn't have that in Cleveland that was part of the reason that made him want to leave. LeBron James get traded he ends up in Boston Paul George chose not to play. With him these are all factors that the lakers know our issues and hurdles is they go into July free agency okay. The couple things here into one. He's wrong and I think all that comes with a I I don't think. He's wrong and nearly Kevin Durant is wrong. In the end up in the points they're making about playing with a broad view when you're a superstar you wanted to be alpha males might get the fact that you see LeBron James he's such a great plans to be present is that wall. I want deferred anybody out to be the guy. Having said that LeBron is not a selfish player I know he's been criticized his entire Korean too deferential correct so it's not like he's a guy Russell once again got a couple that got him he's a ball hog and a pain goes into the black hole that never comes out right LeBron is actually and so Elvis he'll distribute the ball he'll get me where I need to get. But if all the young star at least 25 toys mostly seven as this is 33. Assays and the prime of his career the obvious he's not in the blue barrel under gathered for. 34 LC I mean I get help from a young superstar playwrights are right this guy's logged a ton of miles he's 34 years old. I don't wanna be the second banana at him you what else comes with LeBron. Winning correct that that's the part that seems tube get lost in all of this okay. Wherever he goes you going to win that he's been. I'm indisputable okay. I don't care how many championships team the more he wins maybe woods and doubled to me is indisputable or in dispute I had. I can careless they'll look at that you know kind of raise your daddy LeBron still 33 turns 34 December I apologize I've got these standards we turned 34 that would it is that's an. OK so get a couple weeks I was off that's not that's not ten minutes ago it could work days notice of that packet that is ready and as that we are not so let's. I don't. You know thank you he knows of because we embrace it we art you can. I. Less from a man's stance honestly you corrected me Toys 'R' Us said then came back and that's exactly right that's what makes it Betty it's great it's beautiful we didn't swallow the pettiness on this show. But to meet no matter what LeBron does going forward. What are his greatest achievements ever was last year and he dragged that team. That carcass I mean drag. That team to the finals into idol OJR Smith that a close and gay want. Actually might about a chance in that event finals and he it's what's on the resume its greatest meanwhile all I don't. So don't. You have to factor that into this when you're giving all the ancillary. Garbage right about playing what LeBron did only a you know what if I do put them odds are we're gonna win a blanked on the games. And that seems he had lost in the equation and the way for Kevin Durant a ball people yeah to come out and saying yeah colluded in joined forces with the current. Time I mean come on really right. You'll you'll play with them really OK Buddy Lazier view up hash tag burner count. You know hash tag I eyed guy have to have built all the superstars Remy I. I have said on record before I've no problem with them doing what he did you wanna win you wanna go play the best go for get a better job to available more might make X or solace of indigenous to be the best you would do it right but. All these people will. These sensitive guy is a mean you're playing with step you're playing with clay you play with dreamland kind of maybe sort of not talking much wonderment to play with a but you've surrounded yourself without these superstars and you're saying it's a problem to go play with another superstar okay how but the fact on the brunt of the criticism that. I can carry out what we got here better than it has announced big into the library nervous were all well I'm here sort of defending LeBron all Muslims of the goes along with Eminem or we're going to go here LeBron was asked about it this is what he had as a. Subversive he's the comments and questions that were asked about their work will be available personally do not fought. We'll pass the personal space. And and I think whoever. I have a huge workload I got enough soldiers or what I'm. It doesn't matter from the hood hubble's most important is not too much he makes me you shot a full court. Result makes pierce through and left corner. I know who's making the plays down the stretch as well. Just as multiple millions careless about they narrative about music. Doesn't have homes they could understand sort of the. Now in keeping with us being. You need to point out when you say I can care less you could care a lot less right so basically what you're saying is I care a lot. Wit that's not what he meant obviously I can care less great Carol less than how much less can you are so. What he was dry the idea good guys couldn't care less means it means nothing to me right but I felt since I had to correct you won't be corrected after is that what is aides was that there was a board to show that we understand how petty we are what we do these kind of thing it's a good turn of phrase I'm sure people you know ripple out on the real well it's like the phrase and we've uses with goalie. You can't have you can have UK he needed to yes you can you can have your cake and then you can needed to hit each case could still have people. All you Americans get it wrong you always that you can't have your cake and you know you can do that you can't teacher take instill so that that's a cellular life from parliamentary procedure are you out. The things jeweler for like me to be the greatest things with you to learn some things about life. Up towards our third does it just Gilligan and Arthur take my hand but that would leave you with one he got entire movie. Is a is the greatest a cop accomplice of one liners may be able to accept for airplane airplane is right up there. Collectively goes. Great link George Michael seeing here. Buster or tell us just how good this deal is for the card has taken a Paul Goldschmidt and his bat not a stolen bases but as bad. Yeah and you know terrific defenders well they needed a middle of the order hitter to augment that line up at and look this this was a great opportunity for them because he's the Diamondbacks. Indicated it seems to beginning the offseason that they were very much opening the idea trading Goldschmidt they didn't have a lot of places to. To go because a lot of the contenders have already killed the first base spot sold for the cardinals it was absolutely a buyer's market you know they give up three players form. But in terms of his. He immediate impact. That he could have on the cardinals' next year in a really competitive National League central it's exactly what they needed it does raise some questions I think about how they'll handle this defensively can now Matt carpenter. Has been at first base in recent seasons that move over to third base. But like you said bosh or Saint Louis to massive upgrade and now listen the cubs last year. Got pushed by the brewers to play the wild card game Milwaukee's uncle always we know we Ellis in BP this now appears zero wish wrong three horse race right essential which in the cardinals the cubs and the brewers. Yeah I would agree with you and I've heard from agents that they feel like it that the National League central teams. I generally speaking have been some of the more active teams you know the reds also are out there is trying to do things as well. You know the cubs are not gonna do that much because they're bumping up against their payroll limitations you're trying to be creative they're telling other teams that are open to talking about some of the young position players in a way that they hadn't been before so we'll see how they responded yeah and the cardinal strategy as well as proven from the past they'd like to get in these stars as they near free agency like a guy like. A Mark McGwire a guy like Matt Holliday. Because they believe that the player will fall love but the market in the and they consign them to an extension to this isn't. Just talk ultimate drop in and for one year perhaps. Well that that's the bigger issue is boss role he joins us let let's go to their for a second because I think there's two sides this one. It's pretty clear that they wanna try and make him fall in love with Saint Louis as you know as you well know buster a lot of people duke is that as a baseball rabbit town it's not. It aide just a baseball town it's a baseball rabid town so that's what they're trying to do and this is also clear indication that Arizona was never gonna sign him right. No and net look at me we're seeing in baseball last year's team did not want to invest in players in the early mid thirties the metric exception with Robinson can no. It's just there's a belief. That there's a lot more risks there. And there's also I think in baseball a trend of stay out of the middle this is what the Seattle Mariners had done you know they want 89 games. And he's still an expert to fourteen gain data in their division until they decide you know what we're not in be good enough to catch the Astros were not going to be good not to catch you athletic so we might as well go to the other extreme and I think that's what the Diamondbacks are doing as well they're looking at their division and we're not good. Good not to catch the Dodgers. We have to. Try Q get our payroll in order we have to try to build up the farm system. And you know Jerry part of that general manager of the of the Mariners said last winner it's feels like there's almost. Much of a race for the number one pick in the draft in baseball these days as series for the top of the divisions in the teens are. Trying like crazy to boy that middle ground and that's with a that it actually do with a straight. Talk robust dollar right now goal going you spin rate and used in two. Stick to the sixers won forty. How has this all come about the nationals pitchers thing. The whole thought as to what snapped when Bryce Harper and they still could resigning him. But Corbin represents a real upgrade is now you look at that that threesome of which prospering scherzer and toner Rourke as a four that's awfully good rotation. It's a great rotation and add and the national separated themselves by being willing to give Corbin is secure in the offer because. But he relies so heavily on his slider last year 43% of the time he threw a slider second highest rate baseball. To order and 46 strikeouts and 200 innings. But you guys know slider is not a double friendly pitch and so one the other came to Philly the Yankees were told that he is gonna get a secure I don't even know they actually formally made offers. Because they felt like they couldn't compete with that I think the strategy of national general manager Mike Ritz has been very interest staying. As he's gone about his business is wonderful feeling hold on that roster. I think he understands lucky eat the nationals are gonna make another run to keep Bryce Harper. That's the decision over his pay grade that the decision it's going to be made by ownership in the national ownership as a unique relationship with Scott Boras who represented harper and somebody the other nationals players. So Mike Rizzo is doing everything he can't make the roster better and at Indiana the winner mores. Nationals ownership get together on a bright start reveal the all the better for for Washington but Riddell I think upgrade the roster where he can and controlling what he can control. A buster only with us again bustle being Las Vegas next week for via MLB winter meetings a look let's stick with that with the nationals here for a second that I wanna get into that the Yankees and where they maybe look for pitching. Buster you have let's look at what they have those those three pitchers now. And let's say they find a way. It's a re signed. Bryce Harper over that 300 million pretend that he was offered. On let's say they get close to that 315 number. Then you're talking about four players. On the nationals. That would be over 800 million dollars or does it. In a salary and whose annual we talk a lot about well heeled the ratings are down in baseball and attendance is down. Business doesn't seem to be down in any way shape or form. No and that's what I keep telling people say you know you get the inevitable when their World Series that game five ratings are down baseball died oh really what do you think it hang beat dot com or colors are. Coming from someplace it's not a case where you've got thirty baseball owners who running security institution to be capped at millionaire ballplayers. This morning doing really well I think if we just have to stop looking at a traditional ways by only focusing on attendance. Odd focusing so much and television ratings I clearly when he saw box. Re upped with their deal with Major League Baseball expanded out after they they saw the same rating that we did it tell you baseball it's writing the players and making on average more money than they ever have before he Jamaican a lot of money. Yes they got James Paxton is Basra only as weather's. They got Jay's Paxson. From from Seattle but the Yankees just on the market for pitching what is the market where will they be looking out of the didn't get Corbett. Yeah and trade their strategy when they trade for back and let you know what let's get this guy now this will be the big. Dog of our off season lol lol upgrade the rotation with him. And that takes pressure office in other conversations. So when the court in thing is going down they don't feel like they have to extend themselves whose six year. Need an evolving it looks like in the back to the Boston red fact they don't necessarily have to chase him. The best trade option on the table or those three guys with the Cleveland Indians keep Cory clover Trevor Bauer Carlos grasp of the need to be cleared by the team look we'll talk about these guys they light any team interest didn't want them to take one of the contract softer bucks eighty Jason Kidd missed. No that certainly is a way the Yankees can go JA happ is still out there although it looks like he's become a focus for the Philadelphia Phillies and into. Other way you can go out here the Yankees Egypt's state look at their as we move along get through the winner they're not as many great options in the free agent market. He released market eats accurately that last winter we elect 25 relievers issue we have like 68. Like twelve. A mark closers the Yankees could say. Week it's kind you know 23 of those guys in the Andrew Miller. You know pictures like that upgrade the rotation and of course the big X-Factor for the Yankees and it feels like a line in the week's game it's got out. That's a way to upgrade your pitching by adding we had the best available defender and let study appealed. Yeah on the shot a little bit actually enormous you know yankees fans are clamoring for that box derive fine fasting has conversation about. Defensive shifts we know our friend Mark Teixeira despises it and Germany hitters are torso pull heavy hate the fact it's changed the game is there a chance. In a much like yeah me legal defense and masked ball long ago that all the sudden Major League Baseball you'll get together and Sarah right. It lets outlaw the ships or modify them because they have obviously changed the game completely. There's no question Qaeda is coming we talked about this all summer friend Jason stark wrote a great piece said yesterday in which illuminate is that the the momentum for this. In one way or another I think something's coming and you know in talking resources yesterday the indicate the they're basically. That the most. Favorable move at this point is to say let the audience feel we gonna have two guys right the infield you have to have two guys were not gonna have the situation. Possibly if they move ahead with that we're gonna have three guys on one side of the infield but the interesting thing is you mentioned you know what they get together with the union I feel like the relationship right now the working relationship between European Major League Baseball the worst that I've seen since the mid nineties while and you guys saw last spring how when they made this change only six mound visit. Baseball sort of tiptoed in as that we like to do theirs and the union completely disagree publicly. I think that after what happened with that situation it would not surprise me if next. You know and when we get to February. You Mikey Major League Baseball stepped in and say look you don't like what we did last quarter. We can't work out an agreement with you know we're just getting implement and maybe get a bet the kids support that made it. Hitchcock is part of that it's going to be really interesting to see. If there's any kind of change net working relationship between the two sides. Or buster that's fascinating on a couple levels and there's a lot to get into their because to me. Changing and I know Mike is sort of a spouses when it comes to free throws and hack A Shaq kind of things but to me. Getting rid of the shift how about just learning to hit the opposite way right and I don't know what's wrong with a bat and I mean why why don't if you if if if they know what you're going to do how are you just get better at your job that seems to be. Some that would make more sense in changing the rule to a comedy these guys who can only. But at the integrity. Great description yesterday from a baseball person you like it that they would you know very well. He did you know the most stubborn creature on the world is in the in the in the world. That the Major League hitter that these guys right now are locked into the idea I'm gonna do damage. And I'm gonna try to drive the ball and that doesn't mean hit the ball the other way because there's a feeling among players. That just doesn't pay to slap singles Tony went style through the opposite. Inside the infield and we have not seen progress in that regard especially against the the increasing velocity we're seeing in Major League Baseball. So I think it is. I don't like changes another sport this is in an effort on being part of on behalf of Major League Baseball who helped hitters and we'll see if they Paltrow I think they will once former another. Well and then if they do that then it becomes the single you're doing one thing. And editing and do something else with a pitch clock that's sort of counterbalance each other because if you get away. From the shaft you're not shortening the game. You're extending the game and then they gonna wanna have to pitch count in the Hitchcock to try and shorten the game those two things seem to be incomplete loggerheads with the job. Well I think it. They want increase up and they want increased pace of action because that it's amazing to me how many people he talked to in the game school safety you looked. With all the strikeouts with these are the decrease in offense. Our big game we're all pitching changes they feel like that the game is really dull for example and the same baseball person certainly look we have to think you know this eighteen inning game in the World Series. Last year in during the course of the game it felt like everyone just couldn't wait for to get over and that should have been something that people would have inspired people next everyone's talking about it instead it was we didn't baseball circles. Man that was a track like and that was a long haul without a lot of stuff going on and I think that's what baseball want to change. Buster I'm so glad you brought that up because when we get a chance to discuss this when it happened but when that World Series went down the first thing that went through my mind is. The thing that the surest will remember most about this World Series is that game. And to me that game was everything that's wrong with the baseball no one is going to sit and seven and a half hours be invested. In in that process and to meet you or change something trying to figure out a way to avoid that going forward. And the pitching changes which guy you know as we go along here because teams now are. Are you know they they're following the plot the look even if it's say a lesser pitcher if you bring any guy who's throwing really hard. For shorter stint at time that's more effective and that's where the match to take and send it. It didn't eat those metrics are indisputable. But I don't think it's gonna inspire a generation of fans to have like a run of a parade of relievers that they don't know coming into the did it become into the game and and I think that's. Apart what's being discussed. Due to changes that Buck Showalter old friend had a great idea. Last week and he speaking city hey let's tied it TH to the way pitchers are used giving DH stall thirty teens but when it. These starting pitchers taken at a yankees lose mediate. Incentivizing. The idea of keeping it starting pitcher in the game which is something I think the sport really needs to get away. From the parade of relievers are saying. Nobody in setter bust only right now goal going used in greater ease into check of the based ultimate podcast will buster and apple podcast is an app will last one for a buster. Bryce Harper laments the fact he still could go back the nationals the Phillies have said the Michael stupid with the money. I know this is subject to change when our meetings are coming your best guess now where does Bryce Harper ago. I would bet that Pamela Gorman Vermont that the Phillies are gonna wind up with either Manny and chowder or Bryce Harper so one of those guys see he's gonna wind up there are I think that doctors their title line in the weeds someone on Bryce Harper I know they're looking for an outfield upgrade I just don't know what Andrew Freeman noted that the baseball ops features and spending that kind of money to fight to pick. Pick one team as a two day I would pick the Phillies I've posed that question a lot of baseball executives who were still guessing it in the and it'll be the nationals would step out and sign a. Follow up question that then what do you think the dollar amounts gonna because he turned down 300 million. Well and and about that too we don't know how much that was the deferred that we knew we know that the nationals also indicated that they were not interest you need to opt out. Clauses within the contract during the course of the deal. Two that was a really different. And type of contract my guess is. Is that when their captors how it's done dressing it up with a lot of bells and whistles it'll be something in the range of 350 million dollar. All right that's a lot of bells and whistles got a cluster we appreciated. Have fun in Vegas next weekend have you gotten past your vikings losing a file it's a brutal. I don't even like talking about it OK I'm not happy about this to not called and asked her parents played against the vikings receivers. This is why he's about a lot of it's not an all bluster we appreciate it man have bubble talk to you soon. I tell you what a great sports night last night no doubt about it and lingo what are Dey wanna show what kind it's. If your smoker. 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A NAFTA and we always figured out not just laser Zimmerman back never been better in here OK let's oil book and it's Michael junior tribute to multiplying your hot take by just saying book get. Mike is not here he's nursing that hang over with routine right now I would imagine. So Debbie is gonna be a book reader Debbie are you ready. I'm ready let's hope an all star will join LeBron in the lakers this summer book so again Kevin Durant came on the Bleacher Report aren't listening to all star wants to play with LeBron. Says the all star who want to play with for the all stars which I find interesting so well an all star. Join LeBron a summary your book and I have a book without question LeBron is aware of the lakers are gonna. Win a playoff round if not more so yes and ostracism hurdle brought enjoy La La land. Op on a book it is well I can and I think number of I thought I think also the may join him. Will be Kevin Durant. I think this is all set well I think this is all a setup for Kevin so we ease his way awful one super team needs as well I don't know stop the madness and ago. As I take what do you got next Major League Baseball should be in defensive shifts book. Never Mel paid hitters. Better. We have David Ortiz we talked about this and wants as well. It's hard. Okay thanks I don't know what's going hard and what do John if we choose to go to the moon not because it is easy because it is odd at all so let's go there we don't what else we got. Urban Meyer albeit head coach again board. Book it is we'll get. Yeah I know Kirk herb street says he believes and he's never coaching again it's like a football players says they retiring in March now. You eat that you find out retire when June rolls around you don't wanna go to training camp again. A lot of not booking because of the fact he's had these headaches he's been so much has climbed the mountain but he's only 54 runs he'll coach again Mack Brown's coaching at the age of 67 XT these guys it's in the blood never stop but you can book at him walking. Year last write me if I did it Jan five years he is definitely going if you do is you can't switch it off right it's these guys are wired to be coaches it's part of their DNA we had nick nurse on yesterday that there is talking about his journey across the globe where including play due Birmingham England for crying out loud as a coach but he's going to coach again you just can't help yourself. Aaron Rodgers will win another Super Bowl look it. Now and not book in this. I know he's and a whopping contract by around the Packers are ready to contend the next couple seasons. The ironic that classes here at a McCarthy's the fall guy. But to win a Super Bowl takes a lot and I don't they care Rogers has enough weapons are enough time to make an app made plays five more years an elite level the Packers are to be the best team of Opel ex fighters listen football as the hardest sport to predict because of the injury factor. We saw that last year with the Eagles who somehow made it work despite all those losses on I'm and I'm at a book because I just I don't think. On the top recorder Rex the next five years. And I think they realize we need to go all in on our window I think they're going to change the way they do business. Especially bringing in free agents something they never really do on the book. Carla Marie will win the Heisman Trophy on Saturday put it this is ago when I'm gonna book married to a mile line I. Here at one point he did this and seen a ratio of like. They can play in a fourth quarter write run on the in completions were like minimal it was a single digits and you through five games of the season. But the fact he was slowed by injuries and didn't play as much in the fourth quarters betrays one because they're always killing teams at Palomar it was phenomenal especially late. Voters look at the fact elected the big twelve chairs a game against Texas I guess West Virginia I calmer winds. I feel bad for tour because I think Alabama's success went against him here. Because if he had played more and fourth quarters the numbers he would have put up would have dwarfed everybody and it hurts he was hurt in that SEC champ ship came growers had to bail not against. Good to bail out Alabama and enjoy and play well that night was not playing well before that I'm a book for Kyle emerge because usually play tonight. If if to had played an actual season he would run away with the Heisman Trophy. Finally hosting the Oscars is the hardest job in show business booked a Kevin Hart will host the 91 Academy Awards in February 2019. I say no as one of the hosts a guy. That's the live stream available. I don't think it's that difficult you'll love movies if you love entertain you loved show business it's a passion it's fun. It's sure that you separate criticism expressed in today's world and overlooks the ratings Al Campbell's numbers were down last year but you can't focus and the result actual doing the job. Is a ton of funneling its hard I think it's a blast Billy Crystal there eight times it has allowed it's hard. I am gonna book dead because you can look at what makes it hard is the scrutiny. I'm you can actually do the job well but at the ratings fall flat it doesn't matter if you did the job what people consider you a failure I love the Wii like you know I. I also host via Skype peninsula and an alternative academy yeah people know me I won best picture of central and has won best extract. All of the drop of how we have to pull play the next OK if I I. I'd think that this the scrutiny is what makes it hard is doing it hard no but no big deal ton of criticism that your going to get regardless is what message this job Steffi gonna be up before the jets. And really yeah. It was all sort of one big giant yellow molded very interest in where that's why. And likely ESPN NBA analyst joins us in studio giving us the straight talk brought to buy straight talk wireless best phones best networks. No contracts intent Timmy before you straight talk makes our Canadian friend at and very happy he still likes let let's go with the straight talk or maybe not straight talk from Kevin Durant and his thoughts on. Players and why they don't wanna play with LeBron basically say is. You know if you wanna develop your game and you wanna have the ball it's not good to play with LeBron you wanna be an all star player you wanna be the best. You believe that. No I don't believe it I understand his point to a certain extent I think. It does apply to certain guys and it applies to say Chris spot should apply to a Kevin Love to a certain extent even a car every Irving. Armed. Like when you talk with the team he's on now the situation doesn't apply LeBron James at this stage we did what career correct at this stage his career. What is he supposed to do go out there urges direct traffic and let these guys unisource determine the outcome of games. And he's Russa stepped back just so they can grow that's not gonna happen he wants the best of both roles he wants to win the got lakers brand knowledge chest but he obviously. Also once these guys to develop and you have a better IQ for the game a better understanding of what it's going to take to win at this level so I think he I think he balances are pretty well. On all things considered China I think it's. Unfair. The headline what that looks like we see LeBron and toxic in the same sentence I just thought that was a really. Unfair characterization. So do you think an all star will go play well LeBron is offseason yeah I think an all star won't we'll go play with a now will that be necessarily. Why Leonard and I don't know you know it depends on what you want as a player and what is most important you if you're a guy who thinks hey you know what. I can be the guy driving the boss and get us to a title that you might not wanna do that but some guys they might say hey you know. Why would LeBron James gonna give you the best chance of competing for a championship putting a ring when your finger at that he's a sacrifice. Something statistically. Then I'm gonna go do that and and everybody's gonna make that decision for themselves think I read he got a taste of that and then he said you know what. I think I am good enough to go to a team and lead them so he he left LeBron after four years but it all depends on the individual player but there's no question in my mind. Some all stars are gonna wanna go play when LeBron because what that all of the ultimately could mean for you your legacy your resume and it putting their jewelry and hand a lot of winning comes with LaBroque. And I do get it it's probably look. All of those guys throughout history. They're not the easiest in the world for everybody to play with there are certain things that you have to buy into completely. On a you have to adjust and some guys are carved with that some guys aren't put to. To insinuate that you know this is toxic for the younger players reserve not to go to grow. Well then you're going to be a mediocre team for the next three to four years do you want that 31 win you'll sign LeBron James or was she wanna try to win right now that I can win a championship this year. But these guys are gonna grow and in some nights like last night LeBron put it on himself like this is again we can't lose the spurs are struggling. I'm gonna win this game basically by myself for the fourth quarter which pretty much would that. Talk with him let the right now goal going or is premier news in news raptors besting the MBA showcase game last night against the sixers likes maybe the top two teams in the east. All axis and draw all day. Why was phenomenal it just shows again why massager were so Smart that move because worst case Eric why leaves after this year. OK fine you get cast least I get over the pros and Contra which is bloated. On the court alone clearly seem like why is a significant improvement over DeRozan Larry's plane out of his mind lead the witnesses see that usually come into his own. And this team feels like an old articles state. But they clearly feel it the best in the east which some of the raptors cannot say they've done in the past and look at times but this team feels different pulpit they do it at the start of the year there were some teams locked together at top Boston Toronto Philly was in that mixed down Milwaukee's been even better than. I think we thought Indiana was gonna be there with me that doesn't keep you talked about. Toronto separated themselves is significant gap in last night it was a competitive game. What you saw all truly differences between two teams and that is Toronto deepest team in the NBA. Toronto has eleven guys playing fourteen more minutes it got more playmakers than any team in east. I'm maybe the exception of Boston. Boston we know starting to get their act together and you're gonna hear a lot from them to get to Toronto Raptors the second half of the season. And Philly. Don't incomplete team they're not deep enough and on certain nights event B doesn't play well. Jimmy Butler doesn't score for them where they can have a hard time we don't you have it that's not the case necessarily with Toronto they're being games this year that they have one when Kuwata Lennar. Has done so many other things to beat you within her reach shooting night. Because they've got so much help and they get along with the raptors they've developed their younger players look at the improvement of a C Acco van fleet. And in no B this year and on the ground offensive player right to all those guys are energy guys yet another also contributing offensively at a much higher level. That's that's to me that's a sign of a great organization. You get guys in house don't younger players have to get better to give you the depth that we're talking about and that's what they have done. And last night legacy it was competitive game which you saw the difference between two teams and for me. Why letter showed you last they why he is the best player in the conference and when you're the deepest team and you've got the best player. Then to be there's a significant gap between you and everybody else right now but again. Even I'll Boston and that she was filly does if they add anybody because I think last night showed that they look frustrated they look like or we're not in this the same league as this team. And people expect us baby can T compete to get that a final this year. Were you when you go head to head with the UC. They came up small when they needed to and even effort things yeah I think it was a little bit of of a gut check last night for Philadelphia they I'll look at themselves in the mirror. And organizationally they got to see what they might need to try to go find between now and say the trading deadline if they really wanna compete with. Toronto Boston this year or they still a year away. Him Lloyd Lewis and studio given us a straight talked him I want it back to the LeBron thing real quickly because. You Kevin Durant is obviously guy who's extremely talented he's one of the top three players Italy there's no question about that on but he is a sensitive dude. And these comments that were on Bleacher Report does that say more about Kevin Durant there's some more about LeBron. It's it was just the whole thing hit the out of absolute last just weird dry out by comets. Yeah I literally had to I had to read the comments probably five times to really China understand. What's your point I don't understand exactly which is saying to do is band aid straight off annals of the ultimate. Goal of any. Athlete. Is to win a championship and LeBron James has given teams that he's played on. A chance to do that eight years in a row so I don't know exactly. What his overall. Point was and to me it's also I love Kevin Durant right I'd really do but it's. It's it's strange to make the comments when you made the decision that you did. To go to a TIQ I was ready made to win and now you won you know Coppola titles in a row that teams won three of wearers it's. It's just a little bit strange timing and the overall context of LeBron Lotta credit because they put a miked for him but instead I'm either common or because. That doesn't sound right to me I got to talk to Canadian fight at the full context of it rather it some sound boy or some headline. Did you see. LeBron and toxic in the same sentence if you're LeBron you wake up you read that. Like what. So I give you broad credit he did is obviously you know what that's of them I can comment on what you guys try to do let me talk Qaeda is exactly what he meant by that as a whole thing to me. Very bizarre. And the other thing is. Mean KD did play with someone like that in terms of Russell Westbrook he wanted to get back out of theirs I think that says more about Katie and his experiences that I think people playing with LeBron. Well I also think every tip if you really go look at every player on this level in history. Don't look at the young guys on the teams they played on I don't know did they really develop the way that they could have of those guys were around I think that kind of comes with the territory. When you're that great. And you're going to be bald dominant the weight to these guys have to be because they're that good yeah. Everybody on the rush is gonna sacrifice a little bit and you know what they call teams that have what young guys out there playing it lottery teams. We you don't have a guy like that on your team yet they're growing individually but ultimately. These guys do they have to do to try to win and everybody passed the check themselves a little bit when you play with guys that good it just it just. The way it is so to me is not a revelation. That it's it's not the easiest thing in the world necessarily to play with somebody superstar. But we get why they are the way they are they're trying to win because ultimately they're the guys they get ripped the ended their careers if they haven't done that. Speaker did go superstars Russell Westbrook the thunder they're now sixteen and three at their own four star Paul George is ridiculous last night at 25 in the fourth quarter. You feel it place it taught pretty entered our nuggets thundering clippers Amy you start to feel like listen I know it's not you're so far the rockets spurs mean the thunder are the best contender for the wars in the last. What's there what last business out crazy because the system we night's game in Brooklyn is not a very return and that's a but I watched good portion of that game through first recorders and of saying you know what. This is lot of thunder drive me crazy because you start to buy in. Now you get Brooklyn on the road right and a team that's really thinks they can contend that it's got to be do you throat if you got Brooklyn bright bright. And got down twenty in the third quarter and I'm going here ago and it thunder they're just gonna check it up to a one of those nights one of 82 we just did have a tonight. Of what we've seen from the thunder. Maybe even in some ways. Better than the version that the end with Durant and Westbrook because. The last 45 minutes of games when those two guys are together so much they shot themselves in the foot with horrible decision making. And forced shots trying to be heroes. Maybe now this team can figure some things that I love the fact that they Drupal played to win the game that didn't really evolved Russell Westbrook taking a shot. I think I might be a step forward. For them as organizationally and and and Paul George came through for them so I was impressed that they dug deep because I thought they one point look like they were just mailing it in the as if hey we just did have a tonight and that's not what championship caliber teams do so you you you got to typical run road lastly if you wanna be taken seriously and they did it. What's going on with Kyle Lowry. And the Toronto Raptors let's say or jury okay did the interview and Kyle Lowry did basically said this to Rachel Nichols as part of our all access. How would you describe your relationship with this idea and it this is just further best operations. The news I go where you might just. The answer that leaves a lot of room for interpretation he does his job I don't buy that right. But the objective that three guests Tuscaloosa. Warm Fuzzy is there no no this all of course because he traded demarche to regular season and got quite Leonard and returned. Now I thought. It's are you Jerry was also one you say you were probably LeBron handle the stuff about Kevin Durant. Messiah also took very much the high road here. Kind Larry is always mad at me yeah hi I thought Fatah and everything there is no is mad at me you know I but. You know I know I understand why apple always DeMar you know like there's two things in this business that are tough you know I'm. Garrett Tracy was part of one when a player leaves me you know let them a co Y elapsed you know and then when a player gets straight ahead. So that those two things are tough find in opposition in the house do we have to do them and sounds. We have to deal with the money that's raised my -- I've. It's it's tough to communicate with players in that manner you know you got to come BK we dates and and I can go on sale we are going to get Treo you don't get treated and all of that you know iron. Honestly we had done something in the definition of insanity is doing something over and over again you guys who have been under a jump talking about us the same thing yeah enough. Am so we have to change we have to be better really have to be better we have to win the game is all about winning on treating people I think the right win and honestly. I don't know if there is there I've got those tomorrow you know like and do what I did wrong was trade him. Yes doesn't that's what I did wrong defeats are wrong. It's not wrong he did the right thing for the franchise this Kyle need to get over. Yes and particularly when you he basically right now is on a team that has the best chance he's ever had correct the finals right. I give Kyle credit the late he he may feel that way it absolutely hasn't affected his effort. He goes out there every night lays it on the line to die guy competes. On and he doesn't have to have a great relationship. With midyear he doesn't have to and he is honest about that but I do think at this point win when your team has been this good and coli Leonard. Isn't this good. I think if you're Kyle Lowry you probably should be very grateful that your gonna have an opportunity. On your best opportunity to get to the NBA finals and win a ring. And that's when every player dreams about. I get the fact like you said like or respect the fact he's honest he's not gonna be two faced about. But I would deal with simple aside personal grievances he's never played better like in all the congress is article why and the court. He's leading the league in assists is a great core around each we appreciate it. Other opportunity and the fact he's playing great. I completely agree and I will say this like Kyle Lowry didn't you know asked that question to be asked to rate of so so so he you know he can fill every once the field he's probably just got nothing filed away right Ari. I do my job you do yours I don't have to like you're not too happy with what you've done. He got asked the question and rather than be a phony right and say things he does a genuinely believe in and have a zones in your stomach turned as he walks with an editor you think your methods. That was the only that's that's not real. He answered the question is Odyssey as he could and let you know clearly how he feels. But it hasn't affected his performance so. Sometimes guys put tough positions to she probably has all the talk about that at all but he got asked. And he was honest to god ducked the question did not duck it he was honest about it but I think overall saying is you would think maybe was sort of softened a little bit that stand still right because of the product that he has now. And it's not just it's not just one letter. It's some of those other guys that they've gone out and added. There have turned into incredibly valuable pieces for this team. And again during the deepest team in the NBA certainly the most complete team in the east and there's a gap right now between them and everybody else and I felt this way about to try to rappers in the past the matter how many games you win regular season right midst envision them in the finals where you do see this team maybe get there. It looked it was LeBron tell all those years Reich as he when they're doing everyone I know that kills you sought to Marge a regular season I do think is a pretty funny it is but at the end of the day what do we always say winning is the ultimate deodorant is still seems like there's instinctive need to be covered up that they are not getting by Christmas exclusively with Kyle because they traded to mark. Legs is the best preacher guy always good to have you. And the window. It's not expect too much there's only one person out there that expect him way too much part of this guy surely we know that is predicted. His father. Did you know eighty he can design and install a Smart home just for your on new Smart home at your service customized for your lifestyle. ADT's automation even unlock the front door for frank who arrive at your place early for the game while you're still out get snacks. Now that's what I call game day service. It's all controlled from the ADT apt or the sound of your voice and backed by 24 sevenths protection visit ATP dot com slash marked to learn more about how 3-D T can help keep your home safe and Smart. We are delighted now to be joined. By Bradley job define rookie outside linebacker for the Denver Broncos umbrella thanks for being let us off first and foremost obviously a really tough loss to the team yesterday. With Emanuel Sanders professional chain movers we like to call on going down with the Achilles and how how difficult was that when you heard the news that he's done for the year. I don't include local screwed up like commences. You always bring him to solicited always brings the pass in every game he loves the game in the gym Williams these leaders and his favorite is Rivera. As never saw him but only got guys like chromosome and design Helms's. Yeah the future's bright so wrong. Does erode the supposed support is much we care and then build the majestic from a grim I may be blazers this place. Bally you have an unbelievable season man five sacks is like needy in the final four games Sebastien bon curse most sacks by a rookie in NFL history how have you been so productive right out of the gate. Also licenses have been. A great team is around having a gala ball on our side having guys like. There are rules are cursed repairs. Doesn't moves is doing their thing and we all have to lay as the president rest you know we all. A home that don't say it pays a lot lately and this has been helping on a whole team room. Well it certainly has as we said you have ten Von Miller has twelve and a half right now. The two of you combined for 22 and a half I think the Broncos record. When you had gone into markets where their side to side was 24 and one season have you guys not only talked recreate UN the event individual record that you might be chasing. Have you involved talked about seeing if we can get that number together. You have to assume because these we have Doug you're doing what is all the tough. Then on they always talk were having that's what the floor and I'll live moment why don't talk a silly little Bloomberg data stuff like Deborah and there have been without Jason numbers right now we're just charts is way is it. On women it's imminent that totally didn't. It's one in four plus Saxon men will be had would have. Well listen you want three year old obviously now you face emirate Cisco without Emanuel Sanders but how. How much has bunt meant to you mentored you mean you had a big reputation. Coming out of North Carolina State a lot of people thought you might end up in Cleveland instead of knicks to win the second round. How beneficial and what and how much has he helped you Von Miller in becoming the player you are right now. Also I don't know a lot of changes are God's own museum door that they do in the coming out of Jeff who's aggressive I would dump truck forgot how to model my game after. An ounce of beer and then witness it in practice and media users stuff like there's pretty cool he's been very health vault until they ought to do different things that I needed. Arms just overall great arms I'm certainly learnt from. He mentioned the fact you that is just talking about a job right now the Broncos linebacker on goal when there is in radio. And he has been news what is the biggest challenge in golf and college approach you made it seems seamless to whether it's. Often feel there on the field with so that you didn't realize would be challenged you had to overcome. Us us a lot of different phase those who want they're in period after the public Karl will be. They're just different schemes and stuff followed career college tells of a fourth or users gore suitors though wouldn't it now. Home below are some our records government coverages different phase at first it was like a big shock to me that they really know. Or how to really handle live buffalo group overload of the year I've been having great coach great teammates held me out. Romans is I mean so bloggers play faster they're not big business there wasn't producers. Bradley job whether it's fine outstanding rookie for the Denver Broncos and you're having an amazing season there's no question about it. However you could make an argument you may not even be the best rookie on your own team. With what Philip Lindsay has done the undrafted running back who has just I think twelve yards barred say Kwon Barkley for the rookie lead in rushing yards one what has he done that a surprise you so far this season he's been absolutely incredible. Young ladies who did occur well. You know two days into it carefully studied to see though the fired on them and see how he operated but you never I never expected there to see him do. Home amid out. Massa is not a great player odds they straightened up a bus onto the scene like you do on decide as soon as we got a bears my locker is right there's there's so we always. Compared to stress the stuff talking to accused other than that pushes others to be investors so a guy like films privacy audits is just there's this from what is Susan far. So so is there a lot of give and take with you guys like I'm gonna be the rookie of the year no I'm gonna be the rookie did you guys talk about that at all. Yeah for so we're men if we if we get to the two forwards are don't know if you will marry Israel why he's better than you do is look okay and all the time whether. On the stove stove that's one of the boy's mom orders are reform. You know the Broncos overall Crowley six and six at three game winning Sri you know what was that the biggest challenge the eyebrow the guys had to overcome. And why do you feel like now your team is Roland. Thought the biggest house we had over Carl was. In those type games who who who wouldn't make the plays to give us over your home enough alike won't play -- armed charges. Home that they started his little bird and winner pseudo got over their homes and Medicare don't who still is material or. But almost the largest ever to observe those. So to lock in to a zillion of those games and even photos though there's micro modem won't play as a put it could have been in the second court player who had your first quarter so. Is minimizing those mistakes early and later or in the game disasters in our store. And that certainly has been the case the last few games including the way you got up and just took it to Cincinnati a Bradley job as weather so we had nick on your cousin. Earlier this year and we ask this question toward askew as well. How much back and forth is there between you and nick about what you're doing what he's doing with the Cleveland Browns. I was young writer for the low is low lows as causes in this family members of stove but. Unknown when we played Joe's goal is it almost to talk so we're still ahead remiss in a moment to you have women are no movies hello ladies here who might talk wrestle them before. Is there another job coming down the pike pipeline that we need to be prepared for at this point. I got a couple 'cause there's there's grown up right now I mean given the full ball with. All right Dodgers need a brother mid America and the rim or. Yeah and and that's working out to say you know. That that's all worn out as it's done very well and has been a great season for you so far. How much do you think about chasing that rookie record of Javon curse fourteen and happen 1999. Odds are not bitter words is because photos right now one home only get off course of vogue what I came here to do the next best win games. And are you a dollar bar on the he always tells me. Keep your head down a keyword and don't worry about numbers are. There's numbers is just social extremism do. What ever recorded his roots got their bit and don't disclose what they're just chase in the resort. Love you listen to somebody had listened among Super Bowl MVP and then hit it right it's not talk about finding. Free agency right after became the Super Bowl MVP of Super Bowl victory he's your guy don't listen to them hey Bradley we appreciate being aware this vessel luck this weekend against every Cisco. This sort of burden our present garden. The best of go what can we go podcast. You can listen or subscribe on ESP NF apple podcast boy. Just ask your smarts they could play goal. 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