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Jan 8, 2019|

The guys talk about Clemson beating Alabama in the National Championship with the help of Mike Golic Jr. and Jason Fitz before going through "Tweet It or Delete It" and more.

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You're next here cat now has assured gag with this four clips here Kenseth just download the app check in its fourth clips and choose your silence then head out no appointment needed to. Just download the app check in and don't forget appeared trip sport clips you choose because we. We kept the weight. This is the best of go can we go podcasts. This Tuesday morning. Welcome red gold doing go ESPN radio ESPN two presented by progress been church cell phone guest join us on the shell Pennzoil performance line. My goal a tray we go here with you either tiger yes that's half not just the theme from rocky three. But the theme in college football as Clemson absolutely obliterates. Alabama scoring thirty unanswered points Mike. As they just take down. Groups in time in other. There's obviously going to be a lot to breakdown in this game an incredible defensive performance by climbs in the if you wanna guerra. And MVP award insurance category term rewards for he may want a break got up and a five pieces for an alignment problem which I'm sure. My son who will talk to him and Jason fits in a bit out at Santa Clara is gonna love to talk about I mean. So there there's going to be tons of numbers and thing to look at into this game. But in watching one team in my life. Up close and personal. Get ready for a game like this in 2012 when Michael. The preparation. For that. And knowing what goes into it and seeing these two teams prepare for this to teams. Do do reiterated differ where the Notre Dame did that year because. They had been their before right so you're used to the bright lights you're used to the big moment so nothing. Nothing should surprise you so we were looking for that fight where they're standing in the middle ring and their dislike it at each other and each other could take it. And how they answer back up. An amazing read off. Clemson was that knocked down to yeah get men knocked out and Alabama while getting up was staggering while I got to take gobbled up. Get some yards out there you know the old bend but don't break that come to dead but man Clemson was. All over them and it just kind of is one of those individuals could she just kind of swelled just kind of kept going. They said we're giving her momentum they've had success against Alabama wars or even one they lost to warmth. I in the title game the one the of the three times they've played in the title game. And end but they. They learned to just stay after them stay on them you always expect your waiting for bam to come back and they would gain yards against the reds aren't climbs in which step up against so. From a for me intangible standpoint to start there what this team was able to do was incredible they they took the bully on the block even though. I'm doing right there with them yep you know what but make no mistake Alabama was a bully on the block where they say did you Dugard lived a bully platoon in the model quantum write them off your bloody his nose. It's it's dry growers like cookies believe he's human. And then you take him down from that's exactly who comes in dead. I mean it was sixteen to fourteen Alabama now and then they scored thirty unanswered and the only thing I can bank governors and escalated quickly yes it did mean it really garner and for us I mean I'd. It was a group thirty unanswered points. Just so people understand it makes havens twelve years at Alabama the most they never lost to lost bite anybody was fourteen. They lost by 28. I mean watching the beginning of that game I I sell so stupid now but I see Trevor Owens accompany a three and out of that throughout our half the last. I've had three plays later this happened. Pistol formation out talked about lol what. Parents right behind him three receivers to the left the live from the left Heathrow today. It's okay. Would you. So freedom of Alabama's first drive less than three plays as well just in a little pot. I would pick six I'm gonna tell you there's no the going is very is a reason. Brent venables is the highest paid defensive coordinator in the game images can need to keep throwing money at him now because of what he does. There was so much talk of of two are now as we as we dive into the game a bit torture turnovers in the game where our talk about the turnover battle. And Alabama normally wins the turnover battle and wait for you to make a mistake in the capitalize on. Return hours in this game turned into fourteen points for Clemson not a one by 28 I get it. But certainly could be a difference in the game if they don't get those and one on the first drive. That was the animals that was the defense we always talk about with quarterbacks who took a while all ahead a fantastic. Year what do you talk about our quarterback. Preached every. And post post heparin that second have to step what is happening and act on both touched both interceptions. That's her to got fooled that were bright and got the best of on that pick six you write it off a defender of where where he restored the ball. To a had no idea that that defender was going to be there he thought he was going to be somewhere lies and breaks in front of the outcast for the score. And that was or is it turn on Mullen I believe got the other interception. Was the same thing. After the say he had a priest every after stepping tries to go deep do his guy they get all the conference and rolled my guy can haven't. Mullen the off Stevie. He's not doesn't cover the guy that tour thinks he's going to cover or stay in the area he thinks she's gorgeous day. And he breaks deep by that ball completely fooling to a tour no bowl especially on the first one you're on both or. They were on him he also didn't pick up a blitz our early on in the game as well a lefty coming from it there right right. But the side he's looking doesn't pick it up a great disguised blitz by venables and there was a great job and then. That defense just kept George David big bend but don't break. I'm but don't break. But that defense of line. Listen they earned their stripes you know they did earn their side out one of their best players that deal lying and that old line for climbs and they they got it going on they did it not a lot of sacks in his game but the pressures seven tackles for losses they were live and on the other side of the line. Four Alabama it was just a fantastic job of what they re able to do while Alabama's Eli and led by. We talk about the NFL beeline for crimes in the best Eli Eminem in the field. Was on Alabama's Greg. And one where Williams. And they didn't get any sacks they weren't getting the pressure that everybody thought they were gonna get. So that's why say Bo were gonna talk a lot about the true fresher in the lower to true freshman and robots. Out their real ride receiver Higgins a wide receiver. But those two lines offense and defensive line were absolute money for clump them. And the thing is Mike if you look at the numbers you say yourself Alabama had 37 rushing attempts for almost a 150 yards average four yards a pop. Against that deal and they all take that out like Alabama's chances. It didn't matter because the explosive plays are where they're four for clubs and all my army this thing started Alley and a B sixty to 58 now you're all absolutely zap stories are important for the first quarter it was insane. But the thing that really look that good difference in this game not only was that do you want for clubs in but. The big explosive plays are there for the tigers and they just work their program. Don't know they they absorb weren't weren't there for bam Clinton hit him on the outside Saban talked a lot about how they like to cover the middle of the field. And force you to court of the outside. And basically said you know what he said going into the game I had concerns about their receivers in RG beast and on the outside on those fade balls that Sabin talked about the 5050 balls with Saban talked about Clemson won. I'm warm and mostly where they freshman. And again. True freshman yes to a true four true freshman in Lawrence and Ross. That battery got to be there for again two more years not three or more your sort of we keep hearing they're gonna in three more championships charmer art. It could only be because he'll be the number one pick. In a couple years and I tell you what. Agent wisdom coming to play. When that go before the game the college game day crew theirs Lee Corso. Recourse so's been around this game for decades and decades everybody's break everything down and listen what he said it was in reinventing the wheel but he pointed to something that said. This he said the absolute positive key to the game. There's going to be red zone what do you do in the red zone and you put the ball in the end zone or you're trying feel roles in the red zone. Amber was our four times one touchdown one billion dude that they feel little ball that. Claims there was there six times. Four touchdown. I mean nail on the head and Lee Corso pick him out on off. Exactly right and after the game Davos when he said exactly what we've been talking about they knew they had to make the big plays and make them count. We do little but we never rode with punch back you know this guy this group had the tiger tonight Amanda and listen Alabama. This this is the most amazing champion. After the University of Alabama and what they've done it crusade. If our guys to come out here tonight. They perform like they did. You know it's just us that we had the basic plan with a great read and I've felt like we had the better to. And I felt like that if we can get a couple of breaks we kid we kid we could pull away and the couple turnovers in the big plays a senate committee yesterday you guys big plays and turnovers you win those two things human it says the time and and now we wanted it a big way tonight. They certainly did they got the big plays they got the turnovers and and at this point. Clemson is to Alabama with the giants are of the patriots jets super blogger Nick Saban is six and our national James games. Or do wobbled one to date to one and two disease you beat him twice but there. Clemson is the only team that's taken down the right haven. National championship game it's absolutely unbelievable Gordon we go remind you. But Allstate knows the football season is mayhem that's why the reminding fans that have made and control on game day. Imagine what can happen the rest of the week so get better protected with all state so it was an amazing game for us to watch. I have to believe it was an amazing sight to see in person. And we have a couple of guys have been doing. Joseph does work very happy days for us. And they got up once again early for us a let's send it out to leave by stadium Santa Clara where Jason fits in Michael junior where their for the national championship game fellows. That was something. I mean gentlemen it was stunning. I at some point I'm gonna say this repeatedly. I could not have been more wrong about this game but like what really stunned me it was just. The fact that and I didn't seem ready sport not just to gain and didn't seem ready. For the hit and we were talking to guys on the side I'm walking around. During the game is that the comic coming repeatedly is it. Their eyes were glazed over they were there were quiet they were sitting there with this sort of stunned of what just happened moment mean to the point that guys are making you can you can punch a bully first. But you gotta be able to back it up they didn't just punch the bully first. They've repeatedly possibly. Ever didn't seem ready why I think that's it though. It is. Usually ready for the counterpunch and dimension and off the top you expect this to be sort of one of those rocky fights were just in the middle and everyone's arms are down to beat each other about the face and neck but the problem was. Alabama had that quicksand feeling that usually is reserved for teams that are on the stage for the first time teams that are not as well versed in what you do. In these games and how you adjust and that was the strangest part going in the first half when we see Alabama herb Alberto about 4550 seconds left. And three timeouts burn one of those timeout and then decide we're gonna run the clock gotten in just didn't halftime locker room and figure it out. You can European drop that was a group going in the locker room. That didn't have a lot of answers going in the when they came back out. Quickly found a big and have the answers still at that point in the game so the emotional roller coaster never in favor of Alabama for a second. During the body of the most important parts of his game. And it was uncharacteristic and made it at some point you respect Alabama and we expect it to me and Trey made the point of sixteen to fourteen at one point and I think I kept looking at it saying well at some point Alabama's gonna just ticketing here. It's all gonna make sense and this is gonna become a game and every time there was the opportunity to get back in the game. Kudos to clintons and the top of mammals just gotten our own way and how I was watching a band a team that seemed uncharacteristically. They just they were falling apart. And every time that happened Clemson loses there and there was this energy to what the tigers were doing it and it was on matchup. The tigers are bigger team from the start they came out with an energy that wasn't being matched by the team and the other side of the ball from the you combine that with we talked about 20 going into the game we said if you look to help these he did last week. A played with that kind of ease import is there going to be in very good position. You talk about those reds on struggles a lot of them had to do with two what was often that area to a was largely less accurate. Then we had seen him in those spots we know he wasn't pressure much but when he was he became more ineffective. There when he was allowed to drop back there and that just seemed to jump off the page for me because. Russian was we kept looking up we kept seeing the total yardage numbers for Alabama still pacing Clemson and a lot of fails. Especially the rushing totals until the end of the game when Clemson was rushing to run out the clock. Alabama was dominating ball control in that area trying to limit those big plays. But as you're going to commit to that style will play during the course this game the way they seem to want to. You gotta you gotta make it happen when you get down in the red zone and between kicking miscues that forced them and you some really odd characteristic decision later on seeing Nick Saban do things like. Go for that fig field goal of that portion of the game seemed to indicate a level of panic that again it seems so out of character for who these guys are. As go to winged obviously Tre Mike back in Bristol Michael junior Jason fits out here in California. And you know you mentioned I think feel and we got talk about it right. Eight it surprised nobody I mean there was this moment of it's almost like if felt like they woke up in that game guerrillas so we have a kicking issues. Which made no sense we've gotten this far into the season. And suddenly not well we're just gonna we're just gonna start Jason points I mean I'm scratching my head because. There was nobody standing around it was like oh my god fake kick everybody's been around we say and that's where I can't believe that actually went off. You'd you'd you'd go for look you go up there are mistaken if you get a look there of what to which Alabama guy you usually called the fake off and kick the field goal. In that want when you're using your kicker is a lead blocker you've gotten to replace him and I am not totally comfortable with and it doesn't send a great message when you're on the sideline. As a kid on this team trying to find any reason to buyback and believe in this game at certain points there's so all of those the mistakes were Alabama. On the other side did mention this off the top. Clemson's offensive line was the single longest thing. I read going into this game we both picked Alabama in this game we both thought it was going to be by a pretty comfortable margin. And I said I thought Alabama important Williams and that defense of life who. We talk about the sex or Clemson defensive line Alabama no slouch on the other side of the lives of 4647. Sacked unit during the regular course of the season. And clubs and dolphins of life especially the interior or thought they were going to be mows vote vulnerable found a way to handle those guys found a way to give Trevor just enough time period they were physical enough to grind out a run game but most importantly it was pass protection were those guys gave him enough time. To go downfield and absolutely shredded Alabama secondary. Let's say that the thing that's uncomfortable to say at this point. Nick Saban got out coached I mean there's it's a better scheme for Clinton they were ready some of the things we didn't think they could get ready for. Munich they've had this look like a different Clemson team than even we saw an albums and obviously put down on hundred and not taking anything away from that but this was a different level. Of what we saw from Clemson demo wasn't rightful. Now that. Was the most stunning part is so many of the things I saw Notre Dame had success with and despite the finals war. There were some I thought Alabama. With the level of talent but they've gotten the level of coaching that we're used to burn position to exploit those even more. And we saw club since they know we we we're going to make the necessary adjustments and really. Guys just executed ME some of that was just purely. Blocking the guy in front of you and that still was the most impressive part of going away for me was clubs and up front really on both sides of the ball taking its Alabama and a way to I was not ready. For one of the fun facts from our stats and info guys Trevor Lawrence only under duress for 19%. Of his drop backs Monday. And was spectacular during that 90% so they didn't have a game plan that was going to be able to get to Trevor lords and even when they did. He beat him and it was a standup moment we couldn't have been more wrong. So where were. Again Jason fits in my court got to keep your studio don't ever sisco Mike let me ask you this sort and Jay should just mention that throw is gonna go you mentioned the 19%. That that the pressure on Trevor or six of thirty shoe drop backs Alabama came into that game. Averaging 48%. Of pressures on drop backs almost half the drop backs. They have had pressure on the quarterback in this game 18% so Mike from the old white porn and I think we're all listed on its content offensive line was it more scheme always used its. I'm out these guys were on their game tonight. I thought hers as those guys added you start early Alabama wasn't going out of their way. To give you a lot of the exotics or get guys up near the line is Herbert the way the Notre Dame did there was a lot of them rushing for there was a lot of them trying to get Quinn a Williams there. All world defensive tackle matched up on often sublime and I thought going into this game they had a decided advantage over. And guys just held up I mean church or rewards can move around enough to get the ball out of his hand quickened up but. I really just thought it was guys blowing up in performing at a level I hadn't seen on tape while. And as far as the fake field goal you Sabin said after the game basically it was you don't like one offense alive and it almost looked like he didn't realize the fate quasi because he didn't really. Block is guy that made the tackle but as you said since it didn't work it was a bad play. Don't we saw go forward on fourth down in his own 35 were you surprised they went that route if you're gonna have the fake I'm. Why would you just leave your offense on the field and go with holds eleven instead of the eleven from a few ogle team to add to try to make a fork down. Yeah always balancing the element of surprise that Hampshire trying to capture in those moments bought I just. I questioned that call in that moments. I was usually okay with foot on the gas and fourth down on some of those other spots. I get trying to get the element of surprise I just don't like the call on any level there's a lot. There's a thin line to between foot on the gas. And chasing points and I mean that would that's what it felt like at some point wit even with a fake and then after that. The number of 4000 pages and it felt like they weren't at any point just conceding to. Here's some points we can try to take that it was a weird vibes from me. The whole thing was bizarre mean we we started the show guys again well you don't three not for clubs and the start of the game that doesn't bode well. Yeah we were wrong. And it just got longer for better suited for lack of a better term. Our fellas Gil dozens gets labeled Joseph back. They're all coming back and and they're all coming. New warrants to Ross true freshman a true freshman a couple of the catches almost kinross had that 11 hander can't kill us catches so yeah they have that the look forward to a for a couple more years that's Italy's biggest difference in college basketball football basketball. You see all these guys for one and waved goodbye and you're like. You shoot. Two more years mechanical and you were her I thought it's incredible and and again the call of the year four games in. Are devils winning you know even as a freshman. This kid several Lawrence is the God's gonna take is what we need to go amazing good for him. Always good windows. Very late going might call it senior. These were cleared by. The two best teams in the country play play. This bill tonight is the first fifty. Were correct that in a moment gold going to brought you right straight talk wireless time for some straight talking get the same for GL TE coverage as a big wireless companies won't pay less was straight talk. Gritty issues for celebration dance saw a lot of those last night kick coverage on America's largest most dependable networks very talks. Oil Wal-Mart savings may very key terms and conditions at straight talk dot com gold going to ESPN radio. And ESPN two before you today at other team that was fifteen you know you. Joseph likely to resist and have to let them pass at halftime score was 3116. Clemson over. Alabama and might tweet basically was. Notre Dame gave up thirty to calm them for the entire game mamet gave up 31 and a half do they really go. Long asking for friend that. And then I didn't put. Just kidded and help people still well I've ever I don't run after four but not listen noted scored three against crimes then. Damages scored 1613 more to give up a lot or point two uttered it did say. Yup. There are very good prices doubled things historically we need to get you out here. Trevor Lloyd's is the first true freshman quarterback to in the national championships since I got you and I know very well -- and by the way there's a picture of him asked any ESPN down disappear behind the scenes understand there's a place where you of people cut all the pilots analysts -- screening right well there's a big one now in a new building but in the old building the old buildings old timer yes played real may have several hundred times here and there was there was a picture of him playing its oppressive name is Jim Mel Holloway one of the great names of all time. The names of the Oklahoma quarterbacks in the eighties under varies with our group. JC watts Julius Caesar a lot out. Who went on to become a congress what is most and watch some of those in this picture this is back brutal ordered you're running that option got all linemen are in the four or voice chances I muted but you're all right viewers the last true freshman. Quarterback to win a national championship then I brought this up in the break I said you know I'm pretty sure. Event Barry Switzer found one of his quarterbacks run that took blossom. He saw a kid break dancing up and said you need to be that guy exit exam exploded oil he said there's no way that's true that can't reach her at our door around. It is truly did not true David Charles Hobson Charles studies show. Guy yeah tell me Barry Switzer yup just walking along. Any CC can break dancing like listen. Great moves you're gonna be my quarterback not got a real social at all yet David. David tell and a car dealership we don't know which car dealership that was a radio artists. I still refused I was OK sometimes dreams committee may break it just just so you know things have changed a lot since the fifth the social me there always does a didn't used to be that way he was a break actually it's a great score rise and fall went to prison all the scans of it now motivational speaker but Charles Thompson was a break dance or draw water. And that's our became real wanna start or two dollar the last. True freshman to win a national champion back 1985 with a Oklahoma and then the one why we keep hearing. Be the first fifteen you know team in college football history that's not true it is the first fifteen you know team. Going back to the AP poll error would race back to 1936. Because there was another fifteen you know team. And that would and this is a pretty impressive team and the rest roaring back to 181897. Correct. Hand the Penn quakers Penn was coached by future hall of Famer George Woodruff the red and blue blue say they'd shut up well. Oh he and a welcome pulled. Instead here on the way to fifteen it all okay playing for tat playing tackle for then you may recognize his name. John outlay and correct yes reward is named after John Allen who transfer depend. From Kansas in order to study medicine is an all American tackle in 1897. And did what so many people doing their tackle. He switched to running back and actually are. It was an all American running back the following year and let's not forget Michael also on the team all American almost looks and you might Newman's TT head coach teach you hair very very final to play the guard back position draw are urged to back. Position lineup he was named an all American. All four of his years at Penn football god father Walter camp. Once said hair was the only player could've made all American at any position. So they were fifteen NL. 1897. Penn was by the way they ordered they were the Alabama of that era is correct because there was her third title in four years there were also all. Our number 11894. They were twelve and 01895. There were fourteen you know in 1897. They were 150. Led by John outlive him. And GT where Larry just just understand what I think late nineteenth century football well I go to the banquet there is no hi we are not big goose egg Gettysburg 57 and unedited Lehigh 58 to nothing. Virginia 42 nothing at Penn State 24 enough along well there you go along with eight other team does. Well all. Shout outs in a fifty did know years incredible elevation what happens TT there was absolutely no of course you guys don't is that so again make sure you add that line that that took Clinton's exceed the second college team Google fifteen you know the first. Since the eight people era dating back to 1930 song like my favorite part about this is the absolute utter disbelief. That you could find a quarterback as a break the answer well I mean it does seem there is a little talked Maryland that's all Barry Switzer got anybody that knows barrier being visa. That's how what that show was back then manage those those guys Ronald McDonald team all while while Julius Caesar watts to Mel Holloway by the way enshrined in a picture here on ESPN it's great to hear that name that's your history lesson for the day kids boys or girls you learn values and wealth throughout the day one of the coolest names and all of college football Jameel how you just roll off the tar. Kotsay wasn't great sports night last night no doubt about it and window. What are The Daily Show what kind. Technology truth brought to play Geico thank. This truth you will certainly send any text above to a supervisor to your supervisor. What's tournaments. Did she easily use that we felt we protect her and her. Now didn't it. 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So their football giants might hit solid gold in the draft last year even though there was some question whether or not they should've drafted a quarterback they did right second overall. They took sake one Barkley and look you can't say they messed it up none at all Libya's baker mayfield wasn't available. And we'll see was Sam Arnold Josh Rosen and Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson and we'll see what happens of them going for but say Kwon Barkley. Became only the third rookie NFL history to have 2000 yards from scrimmage the other two hall of Famer Eric Dickerson and probably going to be hall of Famer hydrogen breath so they did well but now. They are on the clock again and they might be in the market for quarterback with the Eli Manning turning 38. Going forward and they may have found a guy they may be target. Yeah join Haskins the quarterback trial say he made it officially declared for the NFL draft again Justin Herbert was. By most expert ranking the top quarterback coming out so I think there would have been a battle had he come out Ukrainian Dwyane gaskins of who actually would have been. Number one. Amazingly enough for might have been decided who you know bring shorts in the future which is ridiculous but I always all also you go back in filming you used to study and you watch. What they do there but Herbert went back to organ. Undoing Haskins comes out again for those guys underclassmen I think we have another week I believe is January 15 the redneck area where they have to declare. Whether they're coming out or not these guys can get evaluated by the NFL and decide. What they wanna do Haskins decides to come out. Obey the number one quarterback on the board. On number one quarterback and that not number one position of a number one quarterback next he's a 643220. Pounder next in line may be Daniel Jones acute from duke. Are you curious to see how quickly he Hillary your start there is a 65220. Pounder completion percentage. So it was I think a little under 60% this year 22 touchdowns in a way up from the year before fourteen touchdowns and fourteen touchdowns a year before that. As well argued I think seventeen touchdowns. Set and seven interceptions this year. I. Dwyane asking listen as I will always say it depends on the grade and no great quarterback skip magnify yes they do OK so. This is what it's gonna come and now you have the giants had six and Jacksonville with 71 through five don't need a quarterback I guess I guess depending on Oakland. If they're gonna stay with car or their car well at the John gruden says he's saying to them is probably don't that's the way it's gone to she'll rely Rory Cooper and look says already the is that the first place for a quarterback it's six with the giants or remember Jackson was seven and they need quarterbacks all. When they try and jump the giants to get going Haskins what if it stays that way. As as I said it comes down to the great if you're a first round pick a jury franchise quarterback gray picked it up quarterback. They knew that I think the giants take them. And then a one year they get their running back in the future and the action they get their quarterback of the future Eli Manning ends up being the bridge guy. And we go from there yet so I I I think. That's the way it could goal with Jacksonville would be the team that might have something to say about it if they think there's a high an upgrade for doing Haskins and they want Haskins is. Interest in me and look we had a more on issues and advisement and we all know when he knew he probably wasn't gonna win the Heisman Trophy he finished a distant third behind a Carla marine and a I to a dog by law. Well what's interesting about him is he's built for the NFL Mercedes-Benz vans are built for you the all new sprinter built. In the USA I mean as you said he's 63 to twenty. He threw for fifty touch today reds today fifty touchdown passes. The only question would be his first years a starter we saw Mitchell Drabinsky only have one year's a starter. North Carolina for the bears took him what sector overall and they moved up to get him in the 2017 draft them. He's progressed pretty well armed but the there was a list our key. And reverend I'm big in the same thing he had 897. Snaps I think yes and somebody put up a list of 12100 snaps or glass thrown out quarterbacks coming nearly. And one great it wasn't agree it was not a great there's not a list a list of a lot of it's a great success in the NFL was not and I don't want to pin that on him I don't need it but what you do every sample size there's a winner probably. Ten or so quarterbacks yeah right in that area that list and there was a one mile the barrier to what a star you know that is so what I would I saw that exact and I thought the exact same thing to underwear as it would on Hulu latest. To come out with few starts has been Mitchell too risky right thirteen starts he had at North Carolina before it was a second overall pick. By the bears and worse still kind of waiting on him to make that you know that next step right but he. Let's be honest in the offense he was kind of look like he's been the question mark yeah correct yup he's been an end. I'd still believe in him and think Matt Nagy worker than can get him better. But were still waiting on that development as he's going to be going into his third year next year and I do think it will own a positive direction but. That is always the question is are you getting enough snaps in college. Guys are going to be. Rarely do you see the guy go back who's gonna be a top ten pick and just Herbert may have been that as well you know we saw Peyton Manning who's number one overall goal back for his senior some guys. Will do that others are gonna say listen I gotta go. And art and for joint task and I think. I I considering tour is gonna be out next year. And now again and don't listen to ask inside shore. Got to be very confident is probably think I'm gonna be a better pro hunting I'm a better quarterback than two I think I'll be about a probe into he might beat we don't know that. But this year's quarterback outcrop. Is certainly weaker than last year's projected I think to be weaker than next year's so. You also have to think about positioning as well in doing gaskins. Being a very good position by talent is what make no mistake right I tell because I do love the way he throws the ball no doubt about that yet but but it is viewed this is not looking to be a great quarterback class. Yeah you look at Mel carvers breakdown of Haskins depth wise yet it's yeah. He says he checks and ATA easier does a great job on his deep routes steps up my pocket fires passes down the field. I started rough throws in the Big Ten championship game specifically. While he does Mel brings of the same they were talking right just started fourteen games the sample size again as Mitchell to rescue boat and I think Mitchell's trending in the right direction now. But again. It to me and we've we've sort of had discussions about this and what happened with the bears are you know they only scored fifteen points right they only scored thirteen point so again you can you can be upset with the defense. Of the bears and how they let nick pulls drive down and scored the go ahead touchdown with about a minute the plane that gamer 58 seconds or whatever. But that was only sixteen points that they gave up the offense did not come through for the Chicago Bears snapped. Exactly all that being said Duane Haskins is going to be the first quarterback taken in my opinion and you're gonna be by the giants. Or Jacksonville they jumped the giants together he going to be the guy and sits I think he is the clear cut favorite in the clear cut number one quarterback in this draft. Always wonder will there be a team that did what we saw on 2017 when both. Don't Houston Texans in the Kansas City Chiefs made huge jumps number they were both in the late teens are right twenties to jump up and get to Shawn Watson and hall of Famer Patrick multi trying to look at that team right now. After Jackson owed Detroit Denver. Denver might awful lot Cincinnati. May be Green Bay Miami at thirteen I everything it's possible no Atlanta Walt Washington I mean. A quarterback the elements like way out yeah this airline that's what they might because if it if there's one and we inhibit its training in this direction now who knows what happens that the come on to lock to go light it up this Brodeur kind of stuff. Or in May be even will Greer are as you said the kid at a duke right but right know if it's a clear cut. Going into the draft whether parents out that way is different but if the thought process going into the draft. That there is a clear. And decided number one quarterback available. You watch and how many teams will suddenly be very Anderson in moving up currency they get their exactly right now complain and I would say those surged giants Jacksonville Miami right off the bat you know would be three or if he has that great for almost seems that they were trying to endurance and he Denver what do John Elway say. Did you shake it tree and go find it no you can't so if you think you've got one. You watch a lot of commodity. Haskins could be by the time the draft comes around at the end of April. It was all sort of one big giant yellow molded very Justin were about why. Our goal doing good viewing history in radio ESPN news files on mr. Matt golden wings nor on Twitter admiral can going to work creative that way. Were presented by progressive insurance cell phone just join us on the shell Pennzoil performance line. Ought you ready I'm I'm really excited Americas segment it out here we're excited about that we have the greatest researchers liberal we had a one gaining Billy Bob I was proud is name as well as he did some it was words are always have fun with our researchers and basically. We're gonna get. Something you're said to us and were gonna decide is this something we'd like to tweet. Borrowers and now deleted votes Tweeter deleted here we go. Last night was the first time Alabama had no sacks and no first turn forced turnovers. Since 2011. Against Georgia southern. Game that they won by 24 points while snapping a streak of a 101 street games with at least a sack. Or two are so that's researcher David Gordon right basically here's the stat zero sacks zero turnovers first time since 2011 against Georgia southern. We wanna tweet that weren't going to. Or listen anything that goes to the negative Alabama I would talk we put. Because you don't see it that often as pressure goes all the way back to vote and eleven so we didn't count. I don't know big boy. Thank you done a guy next what's what's next David Doug Peterson for rove in his post season career. He can become the fourth head coach. Not only since the merger but ever to win each of his first five playoff games. Others are Brian Billick of the ravens'. Joseph Gibbs of the Redskins and Tom Flores of the raiders. When your first five playoff games. On that we. Don't let me ask why is all right but I mean I I'm not gonna tell a guy got a tweet that out. More coaches ever I'd you what was I wanna I wanna say deleted because a wanna hear her voice one more time. But I'm putting now and I like dad who little league's five and oh I like that nicely done David you're a role what's next. All right including this year there's been thirteen playoff teams since 2008. We go eight and though at home. In the regular season the patriots in this that it was a Patriot Act. Half of the previous twelve teams. Lost their first home playoff game that sees. Wow wow I liked that one you know I quit. I'm not alive I like gallon as well. Now I would say yeah. If in fact will go next level there that's just that's incredible and that's brought Dubai in my computer career dot edu training for a better life David your good I rural island was a no brainer at fell most can't I already trend going you tweet all his stuff anyway so when you ever gonna sing not I don't know what you're talking about. By the way the patriots have been on the losing side of that trend before and I. When he ten via when he an Oklahoman and they lost to Mark Sanchez and the jets. Wild dog doubling down on that when I like a great time nicely done for jets fans that one shining moment. Yet the ball is cute idea course. On a guy a great quarterback to wean Haskins. Is he's gone he's gone NFL draft he's currently number seven on milk Edgar junior's big board. He's expected to be a first Big Ten quarterback drafted in the first round since Kerry Collins. And state. Went fifth overall the Panthers in 1995. I love that's enemy in this summary obviously Big Ten supporters out there when they see him getting left out of the college football playoffs it's they were great conference and life. Member tombstone first round quarterbacks in middle right. I had not known that I I would not have known I they've got to you're not since nineteen. 95 it has can do is gonna go on the first rounds of this that he's gonna hold up I see between yeah. Yeah tweet off course sure it's hard. Not a big like that that's draft worthy that's football worthy and that's not I did not know that moment I guess I don't know and I do like really really like to go seven for eight and its leader delete those internal they don't sound like you know. York tells its overly Davis keeping track he's a statistician knows what he does that's who he is our big boy when he got forced now. James Harden Beers average. Over thirty points per game last season end this season he's averaging three more points per game and he did last. That would make him the first player to increase his scoring. Season after averaging thirty points since Alan Iverson. Who averaged thirty point seven points per game in 0405. And and bumped it up to 33 points regain health finalist six. High scoring in the NBA than impressed me as much anymore with the way it's going all the threes on the treatment no. I heard. Virtually. Well a bag on how cocky were down seven. Yeah I'm not really known well. Think now between now and then what if I told you know that Steve Nash actually won MVP both years net AI did really. And some you'll like no I mean like. Gates couldn't put bag and that's all right take PL a move on and I think you announced. Here are this big now now let's let's let's just met a soldier ready. David what is the next Tweeter deleted. Eyes about the duo down in Durham RJ yeah low beast that's the duel down in Durham. If you like generation. Is make that up. Is it to the charge is always are calling their kicker money badger like I've never heard that a form my wife. So have we never Giordano in Durham Durham do well we would term dual resist this. You like the idea that for the third with the dirt road the duel down in there in all honesty and we heard this a fourth not get on the horn trademark. Noble like cam reddish is their tears zone and we look like like real kind of thing. Love can't I eased. It is Durham duo. Mean that will let me there's about yeah I know like you search in the deep and I'm born trademarked the sinks stand by the way some what is if you if you wanted to what sums up the show. We just had a discussion. Yes I understand it starts with AD that. That's document sums up where we are as a sure a lot of our daily basis deliver this conversation that's probably did not the podcast was valley are got a right out real good at what he got. Doubted our. RJ Berra and Zion Williamson are scoring a combined 43 point one points per game this season. On pace to be the second most of any duke do you oh in the last twenty seasons. Only duo with more. Came back in 20052006. When JJ Redick and Shelden Williams both seniors. Combined for 45 point six. Well what you'll be just say all right. Thought I did not know that the only way I would think about tweeting this is the fact that they were both seniors and these guys are both freshman that's only. Thing that gives me pause to say I might. A non not to read. I don't think we're at the latest from. I'm not going between it and here's why I'm doing the doing well and not. Get. Only Mott a lot of them because he got we got in the Raleigh got cocky. Did we didn't bring him down posting history that came down it keeps sort of if if your worries before supper from that which between. Maybe. Maybe I do like the senior thing vs the fresh in an ideal either only do a little arts process as one neat stuff and your bags on Notre Dame alumni is gonna tweeted dukes and that that's probably through your bag or edits on the comment I hit it they're better now is the best question we we've we both agreed. That we like the Alabama stat yes. I like the Peterson said you do like I told they go and outs were both liked the Alabama stat. We both like the thirteen playoff teams to go 2008 and have them eight no I have a wasn't home. We ball flight V Kerry Collins was the last Big Ten quarterback and quarterback background so now we need inside of those three. Which one gets the gold medal which one of these three tweets that we are tweeting and not deleting again here they are. Alabama no sacks no forced turnover since 20111. Game against Georgia southern. Street about a 101 games at least one sack or external. Ordeal like. Thirteen playoff team since 2008 have gone ignored home including the issues patriots semen half of those have lost their first home playoff game. Or the fact that Ohio State's Dwyane Haskins is likely be the first Big Ten quarterback trapped in the first round since Kerry Collins in 1995. Which when you like the best. I mean the other ones the first two are good but the other some numbers you gotta go through yup Mary gotta you gotta navigate through some numbers we are simple people know we are. I think I'm gonna go what Dudley asked into the Ohio State in the Big Ten. The Big Ten stepped. I think a lithium that he did a first again the first first round big tech quarterback since 1990 (%expletive) that one of all I read made me go wild the most. I did not realize that just I'm glad you use that phrase has when when people were starting your cutting highlights of someone always said. If you're cutting highlights in seasoning in goes wow Mitchell that's what you put in the hotel and no matter what the scores are that's why out there while put it in the highlight now so there's a loud and wait. That's the winner David nicely done I just realized out there. By giving away. I mean it when I got to seven at any price and have announced that it has to my goal to get guys that tweet I just. I think there but. Though it was a little iffy for you guys are all I did like the Douglas and now you did that was our. I notice or your postseason career. It has gotten. As are you kind of kind of the way you're doing your job right now and are pretty good. Minutes we'll see how we do we have Mohamed Al I'd hold on I think I have. No no you're right there was loss in their nevermind I'm gonna say Jimmie Johnson to be on the list but they lost more all the doctor does yours or wall he's right wallet writing and research you post got a barrel politics and you produce trying to find out they are doing wrong. Wow I just I know Jimmie Johnson won like seven or Troy Aikman won a bunch but Steve Berlin started that game. Nine god do we not care less about what you're saying Steve bird like 1991 they lost to the lines of the silverdome. All right that's it Twitter deleted we may be equating that say what are critically next week I'm not sure. What's nodded and expect too much there's only one person out there that spectrum wait to watch how this guy surely we know that is within his father. All doing yours you this morning presented by progressive insurance strongest storms on the shell Pennzoil performance line. Follow us on his grim out golden wing go on Twitter at gold can we go 1800flowers.com. Twitter feed. I would also like to hear Hewitt 605065505. Your thoughts on the national championship game and what's surprised you the most. There is no surprise anymore in the Green Bay bright Green Bay Packers format will Florida be their next head coach sourced some sort of all right now first of eight up. Pretty amazing 825%. Of the league's gonna have a new head coach search when he nineteen as opposed of the one. But started when he eighteen which is why the NFL stands for not for long and yell. So met the floor is 39. Look but the thing obviously go looking for someone to pair with Aaron Rodgers well we do believe he's got 45 years off in his -- right which are we seeing. Drew Brees at approaching forty and Tom Brady over forty playing very well. And there's no reason to think that as always stays healthy. I bet Aaron Rodgers can't do the same thing so low floor is a guy that comes from a pretty good tree he's worked well previously was Sean McVeigh. With the rams and Kyle Shanahan with the Atlanta Falcons which means you work with Matt Ryan. We won the MVP award and he got Jerryd golf part of being helping your dog be did you or golf that was brain right. Over the last I wanted to call plays yes and that's why he left go to Tennessee to Sean McVeigh is absolutely calling plays for the rams. So is this the right move wall here is our NFL football analyst in college football analyst actually general koskie who thinks this is a home run. He's an incredibly creative coach you very cutting edge offensively. He's gonna know exactly how he wants to attack defense is. We got to remember like he comes from a Gary Kubiak. Kyle Shanahan Sean McVeigh coaching trees of these guys are guidance very well he quit the coach quarterbacks that thing that I love the bottom the most. He's real different. He's got a challenge Aaron Rodgers we've got that narrative around Rodgers right now that he's a little difficult to code incredibly bright. Now we'll floor will not back down he will coach the heck out of there Rogers pushed him to be. That daily great that he wants to be the back end of his career he's going to be welcome. Don't forget like they're near her first Sean McVeigh with the rams was he was a year away. This is the same kind of story we have a floor might be a year away. But the Packers are making decision let's get him before somebody else does I love the fit for him an air talkers. I listen to me will find out I have no idea now demos with Matt a couple of times you are so he knows there and sold. Yet his relationship exactly. I mean as far as he could work well or quarter usually talk like that whether young or is Aaron Rodgers were talking about it's not like Matt the floor cigars okay. We got a project we need to get going to quarterback here. You know that that's not the situation in green being angry that you have a hall of fame quarterback it's how can you access heightens. The quarterback juice. Girls are all in the air to work well with the quarterback do not going there to develop the quarterback OK that Richard not going to do so. And I'll say this at not just Matt Le floor any guy who's never been a head coach and as a coordinator. Have no idea. It goes some of the best coordinators became head coaches and it didn't work out. The best. Get a job as head coach because that's the next step. But then you have no idea. We've tried the we're gonna carry you with a young quarterback to get along with a quarterback it's worked in some cases Sean McVeigh it's not worked in other cases Dirk Carter. In Tampa Bay street you just you don't know so we get all try and say we'd like what he does we know is kind of a play action guy but they have no running game in Green Bay so. Gonna have to try they were 24 in the league so. They have to pry Tor or prioritize that again accessories around and hall of fame quarterback. And yeah I have no idea we we can sit here and say it was indoor Supreme Court rise amid this guy started bad news. All the water Saginaw Valley State. In 2003. Which by the way I think is where Matt Jude on the kid from of the ravens have played solo was a it was a senate Robin was then went to central Michigan and then in northern Michigan and then to. Actually in 2007 he was the actually offensive coordinator well. Apple out of gene tied into the bears that's exactly before he jumped into the NFL with the Texans as a quality control coach senate quarterback coach of Washington anyway back to college in Notre Dame. In June of 2014 as a quarterback who coached before he started to make that run so. Listen I've no idea where we can talk about. All his upside in cutting edge you want to do this and I doubt it but this is a different animal you're not a young coach going with a young quarterback you're a young coach going where they. While hall of fame quarterback and you need to fix everything around that. Here's what I will save one thing I like what what I heard from general wants needs and he'll challenge Aaron Rodgers every day. What do we say this offseason and training camp where Aaron Rodgers was working with the young receivers in and how it was ticked off and how they were running some right routes. Well Aaron Rodgers is out there to challenge those young receivers maybe it's great that you have a guy who's not afraid to say there aren't they your great everything we can be better at this we can be better at the back so that might work. Outlook will find out just remember Josh McDaniels was not what a commodity. I'm I'm not downplaying and I'm just saying we don't we don't know had no idea as the zen bluster likes to say we'll see. It makes me wanna vomit and then punch you square in the face anyway yeah. Oh he saw c.'s today. Let us bring in ten time Pro Bowl tackle. In the NFL and current hall of fame college football player on Wisconsin and soon to be pro football ever. Joseph Thomas joining us on the show opens a performance line. Taking synthetic motor oil performance to a whole new level make the switch depends on synthetics and I Joseph first and foremost congratulations. Where were you when you heard the news and what did you think them. Well thank you guys I appreciate having me on I'm enormously humbled just looking over that list that they announced yesterday in some of those names is really pretty awesome to be in their company you look at the Troy Pall mall the rocket is regulatory hole. London Fletcher some of the all time great in the media be associated with those guys forever use enormously special and your question. I actually got to block a couple weeks ago from our athletic director or Scott Barry Alvarez was my coach. End has a lot of people know he's very involved in college football and all things college sports so he gave me a little bit of that up so yesterday welcome surprise but it was on the finally be able to let the count on the bag yesterday. And once you're Indy pro football fame I'm sure viewers have to be if not we're gonna have to borrow them. We'll do trifecta all of your high school then cut the Roanoke College in and the NFL would be all three that watcher in the pro football for him. Yeah yeah it was pretty cool I got inducted and in my high school all of them probably about seven or eight years ago which was really special so the dominoes have been falling and that pretty steady every guy. Well I'm just so happy now czar cutting out here you know we're just aren't that they do about all this great success talk your way. Congratulations. Now we are yeah its cool thing we actually do mean to his great okay. Oh let's get on to the next thing which is your next hole fame when you're in the pro football fame. Listen what do you make of what the Eagles are doing with nick pulls obviously Carson once is still going to be the quarterback of the future. But he continues to do things when it matters most late in that game at Soldier Field drive in the Eagles down for the game winning touchdown with under a minute to play. There is something special that is happening would this guy with this team. I know I hate to be together that I told you so put a few weeks to go on the show everybody was calm and Eagles out instead of over oh not go out my friends think he giggle they just seem like so much better. When their backs against the wall to I think the make a book that he amendment will play great no doubt but it just seems like we're mirror the underdog they embraced that role better than anybody that we seen in recent memory and the all you put in there and all the sudden this year's rolling again. Certainly one of the few you do not want to be in the NFL playoffs yeah. The other teams everybody said you want no part of America if they make it into out of class they obviously did and then got a victory was the Indianapolis COLT if it it's such a non sexy. Positioned the offensive line and then you go to guard probably you know well as talk about the tackles in the senate we never talk about a guard. All a couple of guys and I'll I'll boast from Notre Dame have made us talk about guards when Jack Martin got the league a few years ago and now what Nelson both of them first team. Not only pro ball we're all pros. This year talk about that talk about when a guy can come in like dad and Cha kind of changed the attitude of an offensive line. Right at the office of Lyman you're only one of five guys but you you're you've got the opportunity when you play with that nasty aggressive finishing style. To really change the mentality of all the guys around you and offensive line is so much about technique and attitude and how are you prepared so you bring in a guy like. Melton and he comes out and play and a novel from his first game he really the own redundant iiroc sublime and when you're off the line that bullying people and push him around that really. Is a great way to get that offense moving and go profits were Andrew Luck guys and hit upon throughout his career. All the sudden he's got a clean pocket he can throw the ball on the field. It just built competence and a whole lot that's. It certainly does it was an interesting weekend Joseph is Joseph thomas' with the soon to be I don't know what five Arnold fans. Because the 26 seeds moved on the fifth seed moved on and three of the four road teams lost and I think sometimes a wildcard we can we all get caught up with recent C bias like oh look we saw what the great thing the colts were able to do against the Houston Texans. Or we saw with the chargers were able to do. Against the ravens and then we get to the divisional weekend which I think is my favorite weekend. In in all of sports has yet to games on each day Saturday and Sunday. But there's a reason the saints rams the chiefs and the patriots didn't play in wildcard weekend they earned the by. So are you expecting the same kind of results from a road teams that we saw wild card weekend forty they will see things more hold true reform. Well I think it'll be a little bit more troops form I think we talked about the two best teams in each conference planned this week and their media I think they'll probably win three out of those four games when I look at him I think maybe only our side in my mind will be the chargers over the digits I just love this chargers team while doing a planeload Phil rivers. I know it's tough for them to do another cross country flight to go into New England but later planet the team the way and these limits got those guys plan. Special teams offense defense the way that they are human people up on defense has been really fun to watch and to me they're the hottest team they're the team you don't want to play in the playoffs. What I situation growing George team that didn't make the playoffs have Pittsburgh Steelers we see all the talent there and quite honestly the underachieving going on and the issue is way beyond bell this year and now what's going now and Antonio Brown. So you know it's kind of easy on the outside disable man this guy so talented they have to try and work it out amongst the players. You're a leader in the locker room for a lot of years and I know you don't know personally of this situation but. In your opinion how should this be handled shorter guys on the team be reaching out to Antonio Brown how how should players be dealing with this. Tricky situation you've got probably the best receiver in the NFL. Who's obviously unhappy the team is unhappy with them I mean they voted Eugene Smith Schuster the MVP when maybe that was kind of his Dick a meal and Antonio Brown died so. Clearly there's there's a lot of issues going on but you hope there's some. Guide them out locker room but really feel like they're friends with Antonio that get through to him that maybe yes and I missed out from the she's in our region about him you try to bring him back and look all you try to help them understand that this friend and somebody that you respect in that locker room that. They men were much better with you than we are without you we need you put as much. You need us because Europe Pittsburgh steeler you don't wanna be a guy they get traded in new. Thirty's that can really have a big detriment to your legacy because I think these guys that are great players that are all pros that are probably duck and all aim. We are thinking about legacy because that's really important to him and die did you start speaking of those words stay Antonio brown and I think got a good way to get through to him. Yeah but Joseph honestly after ten years in Cleveland what would you know about uncertainty in locker room issues I mean really. Well. Great that we really a drama free trade my thumb ligament has what you would allow there's not a lot of talk about. It's Ariza would be obviously you've been through your fair share but OK so as we're talking with Joseph you just a few minutes ago the one road team you like. To pull the upset as the chargers I think I. I might agree with you there. Just because if they can get after a mobile quarterback and Lamar Jackson with went and Grumman Bozo imagine what they can to a radio though it was a lot of dump officer Rex Burkhead in this game without giving away this is going to go. So that's the one you think you should be an upset alert of all the home teams that are playing this week in which one are you most sure of. Well I really think the rim they're gonna smoke the cowboys I think the cowboys you know they've run the football they play good defense that you can play out. When you're hot they can make you run in the playoff. What if they can't throw the football to me they're gonna have a hard time keeping up with the rams another gonna try to keep it possessions down gonna try to meet cute old school style football but the rams are gonna score points are gonna get the lead on the cowboys and I just don't have confidence that the cowboys. Have enough offensive firepower outside of seek earlier. To be able to hang. The rim to mean that the rams scored two touchdowns in the first half I don't know the cowboys can even scored a touchdown. That's actually fair oh I've I will say this is that that's that's death. But I do think the one thing that the rams have been bold reforms that running attack they don't if they can keep golfers coming off the field like give a puncher chance of that game but I understand where you're comfortable. They Joseph listen it's great to be with you again congratulations. On another hall of fame and that was before talking next week lemon thanks Joan and certain under. 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